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Old 07-06-2004, 06:06 PM
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Why don't we explore other deals for Sameuls and not only focus on Ogun. Other teams are in desperate need of LT and have d-linemen and picks to give.

Cleveland for DT Gerrad Warren and 1{05} or 2{05}

New Orleans for DE Charles Grant and 2{05}

I know Warren hasn't lived up to expectations but he had 40 tackles and 5.5 sacks last year.

Charles Grant is young and had 10 sacks last year, but with Will Smith and Darren Howard in the mix who knows what the Saints are thinking.

Any other ideas on possible Sameuls trade scenarios.

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Old 07-06-2004, 07:20 PM
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Yeah. The Giants are in need up front. Or do we want to face Samuels twice a year? And the only thing we want from them probably are draft choices.
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Old 07-06-2004, 07:25 PM
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he knows too much to send somewhere within the division. i hope ware cant take any info with him somewhere. someone in the division might want to pick his brain.
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Old 07-06-2004, 07:29 PM
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Not that a deal won't get done that we like, but I don't see us coming out on top of any sort of trade at this point. Not to burst anyone's bubble, but to think that their is a team out their who wants to help the Washington Redskins is silly. Our team has done a 180 from where it was last year and people are scared, already. I don't see anyone finding it in their favor to help us out. Don't let me spoil the hope of the "ever optimists" though.
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Old 07-06-2004, 07:56 PM
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I wouldn't trade Samuels for anything less than a top tier DE or a lot of high draft picks. But, he's not worth it! I know, but that's what it will take for me to trade him. He may not be worth it now, but when he, Portis, and whichever QB of ours is eating Pineapple in February, Mr. Samuels will have played a large role. Mark my words.
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Old 07-06-2004, 08:02 PM
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I wouldn't trade Samuels for anything less than a top tier DE or a lot of high draft picks. But, he's not worth it! I know, but that's what it will take for me to trade him. He may not be worth it now, but when he, Portis, and whichever QB of ours is eating Pineapple in February, Mr. Samuels will have played a large role. Mark my words.
I'll see your Idea of Samuels in Hawaii, and raise you to the notion that he will be our best OL by next year.
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Old 07-06-2004, 08:07 PM
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Pro Bowl LTs don't grow on trees, so i don't think that a team would be doing us that big of a favor in taking Samuels.

Player for player trades are extremely rare, that's why i don't see anything going on other than Wale from Miami.

Those aren't bad options Conrad, but I think it's Wale or bust. I don't see the FO bending over backwards to get rid of Samuels or to add another player. But if Wale wants out of Miami badly enough, you can bet that Snyder will make another pitch.
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Yeah. The Giants are in need up front. Or do we want to face Samuels twice a year? And the only thing we want from them probably are draft choices.
Draft choices from the Giants?!?! Are you kidding?!?! For what draft, 2020?


Maybe a pick and Strahan. He's not that happy with the rebuilding going on up there.
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It's worth a look to shop him around, but we might as well keep him this year. Screw it.
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Old 07-06-2004, 09:14 PM
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I see no need to trade him right now. I just do not see it.
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Old 07-06-2004, 09:44 PM
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Does he have any value next year? I think that everyone knows that we are shopping him and would have already given us there best offers. My guess is the offers were not that good or he would have been out of here during the draft.

Kind of sad to see that there is no interest in Trotter. I think that goes to show that teams tend to like what they have instead of an unknown player. If were don't do anything before camp I would say stay with the guys we have and play out the year. I don't think that we will do that bad with what we got.
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Why don't we explore other deals for Sameuls and not only focus on Ogun. Other teams are in desperate need of LT and have d-linemen and picks to give.

Cleveland for DT Gerrad Warren and 1{05} or 2{05}

New Orleans for DE Charles Grant and 2{05}

I know Warren hasn't lived up to expectations but he had 40 tackles and 5.5 sacks last year.

Charles Grant is young and had 10 sacks last year, but with Will Smith and Darren Howard in the mix who knows what the Saints are thinking.

Any other ideas on possible Sameuls trade scenarios.
You would be asking teams to solve one problem by creating another. Good DE are worth their weight in gold.
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You would be asking teams to solve one problem by creating another. Good DE are worth their weight in gold.
very true.
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I see no need to trade him right now. I just do not see it.
EXACTLY...... let's work on Team Development!!!!
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Old 07-07-2004, 09:19 AM
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Does anyone which came first...us asking about ogunleye, or miami asking about samuels?
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