Article on the Visor Boy

TexSkin · #1 04-09-2004, 08:55 AM

http://www.timesdispatch.com/servlet...74776516&path=

I dont feel sorry for the guy. He stunk it up and deserves the critsism his former players are giving him.

SkinsCT · #2 04-09-2004, 09:12 AM

I haven't read any flat-out criticism of the OBC, all I've seen is comments like the one from Mitchell saying that the team lacked discipline, etc. His two years here detract from his coaching career, but you have to respect what he accomplished prior to coming here as well as admire his decision to step down when he knew he was in over his head.

smoak · #3 04-09-2004, 09:30 AM

i definitely do not feel bad for him, but i always stuck up for him when people attacked his character. he is obviously a good coach, he just didn't get it done at the NFL level. i think he is a good person and i wish him well, but i am also VERY grateful his time here is over.

smoak · #4 04-09-2004, 09:55 AM

i also hope he gets another shot at coaching in the NFL.

hail2skins · #5 04-09-2004, 10:05 AM

The thing I didn't like is he didn't/wouldn't adjust his offense to the NFL. He did try to treat the players as adults but we know everyone can't be treated that way.

GoDannyBoy · #6 04-09-2004, 10:08 AM

I liked Spurrier. I think he miscalculated the competition in the NFL. The players and coaches are all so close in skill that the little things make the difference. I also agree with the Times and that maybe he expected that he would not have to babysit his players. It does seem that a little of that is needed in the NFL.

I wish him well.

I am glad that Dan Snyder got Joe Gibbs to come out of retirement. Those games last year were painful to watch!

Spence · #7 04-09-2004, 10:14 AM

I don't feel sorry for Spurrier either. He was handsomely compensated for his work with the Redskins. He wasn't a good NFL head coach. That's okay. Plenty of decent people wouldn't be able to make it work in the NFL. I hope he returns to coach college football because I never saw a team more fun to watch than his Florida Gators.

SkinsGuru · #8 04-09-2004, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by smoakme

i also hope he gets another shot at coaching in the NFL.

Yeah . . . the NFL needs another Cardinals

ShaggySkins · #9 04-09-2004, 11:41 AM

One thing I will say about Spurrier is atleast he left and didn't try to hold the franchise hostage over his contract. He knew he wasn't getting the job done and instead of continuing to let this franchise and fans suffer he stepped down. I don't think a lot of Coaches in any league would have walked away from 15 million because they weren't getting the job done.

BandWagon · #10 04-09-2004, 11:46 AM

Yep, out matched and wasn't willing to put in the time. Also wondered why in the world he never seemed to have an answer....now we know he didn't. Got to respect him for stepping aside though...the trainwreck wasn't going anywhere.

Axegrinder · #11 04-09-2004, 12:54 PM

I agree with most of the opinions on this one.His stubborness did him in.At least he stopped the bleeding from the huge whole left in his coaching reputation.Everyone paid a price for this debacle.

RedskinsVision · #12 04-09-2004, 01:21 PM

being nice and blissful won't get you anywhere in the NFL. at least he learned that and bailed. can't feel sorry for a man that made $10 million for 2 years of mediocre coaching. he can enjoy that money playing more golf. how can you come into the professional ranks thinking the college way works? no matter how successful you were.. it's like a pre-school or kindergarten teacher being frisked away to become a university professor.. sure they're all teachers.. but you can't go into a college classroom w/ your kindergarten experience and knowledge and think you can make it w/ out adjusting to the older and more mature students.

TexSkin · #13 04-09-2004, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by RedskinsVision

being nice and blissful won't get you anywhere in the NFL. at least he learned that and bailed. can't feel sorry for a man that made $10 million for 2 years of mediocre coaching. he can enjoy that money playing more golf. how can you come into the professional ranks thinking the college way works? no matter how successful you were.. it's like a pre-school or kindergarten teacher being frisked away to become a university professor.. sure they're all teachers.. but you can't go into a college classroom w/ your kindergarten experience and knowledge and think you can make it w/ out adjusting to the older and more mature students.

Actually the way the some of todays NFL players act makes you think that analogy would be better suited of a College Proffessor went to teach kinder. He treated them like adults not understanding they are a buch of babies.

RedskinsVision · #14 04-09-2004, 02:49 PM

haha.. yes you do have a point about today's athlete.. hopefully gibbs won't give them any nap time during class

virginiaboy · #15 04-10-2004, 08:19 AM

I don't agree that all fault lies with Coach Spurrier. I still feel like personnel was the biggest problem last year. Take for example the running back position. Decimated by injuries, we end up with Rock Cartwright as a starting tailback. God bless him, but I don't think he's a starting tailback in the NFL. Did Coach Spurrier have someone better on the bench? Was Sultan McCullough plan B? Didn't Cerrato and Snyder make personnel decisions during the Spurrier era? (Example -- decision on Wuerfell made against Spurrier's wishes).
I think injuries at defensive line (see Brandon Noble) also had major impact. Also personnel decisions (see Bruce Smith) had effect on end result at defensive line. Injury at quarterback left us with the chosen backup (Rob Johnson) who apparently couldn't do the job because we traded him or released him. That's a personnel decision that to my knowledge does not rest with Spurrier. On comes Hasselback who, all things considered, did a miraculous job, and I think you'd have to give Coach Spurrier some credit for that.
As for the offensive line, can you fault the coach? It's not like he coached them how to jump offsides? He dealt with it (i.e. bringing in refs at practice) and it became less of an issue as the season went on. As for protection problems, I don't think this was the first time Coach Spurrier had ever seen blitzes. I throw out the thought that maybe some of the players are not as good or smart as we think.
It appears that Coach Gibbs has more control over personnel. I hope it works for him. As for Coach Spurrier and the article, I think it raises some good points about the man outside of football life. I just don't think that the failure ascribed to him can be placed 100% on his own job performance.