Akh's Thoughts: Offseason tracks

[akhhorus]

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[BIGREDSKINSFAN1963]

i agree with a lot of what you say,but getting chris long from the rams is gonna cost more than andre carter.i thought that kitna signed a 2 year deal with dallas?

[akhhorus]

Originally Posted by BIGREDSKINSFAN1963

i agree with a lot of what you say,but getting chris long from the rams is gonna cost more than andre carter.i thought that kitna signed a 2 year deal with dallas?

He signed a 4 year deal but he looks like an ideal salary purge candidate. If he's still with Dallas, then that will change to Rex Grossman or Pennington as the caddy for Bradford.

[BIGREDSKINSFAN1963]

i'd take pennington over grossman any day.what about the ram deal for chris long?we both know that's gonna cost more.
and i would never,ever,ever sign jason taylor to anything!i would go with sean merriman first!

[BurgundyNGold]

Originally Posted by akhhorus

He signed a 4 year deal but he looks like an ideal salary purge candidate. If he's still with Dallas, then that will change to Rex Grossman or Pennington as the caddy for Bradford.

Pennington, yes. Grossman...

[akhhorus]

Originally Posted by BIGREDSKINSFAN1963

i'd take pennington over grossman any day.what about the ram deal for chris long?we both know that's gonna cost more.

The Rams would love to dump the remaining 40ish million of his deal, especially if they were getting a 4-3 DE back in the deal.

Originally Posted by BIGREDSKINSFAN1963

and i would never,ever,ever sign jason taylor to anything!i would go with sean merriman first!

I wouldn't touch Merriman with a ten foot pole. He hasn't been the same since he entered the NFL drug testing program.

Originally Posted by BurgundyNGold

Pennington, yes. Grossman...

Kyle Shanahan and LaFleur had him in Houston, if they think he has some value as a tackling dummy, I have no problem with that.

[BurgundyNGold]

Originally Posted by akhhorus

The Rams would love to dump the remaining 40ish million of his deal, especially if they were getting a 4-3 DE back in the deal.

I wouldn't touch Merriman with a ten foot pole. He hasn't been the same since he entered the NFL drug testing program.

Kyle Shanahan and LaFleur had him in Houston, if they think he has some value as a tackling dummy, I have no problem with that.

As a 3rd QB, maybe. But Grossman shouldn't see the field to fix divots or to put down yard stripes.

[akhhorus]

Originally Posted by BurgundyNGold

As a 3rd QB, maybe. But Grossman shouldn't see the field to fix divots or to put down yard stripes.

I dunno, he's Todd Collins with less suck. We could do much worse.

[shally]

some good thoughts

i disagree about Dockery going.. he is young, and somewhat mobile.
only if we sign/trade for 2 guards,is he gone

think about Neal, who is UFA but still productive

think about guys like Boothe and Whimper who are RFA's but whom the Giants dont have room to keep and will likely cut, eventually

Bushrod = Levi Jones.. he needs help against EVERY speed rusher he faces..at LT we need a guy who can hold the edge himself

think about Jamal Brown coming off of hernia surgery.. if the Saints want to move someone, that would be the guy i target

speaking of Levi Jones, any consideration of his is purely as a RT, if he is looking to play LT, forget it..

think of Darren Sharper if the Saints are slow to sign him.. move Landry to SS and let Sharper play FS.. or pair Sharper with Horton and move Landry for what we can get.

Rocky wont go anywhere because he is versatile

I dont think McKenzie has anything left

Chester Taylor just makes so much sense i cannot see the offseason without him

Ugoh ?? riding the bench in favor of a FA ? he is going to want huge money for dubious performance ?? by the way, did you see how stout the middle of the INDY O line was ? all the pressure came from the edges

Adelus Thomas has immense talent, but been allowed to leave 2 teams. i dont know if he can be counted on as far as form the neck up

Rogers will stay or go depending upon how much he expects.. would take Robinson over him in a heartbeat, but not sure if Dunta will be available

why does GB want Landry over Collins ? i dont see that at all

i dont think that the Rams will be that active, but where they get their QB from will determine what the course is of their off season.. and how much do they think that Suh is a player for the ages.. you think Spags lets them pass on Suh if he thinks he is THAT good ? then again, Long and Carrecker have certainly proved that there are NO sure things at DL

the Saints have something like 20 free agents and coming off a SB win, the demands will be over the top.. look for them to pare players and go as young as they can..a lot of their RFA's wont be tendered, i would guess

i believe they might just keep A Carter as the "designated" pass rusher using him like Chales Haley and NOT giving him pass coverage responsibilities.. in that sense, the defense is a "4/3" when he is in, but he gets moved around and dropped back into a 2 point stance some times..

Kitna ?? maybe.. Sage, if available might make more sense because he has some mobility.. still, i think Pennington might end up being the guy, even though he lacks mobility and is injury prone.. just a hunch

[BurgundyNGold]

Originally Posted by akhhorus

I dunno, he's Todd Collins with less suck. We could do much worse.

That's not my criteria in a backup QB.

Grossman is a fat chick who smells of pork rinds that you take to prom because you were too busy Spicoli-ing it up in a van for 2 months and waited until the day-of to ask someone. In other words, it's something that Vinny would do lmao.

[shally]

Originally Posted by akhhorus

I dunno, he's Todd Collins with less suck. We could do much worse.

Grossman DID get Chicago to a SuperBowl ?? i still dont see how it happened, but it did.. besides, he has the perfect personality for Shanahan

[akhhorus]

Okay, I can't possibly respond to everything in your post shally, but our disagreements

Originally Posted by shally

i disagree about Dockery going.. he is young, and somewhat mobile.
only if we sign/trade for 2 guards,is he gone

He's a bad fit for the Shanny offense and has a big deal. He's almost certainly gone.

Originally Posted by shally

Bushrod = Levi Jones.. he needs help against EVERY speed rusher he faces..at LT we need a guy who can hold the edge himself

think about Jamal Brown coming off of hernia surgery.. if the Saints want to move someone, that would be the guy i target

They're not going to give up Brown unless we give up the #4 pick, I'll take Bushrod, even if we move him to RT and draft someone like Fox or Brown to play LT.

Originally Posted by shally

Rocky wont go anywhere because he is versatile

I doubt it. He's going to want a long term commitment which I doubt the skins give to him.

Originally Posted by shally

Ugoh ?? riding the bench in favor of a FA ? he is going to want huge money for dubious performance ?? by the way, did you see how stout the middle of the INDY O line was ? all the pressure came from the edges

Ugoh won't get huge money, and his price will be cheap. I'd take him as a RT.

Originally Posted by shally

why does GB want Landry over Collins ? i dont see that at all

They can pay Landry 3 year, 17-21 million-ish or pay Collins market value(5/40 probably).

Originally Posted by BurgundyNGold

That's not my criteria in a backup QB.

Grossman is a fat chick who smells of pork rinds that you take to prom because you were too busy Spicoli-ing it up in a van for 2 months and waited until the day-of to ask someone. In other words, it's something that Vinny would do lmao.

Vinny would have dealt for Grossman the day before he became a free agent lol.

I would want Pennington, I'll settle for Kitna or Kerry Collins

[jaylen]

I like your track much better than the projected Shanny track thats for damn sure.

The thought of Kitna as a qb turns my stomach. Pennington I can handle for a short time possibly.

I still think we're headed for deep trouble taking Bradford that has mistake written all over it he's almost like pennington in a sense with a better arm same fragile looking frame not certain he has any of the leadership traits though similar accuracy.

Lots of turnover on either track which is possible.

[Fathead]

I agree with the lets sign a stop gap QB for a season or 2 idea, but Grossman is a Vinny move.

[shally]

Originally Posted by akhhorus

Okay, I can't possibly respond to everything in your post shally, but our disagreements



He's a bad fit for the Shanny offense and has a big deal. He's almost certainly gone.



They're not going to give up Brown unless we give up the #4 pick, I'll take Bushrod, even if we move him to RT and draft someone like Fox or Brown to play LT.



I doubt it. He's going to want a long term commitment which I doubt the skins give to him.



Ugoh won't get huge money, and his price will be cheap. I'd take him as a RT.



They can pay Landry 3 year, 17-21 million-ish or pay Collins market value(5/40 probably).



Vinny would have dealt for Grossman the day before he became a free agent lol.

I would want Pennington, I'll settle for Kitna or Kerry Collins

i could easily live with Kerry Collins.. the only concern is if he is starting to break down physically

Collins at market value versus Landry for cheaper is still a no brainer..Collins can cover

if Ugoh is at bargain rate, he goes to the top of the list.. i dont htink he will go cheaply

the Saints have to decide which LT they keep because there isnt room for both Brown or Bushrod.. i would take Bushrod for RT, but he wont take that deal unless he is being paid like a left tackle, regardless of his performance

regardless of his contract, Dockery is the only player from the line worth keeping as a holdover. he is young and never misses a game.. as long as we only sign one guard, he will stay.. if we sign two, then obviously he is gone.
my guess is that he gets moved after this year in favor of Rinehart/EWilliams/ or whomever we draft or sign at the end of the draft.
finding a LEFT Guard is a whole lot easier than finding a Right Guard

Rocky has never done anything to deserve a long term deal.. he gets tendered for a year because no one else wants him long term. but he can play outside or inside, and plays the run decently