Would you want Sanchez

[IH Brave]

Originally Posted by shally

i liked Sanchez a lot coming out of school, and would have been ok with trading up to get him.. i was wrong then

in retrospect i think he was a product of a very good program with a lot of good athletes around him.. that is ALWAYS the risk of taking SoCal Qb's.
Other than Palmer I really cant think of any who looked to be as good as promised.. Then his career was totally de railed by the injury against Pitts.. He really hasnt been the same, and his play at Oakland this year does nothing to change my mind.

Does this give me pause about Barkley ?? Maybe.. But kind of glad that Shanahan doesnt have that temptation this draft..

I'm not sure if Barkley has been surround with the same level of talent as other USC QB's had. But to answer the question: I'm like Keino. I didn't want him when he was in the draft and I don't want him now.

[Moe]

Originally Posted by Keino

Bird in the hand my friend......

I wish I had such options and love to think that I'd be strong enough to improve my long term career with patience and hard work (and luck) and then cash in...but I say this from the simple comfort of not having such an option.

When it comes to Sanchez, he did what was best for him and despite his limitations, it's worked out pretty well. I don't think he has it in him at a fundamental level to be a championship QB and for that reason I wouldn't want him on the Skins.

[Keino]

Originally Posted by Moe

I wish I had such options and love to think that I'd be strong enough to improve my long term career with patience and hard work (and luck) and then cash in...but I say this from the simple comfort of not having such an option.

Moe, if you played a sport where your career could be over after taking one hit, and your money earning potential has a greater chance of decreasing than increasing, I think you would have to take the money. Add in that you are 21 years old, are you really thinking you are going to have the maturity and strength of character to say "I think I will hone my craft so I can become a better pro, even if said decisions costs me millions of dollars"?

[Moe]

Originally Posted by Keino

Moe, if you played a sport where your career could be over after taking one hit, and your money earning potential has a greater chance of decreasing than increasing, I think you would have to take the money. Add in that you are 21 years old, are you really thinking you are going to have the maturity and strength of character to say "I think I will hone my craft so I can become a better pro, even if said decisions costs me millions of dollars"?

That was my point. I'm fully aware that I'm judging him for doing what I almost certainly would have done as well. That being said, my criticism of him is not in his decision, but that it seems that the money (and what it affords) has trumped/satisfied his desire to be a great player.

Andrew Luck last year, Barkley and Jones this year, all had the same (or a better) option and went the other way. I think that says a lot.

[Keino]

Originally Posted by Moe

That was my point. I'm fully aware that I'm judging him for doing what I almost certainly would have done as well. That being said, my criticism of him is not in his decision, but that it seems that the money (and what it affords) has trumped/satisfied his desire to be a great player.

Andrew Luck last year, Barkley and Jones this year, all had the same (or a better) option and went the other way. I think that says a lot.

And Bradford had a significant injury which did not hurt his stock.

But I think it's more about what you do when you get to the league rather than what drives you to leave college in the first place. The reality is that every college student attends for the purpose of increasing their earning potential. We applaud the business student who takes a year or three off to pursue a business opportunity.

I personally think Luck, Jones and Barkley are stupid for making that decision absent a ridiculous insurance policy in case of injury. Luck less so, since his year was mired in labor issues.

[smoak]

In answer to the original question - Hell no do I have any interest in Sanchez. I am o glad Danny failed on that one.

[silverspring]

Originally Posted by smoak

In answer to the original question - Hell no do I have any interest in Sanchez. I am o glad Danny failed on that one.

+1

[RedskinRyan]

I'd rather have Brunell than Sanchez

[justinskins]

Originally Posted by Keino

And Bradford had a significant injury which did not hurt his stock.

But I think it's more about what you do when you get to the league rather than what drives you to leave college in the first place. The reality is that every college student attends for the purpose of increasing their earning potential. We applaud the business student who takes a year or three off to pursue a business opportunity.

I personally think Luck, Jones and Barkley are stupid for making that decision absent a ridiculous insurance policy in case of injury. Luck less so, since his year was mired in labor issues.

Excellent points.

I think a case can be made for finishing the bachelor's degree as part of a well-rounded education. Finishing a graduate degree, in my opinion, has to stem either from a passion for the subject or from the career possibilities it opens up. If someone is really passionate about playing in the NFL, he should do that instead of finishing up a master's degree.

Personally, I'd skip out on a bachelor's degree as well if I had a shot at being a top-10 draft selection. When a player's career is over, he will have plenty of time and money to pursue whatever degree he chooses. I'd question whether someone was really passionate about playing in the NFL if he chose a grad degree over professional football.

*EDIT* As for Sanchez, I'd be willing to trade a 4th for him.

[44 goes 50 gut]

Originally Posted by AustinSkin

I agree - no. That said, he will probably get a change of venue and become the pro bowl, Carlos Rogers of the QB set.

The knock on him is he's overly laid back and reliant on his raw talents doesnt study enough or work on his game.... If he was moved I could see him developing a chip on his shoulder just like Carlos Rodgers did.

Problem is you never know when guys need negative motivation until you give it to them by cutting them. Most guys who dont look like they are living up to their potential are just not going to live up to their potential, usually pissing them off makes them pout. Every once in a while you piss them off and they get motivated to prove you wrong.

Look at Devin Thomas cutting him didn't get him motivated... in fact he cant even start at WR on a Giants roster that has been banged up all season. His biggest accomplishment so far was nearly costing his team a playoff spot because he selfishly punched someone after the whistle.

Carlos Rodgers is the exception, and besides that on a 1 year contract, so lets see him do the same next year... Lets face it when a guy doesnt KNOW he needs glasses/contacts you have to question how smart the guy is.... Every physical he's ever taken has included a basic eye chart...

[guess88]

Originally Posted by 44 goes 50 gut

The knock on him is he's overly laid back and reliant on his raw talents doesnt study enough or work on his game.... If he was moved I could see him developing a chip on his shoulder just like Carlos Rodgers did.

Except that Sanchez is known for pouting and getting down on himself when making bad plays. He had a great cast and only had 1 year starting in college, please no Sanchez.

[smoak]

Originally Posted by RedskinRyan

I'd rather have Brunell than Sanchez

+1. At least Brunell is a likable person.