"Scott" Brunell Player of the Week - Page 4

rskinsfan10 · #46 09-20-2005, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Brokenstriker

you know when you get right down to it, Bledsoe has been garnering some very positive press in general (before the Skins game at least ... Boomer Esiason for example saying Dallas and Bledsoe best/biggest free agent signing etc.etc.etc) ...

Bledsoe didn't have more than 4 minutes of excellence in the entire game either ... frankly probably not even 4 minutes ... and for some reason or another (I WONDER if its because he's not on the Redskins' roster?) he is "good" and Brunell (and Ramsey for that matter) are "journeymen" and not good enough, and second tier, second rate, losers, etc.etc.etc.

The thing is Brunell had his 4 minutes in clutch game on the line time ... and isn't that when its most valued?

except of course if you're a Redskin ... in which case it was just a fluke

I was about to post something along these lines. Bledsoe executed the plays that were called for him, but he was great. Brunell does the same, yet he was only good on two throws.

Brokenstriker · #47 09-21-2005, 08:02 AM

even more critical of Bledsoe ... he should have been able to ice the game ... and he didn't. Couldn't even move 20 yards to get into position for a long field goal.

I haven't been able to check yet, but I have this painful hunch that Bledsoe and the Cowboys will come out of the media hot-wash smelling not so bad and the Redskins will come out of it as a pretender who milked all of its 15 minutes in the sun and was lucky to win.

Lets not understate the fact that both QBs were working against uncontested top tier defenses. I also suspect the Pasta the Hut types of the world would tell you Dallas has a "better" defense than the Skins (more BS but that's not the point right now).

anybody have time to do some media trolling to see how the media enshrined "experts" have been reviewing the game and how the Redskins are fairing re: respect ... especially with regard to the Cowboys?

Ram11 · #48 09-21-2005, 09:16 AM

Lets not get to excited lets see how he plays against seattle. If he can do what he did in the four minutes for a hole game then that would be great. But I don't think he can. Thats just my opinion. I would love to see him lead us to the playoffs but right now I'm just no certain.

Brokenstriker · #49 09-21-2005, 09:36 AM

allow me to share a philosophic thought from a barren land with you ... kinda like the land Redskins' fans have been trying to survive in the past few years

"spit in the desert and a flower will grow"

here's another choice thought (thank goodness the cold war is over cause this is right out of Mao's lil red book)

The longest journey (the "longest yard?") starts with a single step

or perhaps some mathematic philosophy

DUDE ... 4 minutes is INFINITELY greater than 0 minutes

dj_stouty · #50 09-21-2005, 10:00 AM

I think people forget about the 41 yard pass Brunell made to Moss along the sidelines during the 3rd quarter. That was a brilliant throw...and I immediately had confidence that Brunell could do it again.

IowaSkinsFan · #51 09-21-2005, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by dj_stouty

I think people forget about the 41 yard pass Brunell made to Moss along the sidelines during the 3rd quarter. That was a brilliant throw...and I immediately had confidence that Brunell could do it again.

That was a nice throw, but I was somewhat tempered by the two underthrows of Moss (especially the one in the endzone) and the overthrow of Jacobs. Maybe they can get more in sync during the bye week. If we can hit plays like the underthrow of Moss in the endzone, we don't need heroics like that in the 4th quarter.

dj_stouty · #52 09-21-2005, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by IowaSkinsFan

That was a nice throw, but I was somewhat tempered by the two underthrows of Moss (especially the one in the endzone) and the overthrow of Jacobs. Maybe they can get more in sync during the bye week. If we can hit plays like the underthrow of Moss in the endzone, we don't need heroics like that in the 4th quarter.

I thought that one throw in the endzone was more of a good play by the defender than an underthrow by Brunell. There wasn't much more room in the endzone to throw it deeper. But I guess that is debatable.

And you are correct. Brunell and his receivers were not in snych...especially during the 1st half. He spent all trainging camp and preseason playing with guys like Mason and DMC who arent' even on the roster anymore. As time goes on, I think we will see more improvement in the passing game. Unfortunately, that doens't usually happen overnight. I'm just glad we have a 2 week buffer before the next game.

IowaSkinsFan · #53 09-21-2005, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by dj_stouty

I thought that one throw in the endzone was more of a good play by the defender than an underthrow by Brunell. There wasn't much more room in the endzone to throw it deeper. But I guess that is debatable.

And you are correct. Brunell and his receivers were not in snych...especially during the 1st half. He spent all trainging camp and preseason playing with guys like Mason and DMC who arent' even on the roster anymore. As time goes on, I think we will see more improvement in the passing game. Unfortunately, that doens't usually happen overnight. I'm just glad we have a 2 week buffer before the next game.

It looked to me that Moss was about half way into the endzone when the ball arrived. Minus the defender, the ball was on target. But with that throw, either Moss catches it or no one does, that's why I call it underthrown. There was more room, IMO.

dj_stouty · #54 09-21-2005, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by IowaSkinsFan

It looked to me that Moss was about half way into the endzone when the ball arrived. Minus the defender, the ball was on target. But with that throw, either Moss catches it or no one does, that's why I call it underthrown. There was more room, IMO.

There may have been a bit more room...but don't forget that Moss is 5'10". The shorter the receiver, the less room you have in the back of the endzone to get him the ball.

Regardless...that throw doesn't/didn't worry me. The fact that Brunell was accuarate on three throws of 39+ yards a peice greatly outweighs the incompletion in the endzone.

Side note: One more thing about Brunell's arm. On the 39 yard TD to Moss, Brunell ran back to the Dallas Star on the 50 yard line before letting go of the ball. That ball was in the air for over 50 yards, since Moss caught it 5 yards deep into the endzone. I think the "Brunell has a dead arm" argument is now dead.

Brokenstriker · #55 09-21-2005, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by dj_stouty

There may have been a bit more room...but don't forget that Moss is 5'10". The shorter the receiver, the less room you have in the back of the endzone to get him the ball.

Regardless...that throw doesn't/didn't worry me. The fact that Brunell was accuarate on three throws of 39+ yards a peice greatly outweighs the incompletion in the endzone.

Side note: One more thing about Brunell's arm. On the 39 yard TD to Moss, Brunell ran back to the Dallas Star on the 50 yard line before letting go of the ball. That ball was in the air for over 50 yards, since Moss caught it 5 yards deep into the endzone. I think the "Brunell has a dead arm" argument is now dead.

the second TD completion was something like 50 yards in the air also ... from the 25 to the 25 ... more or less

thecheat48 · #56 09-21-2005, 05:59 PM

Quick ? sorta off topic:

Which cowboy did Brunell put that move on in the open field when he ran for 25 in the 4th? Brunell simply made the guy miss - it was a nice play and a horrible open field tackle. could have been 4th and 15 not 2.

rskinsfan10 · #57 09-21-2005, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by dj_stouty

I think people forget about the 41 yard pass Brunell made to Moss along the sidelines during the 3rd quarter. That was a brilliant throw...and I immediately had confidence that Brunell could do it again.

Yet another example of why I'm not quite understanding this "he didn't do anything all game except for 4mins mantra" that is running wild.

GibbsRules! · #58 09-21-2005, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by thecheat48

Quick ? sorta off topic:

Which cowboy did Brunell put that move on in the open field when he ran for 25 in the 4th? Brunell simply made the guy miss - it was a nice play and a horrible open field tackle. could have been 4th and 15 not 2.

I was wondering that as well...I thought it was Nguyen but I'm not sure. Whoever it was lost thier cleats.

CornerBlitz · #59 09-21-2005, 06:14 PM

He might not have thrown all that well during the first 3 quarters but he did manage the game very good. His one interception was towards the dallas sideline and I think the defender just blended in with his teammates (on the sideline). I think he is very confident in moss now and needs to get in a rythm with patten during the bye.

dabro · #60 09-21-2005, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Skinz4lyfe

I was gonna mention that too. Also if we didn't fold Ramsey would have lead the game winning drive in Big D last year. Sure it wouldn't have been nearly as dramatic but it might have given the team (and Ramsey) a little more confidence going into the off-season.

However, I'm going on record as saying that Brunell played with the heart that could only have been matched by Joe T.

[and Jergy, and Kilmer, and D Williams]