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01-24-2005, 06:21 PM
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Brady vs. Montana
I know this is a little early for a comparison between the two but many are claiming that Tom Brady is a modern day Joe Montana. IMO, Joe Montana had a better mix of receivers to work w/(Rice, Taylor, Clark, Craig (even though he was a running back) but he was a better QB. However, Brady is still young (27) and he has plenty of time to close the gap if he stays w/in the system. What is your take on this? Here are the stats to compare (not including playoffs):
Tom Brady:
64 games - 61.6% comp, 13,925 yds, 97TDs, 52Ints, 6.9 yds/pass, 87.5 rating
Joe Montana (not a full-time starter his rookie year and had a strike shortened '82 season:
72 games - 64% comp, 11,979yds, 78TDs, 44Ints, 7.3 yds/pass, 87.9 rating
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01-24-2005, 06:23 PM
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Normally I would shrug off a comparisson like this as typical sports media blowing things out of proportion... But in this case... Wow, it's hard to argue.
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01-24-2005, 06:24 PM
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3 Super Bowl wins (maybe) by the age of 27 and potentially 3 SB MVP's will put him in top 3 if he never plays another game. The guy is simply unflappable. I have never seen a QB so consistent.
He just flat out gets it done. And the fact that he doesn't have the supporting cast that Montana had makes it all the more impressive.
You will never hear me say anything bad about Tom Brady.
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01-24-2005, 06:35 PM
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You will never hear me say anything bad about Tom Brady.
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me neither (except that he needs to cut his hair)
i think if he wins another SB MVP, then the comparison will be justified.
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01-24-2005, 07:27 PM
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me neither (except that he needs to cut his hair) 
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i think if he wins another SB MVP, then the comparison will be justified.
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I'm a little skeptical with the comparison. I'm a HUGE Joe Montana fan. I really think that he is the greatest qb to have played the game. (though growing up I was in an environment which causes me to be biased). If Brady does win another SB MVP than he can be CONSIDERED to be compared to Joe. Till then... i just can't say he's up there yet.
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01-24-2005, 07:35 PM
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he would need to win two more SBs and have a ton of wins. But he is off to a Great start. The one thing that might make me lean towards Brady is this:
How much did the 49ers with Montana change?
How much did the Pats with Brady change?
The era of Free Agency changes everything.
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01-24-2005, 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Skinz4lyfe
I know this is a little early for a comparison between the two but many are claiming that Tom Brady is a modern day Joe Montana. IMO, Joe Montana had a better mix of receivers to work w/(Rice, Taylor, Clark, Craig (even though he was a running back) but he was a better QB. However, Brady is still young (27) and he has plenty of time to close the gap if he stays w/in the system. What is your take on this? Here are the stats to compare (not including playoffs):
Tom Brady:
64 games - 61.6% comp, 13,925 yds, 97TDs, 52Ints, 6.9 yds/pass, 87.5 rating
Joe Montana (not a full-time starter his rookie year and had a strike shortened '82 season:
72 games - 64% comp, 11,979yds, 78TDs, 44Ints, 7.3 yds/pass, 87.9 rating
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I've heard the comparison talk on the radio and it is very hard to argue against. Brady just does not get rattled. He is certainly like Joe in that respect. They both exude coolness. If Brady wins this year you can't deny the comparison.
Right now, I can't think of another QB in the league that I would rather have as a starter in a playoff game. I used to say the same thing about Montana back in the day. Brady just plays within the system, just like Montana did. That's why their numbers jive.
If he does it this year, it will be three out of four for Brady. Only Aikman has accomplished that...with more Offensive talent IMO. Brady is making history. I think he is a class act and I'll be rooting for him against the Eagles.
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01-24-2005, 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by PGiddy18
I'm a little skeptical with the comparison. I'm a HUGE Joe Montana fan. I really think that he is the greatest qb to have played the game. (though growing up I was in an environment which causes me to be biased). If Brady does win another SB MVP than he can be CONSIDERED to be compared to Joe. Till then... i just can't say he's up there yet.
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so what in your opinion, would it take for brady to be up in montana's league?
i think the fact that he is young and has already accomplished so much, is enough for the comparisons to begin. i remember last year, people were comparing brady to montana and i kind of laughed it off. now, im not sure those people arent on to something.....
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01-24-2005, 09:52 PM
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I dunno....Because I am old I am hesistant to place brady into the the Best ever category.
Some definitions are going to have to change...
Like 1000 yard runners are a dime a dozen so pro-bowl runners should be measured by 1400 yard seasons.
Hall of Fame numbers from Running Backs should be about 14K instead of 10K now.
Brady is an awesome QB, but I cannot place him past Bradshaw and Montana mentally because the game just seemed to be played at a higher level back then. Back when you could do everything short of pulling a handgun on a WR. Back when you could knock a QB into the middle of next week every other play without threat of deportation to North Korea.
I guess this is the first sign that I am old, but I just do not think Brady is all that great. I think he is very, very good but I think the words great are used a little too often. Heck Trent Dilfer has a Superbowl so please do not tell me he should be considered one of the greats.
I really think we need to re-adjust the standards here or a lot of lucky players who just happen to be in the right place at the right time will be considered best ever. I need more time and geritol to stew on this 
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01-24-2005, 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by LadyNRedskinsfan
so what in your opinion, would it take for brady to be up in montana's league?
i think the fact that he is young and has already accomplished so much, is enough for the comparisons to begin. i remember last year, people were comparing brady to montana and i kind of laughed it off. now, im not sure those people arent on to something.....
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i agree...comparisons should be drawn...its just hard to believe because he is so young...i just find it hard to think that any of the qbs are better than marino, elway, montana and young...the guys i grew up watching and are etched in my memory as legends
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01-24-2005, 11:01 PM
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Not yet, but getting closer every game he plays.
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01-25-2005, 12:25 AM
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This one is a doozy. I'll wait this one out and see what else Brady can do with his career. He's on the right track though. Boy, is he ever on the right track.
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01-25-2005, 01:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Jimreaper007
I dunno....Because I am old I am hesistant to place brady into the the Best ever category.
Some definitions are going to have to change...
Like 1000 yard runners are a dime a dozen so pro-bowl runners should be measured by 1400 yard seasons.
Hall of Fame numbers from Running Backs should be about 14K instead of 10K now.
Brady is an awesome QB, but I cannot place him past Bradshaw and Montana mentally because the game just seemed to be played at a higher level back then. Back when you could do everything short of pulling a handgun on a WR. Back when you could knock a QB into the middle of next week every other play without threat of deportation to North Korea.
I guess this is the first sign that I am old, but I just do not think Brady is all that great. I think he is very, very good but I think the words great are used a little too often. Heck Trent Dilfer has a Superbowl so please do not tell me he should be considered one of the greats.
I really think we need to re-adjust the standards here or a lot of lucky players who just happen to be in the right place at the right time will be considered best ever. I need more time and geritol to stew on this 
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I completely and utterly agree.... minus the age comments. 
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01-25-2005, 05:36 AM
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Man I tell ya this is tough stuff....I am a day older and this has not gotten any easier 
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01-25-2005, 08:17 AM
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I think when it is all said and done Brady will be the most successful QB in the land. He is so young and will likely have SB and many, many more years to go. This guy is awesome. We need to find a 6 rounder like this guy 
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