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Old 02-28-2012, 08:58 PM
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This comes from the WP. Let the madness begin.

Washington Redskins prepared to part with two first-round picks and more for St. Louis Rams’ No. 2 spot in the draft

The Washington Redskins are prepared to part with two first-round draft picks, plus other selections in the early and middle rounds, to secure the St. Louis Rams’ No. 2 pick in April’s draft and land Baylor quarterback Robert Griffin III, according to people with knowledge of the situation.

The Rams are said to be seeking compensation similar to what the San Diego Chargers received from the New York Giants in exchange for Eli Manning in 2004. That year, the Chargers drafted Manning first overall. The Giants sent their fourth overall pick, the following year’s first-round pick, and their 2004 third- and fifth-round picks to San Diego for the quarterback who has since led New York to two Super Bowl victories.


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Old 02-28-2012, 09:06 PM
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Sounds good to me. A complete package QB like Luck or RGII comes around maybe every three years. The Skins are in competition with one other team and that's it. You don't play coy. You let the Rams know that you are willing to put it all on the table.
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Old 02-28-2012, 09:07 PM
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I just saw this in another post. Feel free to close it or move it.
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Old 02-28-2012, 09:12 PM
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I am kewl with a swap this year next years 1st a 3rd and a 5th. Also would offer the deal to the Rams and say you have a week to accept it after that the deal is off the table.

At the #2 your guranteed to see Luck or RG3. Both of whom I would give the picks up for. 1st and 3rd this year 1st and 5th next year.
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Old 02-28-2012, 09:24 PM
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I think this is a bad idea, for one BIG reason. RGIII, is a runner, he will always be a runner. Any QB with 4.4 speed, or 4.38 depending on timer, is gonna want to run. Any running QB in this league is destined for a short injury filled career. RGIII will never be great, although he may provide for some spectacular highlights on ESPN.......please see Randal Cunningham. Pass.
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I think this is a bad idea, for one BIG reason. RGIII, is a runner, he will always be a runner. Any QB with 4.4 speed, or 4.38 depending on timer, is gonna want to run. Any running QB in this league is destined for a short injury filled career. RGIII will never be great, although he may provide for some spectacular highlights on ESPN.......please see Randal Cunningham. Pass.
D. McNabb was a runner and had 10 solid years. Steve Young was a runner and had a long career. Cunningham's problem wasn't that he was a runner but it was his long wind up. RGIII seems to have a nice combination of speed, short enough wind up and accuracy. Which is important because once his athleticism goes he can be an affective passer like Young was.
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D. McNabb was a runner and had 10 solid years. Steve Young was a runner and had a long career. Cunningham's problem wasn't that he was a runner but it was his long wind up. RGIII seems to have a nice combination of speed, short enough wind up and accuracy. Which is important because once his athleticism goes he can be an affective passer like Young was.

Was McNabb ever worth 2 1st round picks, and 2 mid round picks? No. McNabb was solid for several years, but never great and if you are paying that price you are paying for greatness. Steve Young rode the bench for several years honing his skills, RG3 cannot do that, he will have to perform right away.
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I think this is a bad idea, for one BIG reason. RGIII, is a runner, he will always be a runner. Any QB with 4.4 speed, or 4.38 depending on timer, is gonna want to run. Any running QB in this league is destined for a short injury filled career. RGIII will never be great, although he may provide for some spectacular highlights on ESPN.......please see Randal Cunningham. Pass.

you ever seen him play? seems like ignorant commentary by an individual that hasn't watched him much. Yes he happens to be fast but no he's not a runner....he lingers in the pocket...often too long ala Big Ben to extend plays and if absolutely necessary then yes he'll eventually run... I'd be more worried about him being abused in the pocket trying to extend plays in the nfl
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I posted this in another thread, but I'll post it here:

I'd do something similar to what Atlanta traded to Cleveland last year...

Skins get
2nd overall pick (2012)

Rams get:
6th overall pick (2012)
3rd round pick (2012)
Natural 4th round pick (2012)
1st round pick (2013)
4th round pick (2013)
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you ever seen him play? seems like ignorant commentary by an individual that hasn't watched him much. Yes he happens to be fast but no he's not a runner....he lingers in the pocket...often too long ala Big Ben to extend plays and if absolutely necessary then yes he'll eventually run... I'd be more worried about him being abused in the pocket trying to extend plays in the nfl
Im not going to get into an insult exchange over an opinion about how a future draft pick will perform, so if you want to start this debate with insults it will be a short lived one. I will say that yes, I watched the kid play. I watched him last year and the year before when he was fairly pedestrian. RG III is a SMALL quarterback, and with that speed, his first instinct will be to tuck and run in the NFL. If you have God given speed like that, you are going to use it, and in the NFL those chicken like legs are gonna get injured. We're not talking Cam Newton, we're talking a rather small QB by NFL standards with freakish quickness who is going to get hit, and he's going to go down. RG III will be out injured by week 9 if he starts every week in the NFL, that's just my opinion. I hope Im wrong, and I hope the kid is the next great QB, but I don't think the Skins should mortgage the future for this kid with so many needs on this team.
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I think this is a bad idea, for one BIG reason. RGIII, is a runner, he will always be a runner. Any QB with 4.4 speed, or 4.38 depending on timer, is gonna want to run. Any running QB in this league is destined for a short injury filled career. RGIII will never be great, although he may provide for some spectacular highlights on ESPN.......please see Randal Cunningham. Pass.
Aaron Rogers is also considered a running QB and is doing just fine. Honestly, we are in the post-Vick error of evaluating QB's and scouts aren't looking at guys who just run and can't pass. RGIII is not a gimmick. You could take his speed away and he would still be a top QB pick just on his passing skills.
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Aaron Rogers is also considered a running QB and is doing just fine. Honestly, we are in the post-Vick error of evaluating QB's and scouts aren't looking at guys who just run and can't pass. RGIII is not a gimmick. You could take his speed away and he would still be a top QB pick just on his passing skills.
+1, you hit the nail on the head. Running QBs were just that a gimmick. Like Tim Tebow today and what is funny the Broncos didn't even try to hide that he is a gimmick. However defenses eventually adjust to gimmicks and those type QBs only have a few year run. RG111 is no gimmick, he has all the tools and when his athleticism starts to dwindle he will still have his smarts, arm strength and accuracy to carry him for a few extra years. I like this kid, I hope we get him. Even if we don't I will be rooting for him, because he seems like a good person and will be exciting to watch.
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I think this is a bad idea, for one BIG reason. RGIII, is a runner, he will always be a runner. Any QB with 4.4 speed, or 4.38 depending on timer, is gonna want to run. Any running QB in this league is destined for a short injury filled career. RGIII will never be great, although he may provide for some spectacular highlights on ESPN.......please see Randal Cunningham. Pass.
WOW!!! Do you have the wining lottery #'s too, since you can now predict the future? Clearly you haven't watched him play at all, because he looks to pass 1st, run when neccessary.

CRAZY!!!
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Old 02-28-2012, 10:57 PM
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I got a feeling with Holmgrens ties to the Packers he's gonna make a play for Flynn. I think the Dolphins may end up being our main competitors.

The package Skaggrules posted sounds about what might happen. The bidding for RGIII could get crazy if you believe the hype being spun the Rams could be just juicing the market.

We are the splash team this sorta thing is up our alley.
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WOW!!! Do you have the wining lottery #'s too, since you can now predict the future? Clearly you haven't watched him play at all, because he looks to pass 1st, run when neccessary.

CRAZY!!!
I should say the same for you! Clearly, if you support giving up all these draft picks then, in your opinion, RG3 is a sure thing franchise quarterback. The draft is a total crap shoot. I would rather spend some money on a FA QB, and use the draft picks we have to continue and build this team. Giving up the future for a QB with 1 great year who will pull it down and run first, thats CRAZY !!!
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