Is Zorn Showing Too Much?

[hail2skins]

So, with the new passing offense being installed, do you guys think Zorn is showing too much giving teams a lot of film to review to prepare for them? Or do you think he's keeping it simple and only running basic stuff he wants to use.

[CarMike]

Pretty vanilla so for to me. Especially with Campbell not playing much so far.

[redskin_rich]

I think getting the offense to execute flawlessly is more important than worrying about showing too much. We've seen the past few years an offense that clearly wasn't ready come opening day and that is far bigger a problem than showing opponents a few of your tendencies.

[Keino]

I don't think he is showing too much, but on that last Devine Drive, I wish he would have run the ball on 4th down instead of Play-pass.....

Not that I think it's a bad call, but we have all season to run a Play pass in that situation, because no matter what, defenses have to sell out on the run. However, that was a great opportunity to see who "wants it more". From that perspective, I think he got a bit cute, but for the most part I think he is calling and having the offense run the most basic patterns and plays that are a staple of his offense.

[akhhorus]

There's 3 base sets seattle ran that we haven't seen much of so far(4 wrs, 1 Rb/3 WRs, 2 TE and the brown pro set), so I think he's not running the full playbook at all. Other than that, it looks like Zorn is running Holmgren's playbook from the last couple years.

[skinfanjon]

Originally Posted by akhhorus

There's 3 base sets seattle ran that we haven't seen much of so far(4 wrs, 1 Rb/3 WRs, 2 TE and the brown pro set), so I think he's not running the full playbook at all. Other than that, it looks like Zorn is running Holmgren's playbook from the last couple years.

I thought we went 4 WR quite a bit on Saturday, I can remember at least six or seven snaps in that formation. I would like to see more 3 WR/ Singleback sets though, that may wind up being our most effective formation come the regular season. Portis doesn't need a lead blocker to be effective and it keeps Cooley on the field, that's maximizing our personnel in my opinion. It keeps the defense off balance and allows us to run or pass on any down.

Concerning Zorn, I don't think he's showing too much. He's called the second half of both games pretty close to the vest, mainly trying to get the game over with. I don't think we've seen anything real exotic with the first teamers, although the screen pass to Betts out of the split back formation may have been a glimpse into his playcalling creativity.

[Keino]

Blache may be showing too much. Im not sure I would have shown flip flopping the DEs in this game, if at all during the pre-season.

[Hr fan]

Originally Posted by akhhorus

There's 3 base sets seattle ran that we haven't seen much of so far(4 wrs, 1 Rb/3 WRs, 2 TE and the brown pro set), so I think he's not running the full playbook at all. Other than that, it looks like Zorn is running Holmgren's playbook from the last couple years.

Agree. It isn't as if the players have absorbed the full intricacies of the WCO. What we are seeing IMO is superior continuity on the portion of the playbook being run. Besides, as a Holmgren disciple, it isn't as if the playbook is sercret. Plenty of tape to study. The key is execution and consistency, and Zorn is way ahead on these scores than I expected.

[lorimike]

Originally Posted by redskin_rich

I think getting the offense to execute flawlessly is more important than worrying about showing too much. We've seen the past few years an offense that clearly wasn't ready come opening day and that is far bigger a problem than showing opponents a few of your tendencies.

totally agree. For the first time in a long time our preseason is showing that we have some potential on offense. Its a refreshing change from the last several years

[LadyNRedskinsfan]

I was just saying on Saturday, that it seems as if the offense hasn't shown much at all IMO. We've seen alot of the basic staples of the offense and what I do like is the lack of penalties, the efficiency and the organization so far.

[flave1969]

As said by others here, I just think we have seen good execution so we are seeing drives sustained and therefore plays. Lets face it the past four preseasons have been pretty dire in terms of execution so we are getting spoilt for entertainment right now.

[redskinz#1fan]

I don't think they have showed much at all....I know what they have shown is an offense that believes in what their coach is doing!

[hogskins]

Originally Posted by redskin_rich

I think getting the offense to execute flawlessly is more important than worrying about showing too much. We've seen the past few years an offense that clearly wasn't ready come opening day and that is far bigger a problem than showing opponents a few of your tendencies.

Excellent point. I'd rather "they" know something than us "knowing nothing" in week one of the regular season. Zorn looks smart, as far as I'm concerned.

[silverspring]

Originally Posted by redskin_rich

I think getting the offense to execute flawlessly is more important than worrying about showing too much. We've seen the past few years an offense that clearly wasn't ready come opening day and that is far bigger a problem than showing opponents a few of your tendencies.

I couldn't agree more.

When gibbs implemented his offense and then the saunders/gibbs offense they showed nothing and it resulted in the offense looking sloppy and unable to smoothly execute plays when regular season started.

[Dolla Bill]

I think the biggest difference has been execution in just the basic things. Last year I really didn't see the sense of urgency and response to how Zorn has things now. He seems to have a good grasp of this team, and they're responding well.