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View Poll Results: Who is the Best Ever Washington Redskins DEFENSIVE TACKLE
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Daryl Grant
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4.35% |
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Diron Tolbert
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Tim Johnson
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Dave Butz
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95.65% |
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Best Ever Series: DEFENSIVE TACKLE |
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07-19-2005, 09:05 AM
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Great Spirit
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Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Shippensburg PA
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Best Ever Series: DEFENSIVE TACKLE
The Defensive End selection wnet to Dexter Manley in a very, very tight race between Manley and Mann. Manley received 50% of the votes, while Mann was right behind at 45%. Manley was the winner in 2004 Best Ever with nearly the exact vote, 52% in 2004. Congrats to Dexter.
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07-19-2005, 09:07 AM
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Great Spirit
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Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Maryland suburbs of Washington, D.C.
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If this is for Best Rapping Defensive Tackle then you have to go with Daryl Grant. If this is for best football-playing Defensive Tackle then you have to go with Dave Butz.
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07-19-2005, 09:09 AM
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Sentinel
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Join Date: Apr 2005
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Grant gets my vote.
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07-19-2005, 09:10 AM
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This one ought to be quick, the man with the battle scarred helmet, Dave Butz.
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07-19-2005, 09:18 AM
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Grant will always stick out for the INT return against the Cowpukes in the NFC Championship...but overall, I have to go with Dave Butz. Just the memory of Butz swinging his cast around and clocking opposing linemen brings a smile to my face.
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07-19-2005, 09:25 AM
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Stubblefield? Wilkinson?
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07-19-2005, 09:40 AM
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I like big "Butz" and I can not lie.
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07-19-2005, 09:49 AM
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Great Spirit
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Originally Posted by PennSkinsFan
The Defensive End selection wnet to Dexter Manley in a very, very tight race between Manley and Mann. Manley received 50% of the votes, while Mann was right behind at 45%. Manley was the winner in 2004 Best Ever with nearly the exact vote, 52% in 2004. Congrats to Dexter.
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Dave Butz.
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07-19-2005, 10:08 AM
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Brave
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Join Date: Jun 2004
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Dave Butz (playing alongside Diron Talbert).
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07-19-2005, 11:20 AM
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Butz in a landslide...
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07-19-2005, 11:25 AM
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I agree its Butz...no competition.
Question: How long, assuming he stays on the team, until Griffin can be involved in the discussion?
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07-19-2005, 01:09 PM
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Brave
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Originally Posted by bwparker
I agree its Butz...no competition.
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I agree with the first part of this, but not the second. It is not a runaway, or at least it shouldn't be. Diron Talbert was every bit as good as Butz and anchored the line throughout the 70's. If anything, the vote should be neck and neck.
Funny thing is, during the 70's the Butz trade was initially considered a huge bust (as was the Riggins signing).
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Originally Posted by bwparker
Question: How long, assuming he stays on the team, until Griffin can be involved in the discussion?
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A long time
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07-19-2005, 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Wild Bore
I agree with the first part of this, but not the second. It is not a runaway, or at least it shouldn't be. Diron Talbert was every bit as good as Butz and anchored the line throughout the 70's. If anything, the vote should be neck and neck.
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I agree with this. I was tempted to vote for Talbert because I knew he wouldn't be shown the proper respect, but I feel Butz to have been the superior performer between the 2. Hopefully there will be a DT #2 poll.....
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07-19-2005, 01:42 PM
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Brave
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Originally Posted by Keino
I agree with this. I was tempted to vote for Talbert because I knew he wouldn't be shown the proper respect, but I feel Butz to have been the superior performer between the 2. Hopefully there will be a DT #2 poll.....
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Agreed. I voted for Butz too. But Talbert gets my next vote.
In addition to being one of the 70 best (he and Butz are the only DTs), I think Talbert has another distinction in Redskin history: He is one of three people, IMO, who was personally responsible for making the Dallas rivalry what it is today (or even better, what it used to be). Those three are George Allen, Talbert, and then later Dexter.
Remember Talbert vs. Staubach during Dallas Week?
And, you're right, he doesn't get the proper respect: Its Talbert, not Tolbert!
Last edited by Wild Bore : 07-19-2005 at 02:03 PM.
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07-19-2005, 01:55 PM
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I am in agreement with the consensus here, I like Butz at #1 and Talbert at 1a. Diron hated Dallas with the (Danny) white hot passion of a thoudand suns. For that if nothing else, he is worthy of respect.
Butz was a techniqueless manchild his first two seasons in DC. After some off-season coaching, including looking at Lombardi coaching films of Vince breaking down the whys and wherefores of defensive responsibilities, his role "clicked" for him and he was a problem forever after. No center or gurad wanted to play the Redskins, staring across at the big man with the ugly helmet. He was a force for a long, long time. Some of his plays will live forever in my memory. When big Dave sacked you, you stayed sacked.
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