Peyton Manning - The Answer

[Skin-E-Dip]

All this talk about Andrew Luck but seeing the game against Oregon made me realize one thing : with our offensive line and lack of weapons on offense, Luck and every other rookie QB possibility is going to be running for their life for the first two years. They will quickly become damaged goods AKA Jason Campbell

If the Colts get the #1, they are certainly picking Luck. We look assured of having a top 5 pick and Indy would love the chance to take that pick straight up for Manning. Having Luck and still a top 5 pick would make it easy for the Indy fans to digest losing Manning. And that is the most important barrier from him leaving.

So does any of this make sense for the Redskins:

1) Manning was at the top of his game when he got hurt. Not some aging vet holding on to the glory years

2) Manning at 80% is better than any rookie QB would be after three years injury free

3) This years Colts prove that Manning can singlehanded take a bottom team and make them a deep playoff threat. Without him they are the worst team in the league. Imagine what he can do for us and we are maybe 5 teams better.

4) Manning instantly improves our wr production and running game by opening up the deep pass. This means less skill position holes we need to fill through the draft or free agency and more for the O and D lines

5) Kyle Shanahan isnt going anywhere for the next two years. With Manning, however, you get a player who is 60% great QB and 40% offensive coordinator anyway.

I have always hated the big free agent names but if you got a chance to get Peyton Manning, you sell the farm. End of story. This team has no chance of being competitive for the next 5 years with the Giants and Dallas having young QB's. This is still a weak division and can be taking. Manning is the answer.

[DaveKShape]

1) manning has missed an entire season after his 3rd neck surgery. there's no guarantee he'll even be back and ready to play next season... or ever.

2) we saw what happened when mcnabb tried to freelance a bit. kyle wants robots for his precious scheme. peyton manning's improvising and self-play-calling would be like mcnabb times 5 to kyle's dumb@$$ scheme. kyle wouldn't have it, and he'd be benched for *mediocre-to-terrible backup QB that kyle is infatuated with (hell... probably rex grossman again anyway)* even faster than mcnabb got benched.

3) i think the colts will keep manning around for at least 1 or 2 more seasons to mentor luck, even though manning's contract is expensive. luck won't be making sam bradford money thanks to the new wage scale. hell, i could totally see manning retiring in a few years and immediately becoming OC or even HC for the colts before he comes anywhere close to being our QB.

4) even if manning came here, something would go horribly horribly wrong, as it always does in redskin land. also, his contract would prevent us from spending money on real areas that we have need (cough OL, cough)

it's rookie or "young, hungry vet with legit potential" QB time.

[Farmer Ted]

Manning would be perfect for the Skins. We could trade away 2-3 #1 picks, which makes drafting so much easier, and he would probably play almost as well as McNabb did. That would totally free up my Decembers and Januarys for the next 4 or 5 years.

[cal_junior]

Originally Posted by Skin-E-Dip

if you got a chance to get Peyton Manning, you sell the farm.

No, you sure don't. If you're going to sell the farm sell it for a guy who might be around for 12 years.

[redskin_rich]

Thank you sir, may I have another.

[tribeinca]

I wonder how these wild scenarios/ideas come up. Common sense is no longer common any more. Are you the one posting this team will go 10-6 a few weeks ago?

[colkurtz]

I'd say Manning is less than 50-50 toward playing again. No use being one of the QB greats and all that money if you can't move your neck or are in constant pain or are paralyzed.

Why would we trade a #1 for a QB who (even if he plays) has between 1-3 years of his career left. Our #1 draft pick can be used to get one of the top 3 QB right out of college. If he's franchise then you've got him for a decade.

We've tried the old, downside of their career QB with McKnabb, Brunell - how did that turn out?

Draft the best QB with our #1 pick and use most of the rest of the draft to build a young, talented OL.

[Lavar703]

Aww come on, really?

[hail2skins]

Originally Posted by Skin-E-Dip

I have always hated the big free agent names but if you got a chance to get Peyton Manning, you sell the farm. End of story.

Please step away from the bar. You don't sell the farm on an injured, 15 year vet.

[CarMike]

Originally Posted by Skin-E-Dip

I have always hated the big free agent names but if you got a chance to get Peyton Manning, you sell the farm. End of story.

[hail2skins]

Originally Posted by CarMike

Me likes, me likes.

[Keino]

Peyton Manning is the answer if the question is:

How can we keep the Redskins mired in mediocrity never rebuilding through the draft?

[BraveHeartFan]

Originally Posted by Skin-E-Dip

All this talk about Andrew Luck but seeing the game against Oregon made me realize one thing : with our offensive line and lack of weapons on offense, Luck and every other rookie QB possibility is going to be running for their life for the first two years. They will quickly become damaged goods AKA Jason Campbell

If the Colts get the #1, they are certainly picking Luck. We look assured of having a top 5 pick and Indy would love the chance to take that pick straight up for Manning. Having Luck and still a top 5 pick would make it easy for the Indy fans to digest losing Manning. And that is the most important barrier from him leaving.

So does any of this make sense for the Redskins:

1) Manning was at the top of his game when he got hurt. Not some aging vet holding on to the glory years

2) Manning at 80% is better than any rookie QB would be after three years injury free

3) This years Colts prove that Manning can singlehanded take a bottom team and make them a deep playoff threat. Without him they are the worst team in the league. Imagine what he can do for us and we are maybe 5 teams better.

4) Manning instantly improves our wr production and running game by opening up the deep pass. This means less skill position holes we need to fill through the draft or free agency and more for the O and D lines

5) Kyle Shanahan isnt going anywhere for the next two years. With Manning, however, you get a player who is 60% great QB and 40% offensive coordinator anyway.

I have always hated the big free agent names but if you got a chance to get Peyton Manning, you sell the farm. End of story. This team has no chance of being competitive for the next 5 years with the Giants and Dallas having young QB's. This is still a weak division and can be taking. Manning is the answer.

My biggest questions would come to me in this order...


1) Is he going to be healthy enough to actually be effective any longer? Neck injuries are serious business and this sounds very serious to me.

The big problem here is that you're going to give up a very high #1 pick for a 35 year old QB, coming off neck injuries, and with no knowledge or rather he'll be effective any longer.

That's an enormous gamble even for a great like Peyton Manning.


2) You mentioned the rookie QBs getting the hell beaten out of them behind your o-line. Well then what the heck is Manning going to do? He has no mobility and unlike the young guys he also doesn't have a young body with no wear and tear on it.

Now you factor in that neck injury situation even more. Coming off that and then getting behind an O-line where he'd need to move around to avoid beind destroyed? Doesn't sound like the best scenerio for Manning or the Redskins.


3) How much will it affect your cap? He's got a large deal. Now you're giving up a #1 pick and a lot of money for a QB whose been amazing, and no one denies that, but there are some very serious question marks about at this point in his career.


This just seems like an extremely high gamble for any team to make and one that could potentially set you back another 3-4 years if it back fires.

[guess88]

The biggest question is Manning's health.

If that checks out, I don't see any team giving up as much as it would cost, and absorbing his contract unless they were a QB from a championship. He only has a few years left if at all, why mortgage farm for a band aid?

Though this wouldn't surprise me if Vinny were still around...

[Wild Bore]

I would sign him for the vet minimum. He should be worth the risk!