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Old 07-21-2004, 08:55 AM
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BAGHDAD, Iraq - A roadside bomb exploded north of Baghdad early Wednesday, killing one U.S. 1st Infantry Division soldier and bringing to 900 the number of U.S. military forces killed since the beginning of military operations in March 2003.

Maj. Neal O’Brien of the 1st Infantry Division said the most recent soldier killed was on patrol in a Bradley fighting vehicle in Duluiyah, 45 miles north of Baghdad, when the bomb detonated shortly after midnight Wednesday.

On Tuesday, two U.S. Marines and two U.S. soldiers were killed in action in Anbar Province, a Sunni-dominated area west of Baghdad.
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Old 07-21-2004, 09:27 AM
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That's too sad ... what's the count AFTER Bush declared the war over, my guess 850 - anything seem wrong here???
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And the numbers begin to climb, again?
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Old 07-21-2004, 09:40 AM
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Is this were we are heading, again?

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Statistical information about casualties of the Vietnam conflict
Reference Report #18:
CACCF Record Counts by Year of Death or Declaration of Death (as of 12/98)
Year of Death or Declaration of Death - Number of Records
1956-1960 9
1961 16
1962 52
1963 118
1964 206
1965 1,863
1966 6,143
1967 11,153
1968 16,592
1969 11,616
1970 6,081
1971 2,357
1972 641
1973 168
1974 178
1975 161
1976 77
1977 96
1978 447
1979 148
1980 26
1981-1990 34
1991-1998 11
Total 58,193
Record counts provided for informational purposes only, not official statistics

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Old 07-21-2004, 09:43 AM
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While it continues to amaze me how few lives are lost compared to past wars, it burns me up to know that these 900 lives have been lost because of a show of machismo and bravado on the part of our president and his cronies. I can think of an almost infinite amount of things worse than dying for this country, but that people have given lives due to some perceived pissing match by the commander in chief? I think I'll pass on that.
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Where have they all gone?
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It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain, that this nation under God shall have a new birth of freedom, and that government of the people, by the people, for the people shall not perish from the earth.

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Have 900 American servicemen and women died in vain?

Where are the field commanders who know how to defeat insurgent warfare?
Where are the diplomats who know how to broker a settlement of hostilities? Where are the men who can begin the rebuilding process? Where is the exit strategy?
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Andrew, that's a good point about Vietnam casualties. Defenders of the Iraq War often note that we suffered far more casualties during a year in Vietnam, but they are comparing the first year of Iraq with the middle and later years of Vietnam. When you compare the first year of Iraq with the first few years of Vietnam, Iraq comes out as even more bloody.
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Andrew, that's a good point about Vietnam casualties. Defenders of the Iraq War often note that we suffered far more casualties during a year in Vietnam, but they are comparing the first year of Iraq with the middle and later years of Vietnam. When you compare the first year of Iraq with the first few years of Vietnam, Iraq comes out as even more bloody.
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I always agree with you, but your logic here is suspect. We did not have anywhere near the number of troops (ooops, I mean advisors) on the ground in the first few years of our involvement in Vietnam as we do in Iraq.

Would not be surprised, however, if terrorist activity due to our pissing off the world adds a few tens of thousand more casualties to the total over the next decade or two.
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It's 903 now. 3 more were killed when their helicopter shot down
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Old 07-21-2004, 12:29 PM
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There's no doubt we have more troops in Iraq now than we did in Vietnam until 1965. [At the end of '65, the U.S. had about 184,000 troops in Vietnam, if memory serves. We currently have about 140,000 in Iraq.] I was not writing about casualties per any unit of American troops, but rather merely the overall casualty level. The U.S. gradually escalated a military buildup in Vietnam, whereas in Iraq we came in with a large force and, contrary to Pentagon plans to have the total number of troops under 30,000 by now, we still have a large force in country.
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