Rookie WRs Thread

[saratogan]

This is just a temporary thread. I would almost say they are MIA. Thomas has been in for a few plays. I thought Davis would start to have an impact but seems to have disappeared, unless I just have totally missed him with all the other great action occurring. What has happened or is occurring? Your thoughts?

[Patrick]

Oh man -don't get me started ........... TOO LATE
For the first quarter of the season I give you a grade for all three: 0.75 on a 4.0 scale.
.........PLEASE do something you guys!!! Don't start me thinking that this will end up to be the worse 2nd round draft in our history!

[bergiemoore]

Originally Posted by Patrick

Oh man -don't get me started ........... TOO LATE
For the first quarter of the season I give you a grade for all three: 0.75 on a 4.0 scale.
.........PLEASE do something you guys!!! Don't start me thinking that this will end up to be the worse 2nd round draft in our history!

I think that judging the draft after 4 games is extremely premature.

Fred is sitting behind a pro-bowl TE and a very capable vet. I don't expect him to be a huge part of the offense unless either Cooley or Yoder get injured.

Thomas' role in the offense has expanded. He was on the field for at least 10 snaps in Sunday's game, and had at least as many the week before. He has yet to make an impact in the passing game, but I did see him blocking down-field on some running plays, and that always makes me happy. It really bites that Heyer's penalty negated his best contribution so far.

Kelly is still battling the injury bug. With 4 other receivers, including an emerging Moss, complimentary Randle El, and competent Thrash, there really isn't a huge demand for Thomas to be on the field right now. I would have loved to see him run the corner route in the endzone that Moss was unable to bring down in bounds, but even Zorn admitted that with the new rules on force-outs, those plays don't make a whole lot of sense anymore.

Bottom line, it is far too early for any type of qualified judgment on these 3. Check back in about a year or 2.

[Keino]

My thoughts are that it typically takes WRs about 3 years to grasp the pro-game and become reliable WRs. To me they are both right on schedule, and I think Devin Thomas is actually making a decent contribution right now.

I am a little disappointed in Kelly's inability to stay healthy, but we knew that he has potential knee issues.

[VegasSkinsFan]

I was hoping for something but wasnt expecting a lot. The way I look at it like this....we have a decent offense that can throw 30 points on any team, AND we still have 3 bullets that we havent loaded into the gun yet. GO SKINS !!!!!!!!

[Ibleedburgundy]

I don't know why people assumed Davis would instantaneously be ahead of Yoder. Yoder seems like a decent #2 TE to me.

Kelly and Thomas are Taylor Jacobs until they prove otherwise and I'm not saying they won't. Difference being that Jacobs was alleged to have had some good training camps. Besides, I don't see either of those guys outplaying Thrash this year so it's going to be an uphill battle, as it should be.

Of course all three should be given 2-3 years. It's too early to tell.

[Patrick]

Originally Posted by bergiemoore

I think that judging the draft after 4 games is extremely premature.

Fred is sitting behind a pro-bowl TE and a very capable vet. I don't expect him to be a huge part of the offense unless either Cooley or Yoder get injured.

Thomas' role in the offense has expanded. He was on the field for at least 10 snaps in Sunday's game, and had at least as many the week before. He has yet to make an impact in the passing game, but I did see him blocking down-field on some running plays, and that always makes me happy. It really bites that Heyer's penalty negated his best contribution so far.

Kelly is still battling the injury bug. With 4 other receivers, including an emerging Moss, complimentary Randle El, and competent Thrash, there really isn't a huge demand for Thomas to be on the field right now. I would have loved to see him run the corner route in the endzone that Moss was unable to bring down in bounds, but even Zorn admitted that with the new rules on force-outs, those plays don't make a whole lot of sense anymore.

Bottom line, it is far too early for any type of qualified judgment on these 3. Check back in about a year or 2.

I'm only really judging the result of thier combined contribution to the team for the first quarter of the season.

True that Davis has been behind Cooley but he's had problems getting the offense down. At least that the only way I can take it when the HC keeps commenting (Tuesday's 4:00pm, SportsTalk 980, Jim Zorn Show) of his improvement in practice each week and how he's beginning to get the offense down. ..... to his credit he has seen the field and even made a catch I believe.

Thomas is the only reason why I would grade the group at 0.75. He's at least made it onto the field the most and does have 2 catches.
Kelly (who I had high hopes for) is glass IMO. Started out strong in the early preseason and ever since has be fighting injuries.
NOW, don't get me wrong .......... I want nothing more than each of these guys to turn to be pro-bowlers - if nothing else solid players AND THEY might. BUT as of right now and what I've seen ..... Ain't showing me nothing!

[shally]

Originally Posted by saratogan

This is just a temporary thread. I would almost say they are MIA. Thomas has been in for a few plays. I thought Davis would start to have an impact but seems to have disappeared, unless I just have totally missed him with all the other great action occurring. What has happened or is occurring? Your thoughts?

what rookie receivers ??? lol

actually, it will take some time, given what poor shape they came into camp in..

[Redskin-4-life]

Originally Posted by shally

what rookie receivers ??? lol

actually, it will take some time, given what poor shape they came into camp in..

I was thinking the same thing. In fact we can say what draft? Horton and Brooks is the only rookies on the team that you see on the field. Thomas is getting some playing time, but it seems that he's just out there to run block, or give high fives after a play.

[bergiemoore]

Originally Posted by Redskin-4-life

I was thinking the same thing. In fact we can say what draft? Horton and Brooks is the only rookies on the team that you see on the field. Thomas is getting some playing time, but it seems that he's just out there to run block, or give high fives after a play.

Kareem Moore made a couple plays on the punt/kick coverage units (he was all over Packman according to JLC), and got on the field when Blache put in the Quarters package. He has passed Hamilton on the depth chart.

Jackson played some, recording one tackle on Witten 2 plays before the Horton interception. Jackson made the active list over James, who may still not be 100%, health wise, however, he played in the first 2 games.

Davis was active, however, when Cooley takes all but 5 offensive snaps, and Yoder plays the part of the Blocking TE so well, I don't want him on the field that much. That said, he was in there for a couple of plays, but had no targets.


Tryon, Kelly, and Rinehart were inactive.

Kelly's injury status concerns me, but the offense is clearly able to get along just fine without him, and it's way too soon to call him a bust.

Rinehart won't be activated unless Heyer and Fabini are unable to go on Sunday, or he starts playing Center.

Tryon is a project who seems to be improving in practices, according to the Redskins Blog, but probably won't be active unless one of the CBs ahead of him gets injured, or steps up as a special teamer. Torrence is playing like this is a contract year for him (which it is) in his limited time on the field.

Brennan is the third QB, and, while technically inactive, is able to play in emergency situations. I don't know what the coaches would need to see from him to promote him to 2nd string, but you have to figure that this is another area where you have to be happy that he's not contributing, as that would mean that there's something seriously wrong with your QB depth.

Altogether, the rookies are developing at a normal pace. Only Horton has turned out to be a real difference maker at this point in the season, and that's extremely ironic considering he was the last of them in the draft order.

[cal_junior]

Since the offense is playing well (knock on wood), I would think that would be all the more reason to bring the rookies along slowly and have them ready for the later stages of the season and, more importantly, the next few seasons.

Has there been a game where people feel if those guys were in, it would changed a game dramatically? I say as long as the team is winning and offense isn't an issue take it slow.

[guess88]

Way too early to judge... rookie receivers generally don't contribute right away. they're progressing normally, and if we're winning, I could care less for now.

[shally]

Originally Posted by guess88

Way too early to judge... rookie receivers generally don't contribute right away. they're progressing normally, and if we're winning, I could care less for now.

would have loved to see thomas get that td against the cards.. would have gotten him pumped for certain...

[Battle Cat]

It is still really early. Hopefully they are all learning the offense and can contribute more in the second half of the season. I hope we don't look back though and wish we had drafted the Jackson kid out of California who plays with the Eagles now. He seems to have a little S. Moss to him.

[guess88]

Originally Posted by shally

would have loved to see thomas get that td against the cards.. would have gotten him pumped for certain...

oh for sure, always hate to see a rookie get his 1st TD taken away. But I'm expecting him to have another soon, and hopefully much more in the long run.