betts falls over & other musings

[panthro]

In watching the replay of the last play, one could easily see that Betts fell over his own feet while he had a clear alley to the endzone. I replayed the clip over and over again watching from two different angles. At first, I thought he tripped over Yoder's feet as he blocked out to the left backfield. But when I looked at the replay from the opposite angle, Yoder had already cleared the path.

I'm sure Betts feels badly about the situation, but in that last play, the Redskins stopped the Redskins... much like we did throughout the second half of the game.

I love Jason as our QB and I believe he'll develop not only into a franchise QB but an All-Pro QB over the years to come. In the game yesterday, I was really disappointed with his play though. He seems too hesitant to throw the ball in many situations causing the timing to be way off. He's throwing the ball too high and behind his receivers on many plays as well. In fact, if his throw to Sellers on 2nd down of the final series had been on target, Sellers could have probably drivin in for the score himself. Instead, Jason's pass was behind and low and resulted in an incomplete pass.

Jason wasn't the only one making bad plays though. Portis just didn't seem like he had his head screwed on right on Sunday. He rarely drops a ball and the handoff is one of those fundamental things that should and must be done right.

Moss is still looking mostly like he's uncomfortable with Jason. Yes, he made a couple of great plays yesterday. He also continues to drop the ball when it hits him in the hands this season. The communication between Jason and him is awful at times. There was one series yesterday when Moss and Jason looked liked they were running plays from two different playbooks resulting in two consecutive incomplete passes.

I'm looking forward to seeing corrections made and watching us pummel the Lions (I hope) in person in two weeks. Hail!

[hogs86]

Can someone please post the video of the last few plays ??

[PennSkinsFan]

The problem with this game was coaching, period. Bad calls, coaching to not lose instead of coaching to win and when it comes down to these close games at the end, I must say, I completely lack confidence in Gregg Williams. He allows the teams to walk down in prevent defensive crap that puts these defenses in positions we dont need to be in. Landry saved the day last week. BUT, take a look at how they got down there in the first place. Then this week, we play the crappy prevent defense again and again while the Giants take advantage after advantage.

You all may have burgundy color glasses on when it comes to Gibbs and GW, but mine are clearly off now and I am judging these coahces as if they were any other staff, and folks, the play calling and approach of the secodn half yesterday was just down right horrendous.

[skins74]

Originally Posted by PennSkinsFan

The problem with this game was coaching, period. Bad calls, coaching to not lose instead of coaching to win and when it comes down to these close games at the end, I must say, I completely lack confidence in Gregg Williams. He allows the teams to walk down in prevent defensive crap that puts these defenses in positions we dont need to be in. Landry saved the day last week. BUT, take a look at how they got down there in the first place. Then this week, we play the crappy prevent defense again and again while the Giants take advantage after advantage.

You all may have burgundy color glasses on when it comes to Gibbs and GW, but mine are clearly off now and I am judging these coahces as if they were any other staff, and folks, the play calling and approach of the secodn half yesterday was just down right horrendous.

+1

[greatest2]

i agree with you, jason looked under average in the game. to his defense everytime he pulled the ball back and hesitated, it was because a giants guy jumped into his alley. i was at the game at saw it a bunch of times.

Jason needs to learn to not stare down his reciever, and trust his guy will be there (i.e. when looking right, and he notices cover 2, and cooley is going down the seem on the left side, he doesn't have to stare down cooley, he can use his eyes better to drive the safties away from the play)

also, he needs a little better time/field awareness. he could have slowed down on the 4th down play. he had 30 seconds (a regular play clock is 40). so he didn't have to run the same play. he could have gotten a call from the sidelines in a hurry up mode

that all being said, Jason has started 10 games. He is essentially a rookie still, though its his third year. The positives are all there, and we can see them, he just needs more time, that is all, more time to learn. And all this will come, including his accuracy (he completed almost 70 percent in his final year in college)

[Skaggsrules]

I might be the only person to think this, but I feel Campbell actually took some strides this game...he didn't throw a pick (the one that should have been picked was because his arm was hit, i'll give him the mulligan) his accuracy did improve (did have bad throws, but to me, less than the other two games) the hands of his receivers didn't improve though....I thought the gameplan would be easy, exploit the middle with a TE that can stretch the field (I think Cooley can do that, correct me if I'm wrong)...that has been the Giants main weakness, I got tired of seeing Romo throwing to Witten week 1 on what seemed to be the same play everytime...The giants weren't that bad stopping the run against Dallas or GB, but couldn't do anything against their passing game...I might be wrong, but when playing a defense, shouldn't you play towards their weaknesses and not their strengths...I could beat a dead horse all night, we all agree the game was poorly coached, but I think this team as a whole, talent wise can go far....The coaching just needs to take the handcuffs off/ let the kids play/whatever and just go for the jugular.

[Hr fan]

Originally Posted by Skaggsrules

I might be the only person to think this, but I feel Campbell actually took some strides this game...he didn't throw a pick (the one that should have been picked was because his arm was hit, i'll give him the mulligan) his accuracy did improve (did have bad throws, but to me, less than the other two games) the hands of his receivers didn't improve though....I thought the gameplan would be easy, exploit the middle with a TE that can stretch the field (I think Cooley can do that, correct me if I'm wrong)...that has been the Giants main weakness, I got tired of seeing Romo throwing to Witten week 1 on what seemed to be the same play everytime...The giants weren't that bad stopping the run against Dallas or GB, but couldn't do anything against their passing game...I might be wrong, but when playing a defense, shouldn't you play towards their weaknesses and not their strengths...I could beat a dead horse all night, we all agree the game was poorly coached, but I think this team as a whole, talent wise can go far....The coaching just needs to take the handcuffs off/ let the kids play/whatever and just go for the jugular.

Agree! I too thought JC improved noticeably, but you have to view the first half to see it. The second half should be laid at the coaches feet with a mulligan for everyone else. They shut down every aggressive instinct.

As far as Betts triping, what I saw was THE play that the NYG expected BECAUSE it had been used on the Portis score. They overshifted to that side before the snap. Not sure about the clear lane; I was watching the Gmen's D and saw the play was doomed.

[hail2skins]

Originally Posted by greatest2

also, he needs a little better time/field awareness. he could have slowed down on the 4th down play. he had 30 seconds (a regular play clock is 40). so he didn't have to run the same play. he could have gotten a call from the sidelines in a hurry up mode

The problem with that is that the coaches wanted to run the same play twice. Gibbs stated several times. He did what the coaches wanted him to do.

[shally]

Originally Posted by PennSkinsFan

The problem with this game was coaching, period. Bad calls, coaching to not lose instead of coaching to win and when it comes down to these close games at the end, I must say, I completely lack confidence in Gregg Williams. He allows the teams to walk down in prevent defensive crap that puts these defenses in positions we dont need to be in. Landry saved the day last week. BUT, take a look at how they got down there in the first place. Then this week, we play the crappy prevent defense again and again while the Giants take advantage after advantage.

You all may have burgundy color glasses on when it comes to Gibbs and GW, but mine are clearly off now and I am judging these coahces as if they were any other staff, and folks, the play calling and approach of the secodn half yesterday was just down right horrendous.

i feel exactly the same way...

the only time i can say i had similar reservations was in gibbs' first year when he was 0-5.. and was being pilloried by the press as being not up to the job.
it took a total change in the offensive concept by gibbs and a heart to heart with theisman to change things.. while i do not believe that any conversation with JC need take place, one with AS and GW better take place. because we are a team without a defining style of play now, and if gibbs cannot summon up the personal courage to take total charge of things, we are going to fail

[RedskinRyan]

laFell betts

[shally]

Originally Posted by RedskinRyan

laFell betts

he shouldnt have been in there to begin with..

you think gibbs would have taken riggins out of any similar game for the final 2 plays ??

[WarEagle]

Betts fell so suddenly and inexplicably that I thought he tripped over a water sprinkler that had popped up out of the ground!

Has Clinton Portis explained why Clinton Portis was a spectator during the infamous drive?

[youngestson]

Originally Posted by PennSkinsFan

The problem with this game was coaching, period. Bad calls, coaching to not lose instead of coaching to win and when it comes down to these close games at the end, I must say, I completely lack confidence in Gregg Williams. He allows the teams to walk down in prevent defensive crap that puts these defenses in positions we dont need to be in. Landry saved the day last week. BUT, take a look at how they got down there in the first place. Then this week, we play the crappy prevent defense again and again while the Giants take advantage after advantage.

You all may have burgundy color glasses on when it comes to Gibbs and GW, but mine are clearly off now and I am judging these coahces as if they were any other staff, and folks, the play calling and approach of the secodn half yesterday was just down right horrendous.

Then you may want to also remove the thick smoke-shaded ones as well, because it matters not what plays are or are not called when the player exacute their assignments as poorly as the Redskins did in much of the second half.

[X-Factor13]

Originally Posted by PennSkinsFan

The problem with this game was coaching, period. Bad calls, coaching to not lose instead of coaching to win and when it comes down to these close games at the end, I must say, I completely lack confidence in Gregg Williams. He allows the teams to walk down in prevent defensive crap that puts these defenses in positions we dont need to be in. Landry saved the day last week. BUT, take a look at how they got down there in the first place. Then this week, we play the crappy prevent defense again and again while the Giants take advantage after advantage.

You all may have burgundy color glasses on when it comes to Gibbs and GW, but mine are clearly off now and I am judging these coaches as if they were any other staff, and folks, the play calling and approach of the second half yesterday was just down right horrendous.

Do any of you remember that GW signed a deal that would basically make him the head coach if Gibbs left? I really hope that that changes when he leaves, because honestly, I can't stand him as the coordinator at this point! I just don't understand how you can think that there is this end-all-drives-in-any-situation defense when it has clearly failed us several times over the last couple YEARS!!! If he fails to make a change over the bye week, I will more than likely be finished with this coaching staff for good.

[skinsfan45]

i understand and agree with most of the points made in this thread - however if u r like me u feel like the first half of the game belonged to the Skins because they played their butts off -- most especially on defense which of course eases the load on the offense -- so.... IMO that begs the question "who really let us down?" in my humble opinion, CP was hurt a bit when he layed the block -- Moss was not 100% either -- Jason showed us that he needs a little more time to be able to read the defense and to be able to pick out options on the field rather than just automatically going with first choice (he is still young) the O-line needs to work out the difficulties they are facing with injuries and DUMB penalties, the defense has got to find a way to be consistantly effective on PASS defense(if this were my defense to run we would have at least i player on his way to disrupt the QB on EVERY down)-- way too soft on secondary coverage -- linebackers should not have to play off the line in order to back up our secondary on every down -- hope this doesn't sound like bashing, its not! and in other news GREAT PLAY BY SPECIAL TEAMS