Wizards: 2012 NBA Draft Lottery/NBA Draft

[Sean T RIP]

Originally Posted by cal_junior

The Wiz are instantly a better team with this trade - Lewis is terrible and this means they'll be getting rid of Blatche via Amnesty. My worry is their salary cap situation looks a little bleak for the next few years. They're going to be paying Okafor, Nene, Wall and Ariza a lot of money for the 13-14 season.

It also tells us the Wiz are taking Bradley Beal at No. 3, and I suppose one could debate whether that's a good thing or not.

there a better team how? exactly who is gonna score on this team? The money they are gonna give Okafor and Ariza could have been spent alot more wisely

[Sean T RIP]

Getting rid of Lewis was nice but the money could have been better spent...

[tarheel723]

Originally Posted by Sean T RIP

there a better team how? exactly who is gonna score on this team? The money they are gonna give Okafor and Ariza could have been spent alot more wisely

You're right on your point about scoring........ But here's the thing......... It's another great way to bring a GOOD atmosphere in the Wizards LR, and also, Nene, Okafor, and Ariza will be there to teach our younger players, and it's especially great if you can get younger players who can score but currently suck at defense, because the three of them are great at defense, and they can teach and mature those players on defense so that we have a good, balanced, all-around team. IT'S ALL A PART OF REBUILDING!

[Sean T RIP]

So we will have the most well behaved losuy team in the nba

[cal_junior]

Originally Posted by Sean T RIP

there a better team how? exactly who is gonna score on this team? The money they are gonna give Okafor and Ariza could have been spent alot more wisely

They improved their front line and got better defensively. I'd rather pay Okafor and Ariza than Rashard Lewis.

[Sean T RIP]

Originally Posted by cal_junior

They improved their front line and got better defensively. I'd rather pay Okafor and Ariza than Rashard Lewis.

I agree with that but those two take up 21 MILLION just nexy year could have done alot more with that money

[cal_junior]

Originally Posted by Sean T RIP

I agree with that but those two take up 21 MILLION just nexy year could have done alot more with that money

I doubt teams were lining up to take Rashard Lewis off their hands.

[Emmanouel8]

I havent a had a chance to look at the move carefully but it looks like Ernie wanted to extend the $20 million in cap space another year. For what i have no idea.

I don't think the players we got are that great but a short term improvement over Rashard. We needed a ferrari and got 2 toyota camry's, one with 100k mile the other with 40k. I think if your going to spend $20 million it should be for something more than 2 camry's.

The wiz will be in the lottery again next year, that's clear.

[tarheel723]

I just read this article on Bullets Forever:

http://www.bulletsforever.com/2012/6...arrison-barnes

Obviously, like said before, the top guy on the Wizards board is Beal.......... And again, like I said, the obvious makes it even more obvious that certain teams are going to try to trade up and get him (unless the Bobcats take him themselves-- unlikely), so I'm glad that we have a backup plan. However, the backup plan does surprise me a little bit.

I was originally hoping that the Wizards would get Thomas Robinson, but obviously now with this trade, that's not going to happen........... And instead of Michael Kidd-Gilchrist as our SF backup plan, we have Harrison Barnes. As a UNC fan, obviously I would be super excited to see the superstar from my college team go to my pro team, but, I don't know if I would take Barnes over MKG other than the scoring if it came down to that. Here's the deal with Barnes-- he's a great scorer, but he has to have the ball in his hands to do that......... He can't create his own shot, and that's an essential skill that one needs to learn if they want to become a superstar in the NBA........ It can be learned, but it'll worry me a little bit until he were to learn how to create his own shot. But, we do need the scoring.

But, here's the difference between MKG and Barnes....... Barnes specializes on Offense, and MKG specializes on Defense. For teams in other divisions than ours, heck yes Barnes would be a better prospect than MKG. But, we have to face LeBron multiple times each year (assuming we do get better, otherwise they might sit him when they play us), and quite simply we need to DEFEND HIM! Defense is something that really is learned naturally........ Either you're a good defender or you aren't. Not that Barnes is a terrible defender, but MKG is miles ahead of Barnes. Offense can be learned in a season or two, but defense like I said comes naturally, either that or is something that takes a very long time to learn. I would take the defense over the offense in this situation...... Like someone said earlier in this thread, all we are right now is defense... But, again, offense can be learned fairly quickly (if there is commitment), and if we already have the defense there and can learn offense, then, quite frankly, this team can be a contender is just a few years.

[warpaint]

Originally Posted by tarheel723

I just read this article on Bullets Forever:

http://www.bulletsforever.com/2012/6...arrison-barnes

Obviously, like said before, the top guy on the Wizards board is Beal.......... And again, like I said, the obvious makes it even more obvious that certain teams are going to try to trade up and get him (unless the Bobcats take him themselves-- unlikely), so I'm glad that we have a backup plan. However, the backup plan does surprise me a little bit.

I was originally hoping that the Wizards would get Thomas Robinson, but obviously now with this trade, that's not going to happen........... And instead of Michael Kidd-Gilchrist as our SF backup plan, we have Harrison Barnes. As a UNC fan, obviously I would be super excited to see the superstar from my college team go to my pro team, but, I don't know if I would take Barnes over MKG other than the scoring if it came down to that. Here's the deal with Barnes-- he's a great scorer, but he has to have the ball in his hands to do that......... He can't create his own shot, and that's an essential skill that one needs to learn if they want to become a superstar in the NBA........ It can be learned, but it'll worry me a little bit until he were to learn how to create his own shot. But, we do need the scoring.

But, here's the difference between MKG and Barnes....... Barnes specializes on Offense, and MKG specializes on Defense. For teams in other divisions than ours, heck yes Barnes would be a better prospect than MKG. But, we have to face LeBron multiple times each year (assuming we do get better, otherwise they might sit him when they play us), and quite simply we need to DEFEND HIM! Defense is something that really is learned naturally........ Either you're a good defender or you aren't. Not that Barnes is a terrible defender, but MKG is miles ahead of Barnes. Offense can be learned in a season or two, but defense like I said comes naturally, either that or is something that takes a very long time to learn. I would take the defense over the offense in this situation...... Like someone said earlier in this thread, all we are right now is defense... But, again, offense can be learned fairly quickly (if there is commitment), and if we already have the defense there and can learn offense, then, quite frankly, this team can be a contender is just a few years.

john wall cant shoot from 3 point area, vesley can only dunk, as stated by many, wizards biggest need is for an outside scorer, why would we want mkg
when he cant shoot ? i would love to see either barnes or beal playing the sg position for the wizards, barnes has the tools to become a super star imo.
and by the way big tar heel fan here .

[cal_junior]

Originally Posted by warpaint

john wall cant shoot from 3 point area, vesley can only dunk, as stated by many, wizards biggest need is for an outside scorer, why would we want mkg
when he cant shoot ? i would love to see either barnes or beal playing the sg position for the wizards, barnes has the tools to become a super star imo.
and by the way big tar heel fan here .

The pick is going to be Beal if he's on the board. I'm okay with Barnes if Charlotte does something weird or somebody trades up. The Wiz desperately need scoring punch on the perimeter.

[Sean T RIP]

Originally Posted by cal_junior

I doubt teams were lining up to take Rashard Lewis off their hands.

Could have used the amenisty on Lewis and spent the money on free agents

[cal_junior]

Originally Posted by Sean T RIP

Could have used the amenisty on Lewis and spent the money on free agents

But then you're stuck with team cancer Andray Blatche who has absolutely zero trade value. This way you can get rid of both.

[tarheel723]

Originally Posted by warpaint

john wall cant shoot from 3 point area, vesley can only dunk, as stated by many, wizards biggest need is for an outside scorer, why would we want mkg
when he cant shoot ? i would love to see either barnes or beal playing the sg position for the wizards, barnes has the tools to become a super star imo.
and by the way big tar heel fan here .

But, like I said, offense can be learned very quickly with commitment (which I think John Wall has), but defense is a very hard thing to learn......... John Wall said he would be working on his jumper over the offseason, instead of doing charities all summer; and yes, I think Vesely was a bit of a bust. Wouldn't you want someone to come in that's already skilled on defense and can work on offense instead of an offensive guy who isn't exactly the best at defense? I think if you get a guy that can really improve on the offensive side who already has masterful skills on defense, we could really not just be a playoff contender in a couple years, but in 4-6 years, we can be a TITLE contender.

[Moe]

I don't really get the crisicisms of this trade. They unloaded a massive contract, can now unload Blatche as needed, and picked up a double/double guy in Oak and a competent (if inconsistent) scorer in Ariza. Oak provides coverage for Nene, who's physically shaky and after this year both can shopped to teams looking for a one year contract if needed.

I don't know, I just don't see any move in free agency that would've been much better and keeping/amnestying Lewis was pointless. At the end of the day if Wall doesn't significantly improve and they can't start hitting their picks then no moves will help much.