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Old 02-06-2012, 01:38 PM
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More Fuel to the fire. I Got a feeling the next 6 weeks are gonna be loaded with speculation!

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Just saw that myself and I could see it happening, we would be able to keep all our picks and be aggressive in free agency so I could see it working if he's healthy. Its not my favorite option but if the guy regains his arm strength then we'll be better, we have the draft picks and cap room to improve the OL and WR corp to help him out.
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Old 02-06-2012, 01:56 PM
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Just saw that myself and I could see it happening, we would be able to keep all our picks and be aggressive in free agency so I could see it working if he's healthy. Its not my favorite option but if the guy regains his arm strength then we'll be better, we have the draft picks and cap room to improve the OL and WR corp to help him out.
my thoughts exactly...
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Old 02-06-2012, 02:06 PM
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I Think the giants winning the SB yesterday helped the skins in getting manning here if he's healthy and wants to come.he'll definitly want to one up eli,and he'd get that chance two times a season,and may put the nfc east back as the league's dominant division it was in the 1980s and 1990s.
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Just saw that myself and I could see it happening, we would be able to keep all our picks and be aggressive in free agency so I could see it working if he's healthy. Its not my favorite option but if the guy regains his arm strength then we'll be better, we have the draft picks and cap room to improve the OL and WR corp to help him out.
If they do that, its a big step in the right direction(if they team Peyton with a developmental QB to be his apprentice). If they decide that signing Peyton is all they have to do to fix the offense and keep piling draft picks into the defense, the effect will be muted. Even with Peyton, the skins still need 2 WRs(a burner and a big flanker), a TE to replace Davis or Cooley, two OGs, 2 OTs(if they dump Cheech) and an OC to replace Monty if he walks.
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the effect will be muted
in other words,will be the league's longest running cluster**ck,right?
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I would have to think that they draft a QB in this draft whether they pick up a FA QB or not.
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Just saw that myself and I could see it happening, we would be able to keep all our picks and be aggressive in free agency so I could see it working if he's healthy. Its not my favorite option but if the guy regains his arm strength then we'll be better, we have the draft picks and cap room to improve the OL and WR corp to help him out.
The fact is that you are going to have to sign him without knowing if his arm strength will ever come back. This is just crazy. Snyder must be channeling through you guys. It will be like rewinding a decade. It will be a circus show at redskins park surrounding one player, not the TEAM we need to build. That is not the environment we need to move forward with.

Let the dolphins have him.
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Old 02-06-2012, 03:42 PM
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The fact is that you are going to have to sign him without knowing if his arm strength will ever come back. This is just crazy. Snyder must be channeling through you guys. It will be like rewinding a decade. It will be a circus show at redskins park surrounding one player, not the TEAM we need to build. That is not the environment we need to move forward with.

Let the dolphins have him.
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They went 10-6 in 2010. I would kill to have a 10-6 season here and win the division.
So best case scenario you get a 10-6 season then what? The team needs a long term answer and being closer to the top of the draft, as they are now, presents the best odds and cheapest avenue with which to address that spot.

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Framework and system in Indy? Peyton MADE that system in Indy, lol. Did that system or framework help Orlovsky? Painter? Collins? That system is Peyton.
That's an oversimplification and if you think it's that cut and dry then there's not much else to discuss.

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Signing Peyton and drafting a QB in the 2nd or 3rd is not doing anything to our franchise. RGIII and Luck will be gone by the 6th pick. We going to draft Tannehill @ 6? Doubt it. We would be drafting a QB there anyways.
If this team feels it necessary to go after a FA QB (Flynn, Manning, Orton) then Peyton is the easy answer. Perhaps they do so feeling that they can get a mid-round guy (Foles/Cousings/Osweiler/Wilson)that will emerge after some time sitting behind him, and if that's how it shakes out then I'm hopeful they get it right. Typically mid-round QB's don't pan out so this course statistically would result in a short term rental of Peyton without a real answer at QB.

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IMO, there is not a QB after the top 2 that can start day one. Of course a Dalton or someone can always happen, but do you honestly think that that luck can happen here in DC? Do you have faith in our system to think that would happen here? I highly doubt it.
I don't believe in nonsense like curses affecting teams. Numerous factors play into a successful team building process and high quality players emerging and I do think that this staff/system can produce that. If they feel so lacking in their ability to find a QB and instead have to fall back on a broken/breaking down legend (to some degree for the second time) then that speaks volumes.

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Get a Vet and groom your future behind him. Just like Brees did, just like Rodgers did. That's how it should be.
Ideally, but this team has a lot of needs. I'm not 100% against Peyton because it would allow them to fix a lot of other holes, whereas a trade up would not, but I'd prefer they try to fix the massive problem at QB with a lasting answer. I just don't think Peyton's health will make him long for whatever team he chooses, if he's even able to get back on the field. I also don't know why he'd want to come to the Redskins when there are other teams much closer to a real run that he could go to.

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If we go out and sign Orton as our starter, I will be upset. He would put this franchise back. I would not have been opposed to it last offseason, but definitely not this year.
Orton sucks, is marginally better than Rex and offers little more than some good optional comedy about his neck beard.
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If they do that, its a big step in the right direction(if they team Peyton with a developmental QB to be his apprentice). If they decide that signing Peyton is all they have to do to fix the offense and keep piling draft picks into the defense, the effect will be muted. Even with Peyton, the skins still need 2 WRs(a burner and a big flanker), a TE to replace Davis or Cooley, two OGs, 2 OTs(if they dump Cheech) and an OC to replace Monty if he walks.
Id like Blackmon at 6 and Weeden in the 2nd if we do sign Peyton, still I'd think he'd prefer the Dolphins but who knows.

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The fact is that you are going to have to sign him without knowing if his arm strength will ever come back. This is just crazy. Snyder must be channeling through you guys. It will be like rewinding a decade. It will be a circus show at redskins park surrounding one player, not the TEAM we need to build. That is not the environment we need to move forward with.

Let the dolphins have him.
Like I said it isnt my favorite option but neither would parting with multiple 1sts and 2nds. I was kinda on the Flynn bandwagon and for keeping the picks, slightly over RGIII but Im not sure what the plan is anymore lol.
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Old 02-06-2012, 04:27 PM
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Id like Blackmon at 6 and Weeden in the 2nd if we do sign Peyton, still I'd think he'd prefer the Dolphins but who knows.
I have a feeling that the skins could drop down to 15 and still get Blackmon at the end of the day. There's been a lot of chatter about how the scouts don't think that much of him.
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So best case scenario you get a 10-6 season then what? The team needs a long term answer and being closer to the top of the draft, as they are now, presents the best odds and cheapest avenue with which to address that spot.



That's an oversimplification and if you think it's that cut and dry then there's not much else to discuss.



If this team feels it necessary to go after a FA QB (Flynn, Manning, Orton) then Peyton is the easy answer. Perhaps they do so feeling that they can get a mid-round guy (Foles/Cousings/Osweiler/Wilson)that will emerge after some time sitting behind him, and if that's how it shakes out then I'm hopeful they get it right. Typically mid-round QB's don't pan out so this course statistically would result in a short term rental of Peyton without a real answer at QB.



I don't believe in nonsense like curses affecting teams. Numerous factors play into a successful team building process and high quality players emerging and I do think that this staff/system can produce that. If they feel so lacking in their ability to find a QB and instead have to fall back on a broken/breaking down legend (to some degree for the second time) then that speaks volumes.



Ideally, but this team has a lot of needs. I'm not 100% against Peyton because it would allow them to fix a lot of other holes, whereas a trade up would not, but I'd prefer they try to fix the massive problem at QB with a lasting answer. I just don't think Peyton's health will make him long for whatever team he chooses, if he's even able to get back on the field. I also don't know why he'd want to come to the Redskins when there are other teams much closer to a real run that he could go to.



Orton sucks, is marginally better than Rex and offers little more than some good optional comedy about his neck beard.
I'm just saying that I would rather have Peyton if we go FA wise at QB and draft a QB in the 2nd, 3rd or 4th. I'd choose that route over and over again rather than giving up picks for RGIII. I feel like that would set us back even more, especially with the amount of holes we have.
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Id like Blackmon at 6 and Weeden in the 2nd if we do sign Peyton, still I'd think he'd prefer the Dolphins but who knows.



Like I said it isnt my favorite option but neither would parting with multiple 1sts and 2nds. I was kinda on the Flynn bandwagon and for keeping the picks, slightly over RGIII but Im not sure what the plan is anymore lol.
You can't draft Weeden and sit him for 3 or 4 years behind Manning. If you draft Weeden in the 2nd round then he must start due to his age. I would much rather just take Tannehill who flashed quite a bit of ability.
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PEYTON IS NOT COMING TO THE NFC EAST. BECAUSE ELI IS IN THE NFC EAST.

PEYTON WILL BE A DOLPHIN. THEY HAVE A SOLID DEFENSE SOME SOLID OFFENSIVE WEAPONS.

By some miracle Peyton does come to DC I would welcome it. (I remeber seeing something on the NFL Network about John Elway calling a play in the huddle that wasnt even part of the gameplan but led to a superbowl victory)Only Manning can come here and do things like that. Getting Manning currently doesnt cost us any draft picks. Some of you are suggesting using the 2nd rd pick on a QB still I say no. To many needs to use that pick for someone who will not start for three years. We have been 20 years without a superbowl I would be all for sacrificing 5 years to Give Peyton the best chance possible to win 1 out of 3 superbowls. I dont think that not drafting a QB in the 2nd rd puts us back 5 years.

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I have a feeling that the skins could drop down to 15 and still get Blackmon at the end of the day. There's been a lot of chatter about how the scouts don't think that much of him.
There's zero chance of Blackon being there at 15. The only thing that is going to keep him out of the top 5 is a terrible forty time.
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