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08-04-2004, 07:31 AM
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08-04-2004, 07:36 AM
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Having now read it, it's a refreshing article. Good Job Len. I owe you a can of lard.
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08-04-2004, 07:42 AM
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3/4 of the article was saying how bad our line play was last year. i think we know that Vito, go eat another cow and write something worth my time.
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08-04-2004, 07:46 AM
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Can't disagree.
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08-04-2004, 07:53 AM
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You hate to rip anyone, but it was crazy," Jansen said. "I mean, I'm not the most veteran lineman in the league, but I think I've been around long enough to know what the heck I'm talking about, so I would suggest certain things and they were ignored or dismissed. You'd say something to a coach and he'd just walk away. That's why it's so refreshing now to be in a system that's sound and that plays to our strengths.
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This was why I liked the article. You can see the sentiment that line is actually excited and finally letting go of the old guard. It also should lend support for Samuels for those who believe he's only as good as a second stringer. If Lenny can find where the fault lies, surely others can too.
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08-04-2004, 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by SkinsKY
This was why I liked the article. You can see the sentiment that line is actually excited and finally letting go of the old guard. It also should lend support for Samuels for those who believe he's only as good as a second stringer. If Lenny can find where the fault lies, surely others can too.
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what a great quote from jansen. it gives us some insight into what was going on last year. these guys knew more than the coaches, and that cant be good. plus their suggestions were ignored. even worse. he's saying basically that they are totally buying into this new system. sometimes you have to experience the worst to fully appreciate the best.
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08-04-2004, 08:22 AM
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Len P. is a complete jackass.....
This is what he said about ST yesterday:
"Touted as the best safety prospect to enter the league since Ronnie Lott in 1981, Taylor to this point has been unable to dislodge little-used third-year veteran Andre Lott, whose resume includes zero career starts, from the top of the free safety depth chart. He has looked ragged and confused at time in camp and hasn't made many plays."
This is what he said THE SAME dAY about the new Safeties practicing at Falcons camp:
"It's probably not fair to evaluate players on two practices, one of which wasn't even in pads, and safety is a difficult position to assess in camp anyway."
Apparently, the safety position is hard to critique in training camp, especially after only 2 practices and if those practices are not live. However, this general rule does no apply to the Redskins; here, it is clear that ST sucks.

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08-04-2004, 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Redskinfan28
This is what he said about ST yesterday:
"Touted as the best safety prospect to enter the league since Ronnie Lott in 1981, Taylor to this point has been unable to dislodge little-used third-year veteran Andre Lott, whose resume includes zero career starts, from the top of the free safety depth chart. He has looked ragged and confused at time in camp and hasn't made many plays."
This is what he said THE SAME dAY about the new Safeties practicing at Falcons camp:
"It's probably not fair to evaluate players on two practices, one of which wasn't even in pads, and safety is a difficult position to assess in camp anyway."
Apparently, the safety position is hard to critique in training camp, especially after only 2 practices and if those practices are not live. However, this general rule does no apply to the Redskins; here, it is clear that ST sucks.

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Lenny P is an a$$, but he may have a point as well. I think Taylor needs to concentrate on terminology, NFL schemes and less worry about his agent status.
There will be negative articles come out once in awhile, and personally, i don't view all of them as Skins bashing. This team has proven a big fat ZERO, the past 7 years, and despite Gibbs being back, respect is earned, not just given.
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08-04-2004, 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Redskinfan28
This is what he said about ST yesterday:
"Touted as the best safety prospect to enter the league since Ronnie Lott in 1981, Taylor to this point has been unable to dislodge little-used third-year veteran Andre Lott, whose resume includes zero career starts, from the top of the free safety depth chart. He has looked ragged and confused at time in camp and hasn't made many plays."
This is what he said THE SAME dAY about the new Safeties practicing at Falcons camp:
"It's probably not fair to evaluate players on two practices, one of which wasn't even in pads, and safety is a difficult position to assess in camp anyway."
Apparently, the safety position is hard to critique in training camp, especially after only 2 practices and if those practices are not live. However, this general rule does no apply to the Redskins; here, it is clear that ST sucks.

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His articles make my eyes burn...... 
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08-04-2004, 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by PennSkinsFan
Lenny P is an a$$, but he may have a point as well. I think Taylor needs to concentrate on terminology, NFL schemes and less worry about his agent status.
There will be negative articles come out once in awhile, and personally, i don't view all of them as Skins bashing. This team has proven a big fat ZERO, the past 7 years, and despite Gibbs being back, respect is earned, not just given.
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You are missing the focused point of the post. On one hand, he is offering a critique of ST (probably without even seeing him) after two practices, one of which was only shoulder pads and not live. Then, when in Atlanta, he states that you can't really, and its not fair to, critique a player after two practices, especially at the safety position.
Len P. is a jackass because he is hypocritical and talks out of both sides of his mouth; not because he doesn't like the Redskins.
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08-04-2004, 08:52 AM
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He seems to like Buges. Reading this artical I got to thinking...... Buges in the HOF. But most of the time fat boy kisses up to the Redskin haters out there.
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08-04-2004, 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Redskinfan28
You are missing the focused point of the post. On one hand, he is offering a critique of ST (probably without even seeing him) after two practices, one of which was only shoulder pads and not live. Then, when in Atlanta, he states that you can't really, and its not fair to, critique a player after two practices, especially at the safety position.
Len P. is a jackass because he is hypocritical and talks out of both sides of his mouth; not because he doesn't like the Redskins.
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Nah, i got the point. The point I am trying to make is, there will be more negative articles to come. The publicity of Snyder off-seasons and subsequents failures make the Redskins a great target for critcism, on every ground. They will dispel that by putting words into actions and racking up big W's!
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08-04-2004, 10:01 AM
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He was writing an article on how bad Spurriers blocking assignments and listening abilities were and how they affected the lines overall play(which was poor due to moronic blocking assignments). I liked the article good read.
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08-04-2004, 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Redskinfan28
This is what he said about ST yesterday:
"Touted as the best safety prospect to enter the league since Ronnie Lott in 1981, Taylor to this point has been unable to dislodge little-used third-year veteran Andre Lott, whose resume includes zero career starts, from the top of the free safety depth chart. He has looked ragged and confused at time in camp and hasn't made many plays."
This is what he said THE SAME dAY about the new Safeties practicing at Falcons camp:
"It's probably not fair to evaluate players on two practices, one of which wasn't even in pads, and safety is a difficult position to assess in camp anyway."
Apparently, the safety position is hard to critique in training camp, especially after only 2 practices and if those practices are not live. However, this general rule does no apply to the Redskins; here, it is clear that ST sucks.

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I posted this in the latest Sean Taylor panic thread: Lennie P is hitting new lows.
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08-04-2004, 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by redwolf1218
what a great quote from jansen. it gives us some insight into what was going on last year. these guys knew more than the coaches, and that cant be good. plus their suggestions were ignored. even worse. he's saying basically that they are totally buying into this new system. sometimes you have to experience the worst to fully appreciate the best.
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Anyone who follows the Redskins know the line was not at fault last year, it was the schemes and the inability to adjust. That's why we are always so burned when we hear all these so called "pundits" talk about how awful the Redskins line is. Fatso is normally an ahole, but this time he got it right and it was a pretty insightful article.
Having said that the most important thing is what redwolf points out: These guys have TOTALLY bought in. That's where the greatness starts.
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