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09-20-2005, 11:48 PM
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What are the improvements that you would like to see mdae during the bye week to help the Skins improve.
1. Getting Portis into the 2nd level of defenses so he can use his speed and help the offense.
2. More pressure I don't know what has happened but I thought we would be all over Bledsoe. I think the need for an improvement at DE was showcased but barring a trade we need to get pressure from somewhere else.
3. More big plays, I hope then end of the Dallas game gave Gibbs and Brunell the confidence to go down field more often.
I also believe that we should be looking to trade Ramsey, with Brunell doing well and Campbell capable of holding a clip board we should dump him before his value and his attitude tanks.
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09-21-2005, 12:01 AM
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I would like to see:
- Better blitz-countering schemes. The dump to Thrash on the fourth down play shows how we should have handled the blitz all night.
- Get Brunell more in synch with Patten, Cooley, and Taylor Jacobs. He's got it down with Moss, Royal and Thrash.
- More consistent dwon field passing in the game plan. We need to take shots more often, not just when everything falls perfectly into place. Brunell is smart enough not to do anything too stupid if the play goes bad.
I totally disagree about trading Ramsey. WE will most likely need him at some point this year as Mark has a history of not staying healthy for 16 games. We don't want to be in playoff contention and have to start a rookie at QB. Besides we wouldn't get anything for Ramsey at this point.
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09-21-2005, 12:06 AM
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I don't know how many times I've seen the same dump-off pass to the TE in two games but man, it got OLD.
I want to see an end to the conservative, cautious, and eminently predictable run/run/pass-type of approach and see the O opened up more. The time for stretch-the-field bombs isn't with under 4 minutes left in the 4th quarter, it's for mixing into the first quarter - and every quarter.
In short, I think we need much more creativity and imagination on O. "Roll the dice" a little more, not like Mike Martz-type insanity or anything like that, but mix it up and take some chances. Also, a realization that Jumbo and Heavy Jumbo are a thing of the past, that we don't have a line that will make the run/run/pass thing work like it did in 1992, and that our offensive strategy and playcalling need to reflect these facts.
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09-21-2005, 12:15 AM
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Originally Posted by BigPlayJay
I would like to see:
- Better blitz-countering schemes. The dump to Thrash on the fourth down play shows how we should have handled the blitz all night.
- Get Brunell more in synch with Patten, Cooley, and Taylor Jacobs. He's got it down with Moss, Royal and Thrash.
- More consistent dwon field passing in the game plan. We need to take shots more often, not just when everything falls perfectly into place. Brunell is smart enough not to do anything too stupid if the play goes bad.
I totally disagree about trading Ramsey. WE will most likely need him at some point this year as Mark has a history of not staying healthy for 16 games. We don't want to be in playoff contention and have to start a rookie at QB. Besides we wouldn't get anything for Ramsey at this point.
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Yep. With special emphasis on 1 and 2. Plus the item about getting Portis to the 2nd level.
On the Ramsey front. No trade. No shopping. No. As BPJ said, Brunell WILL go down at some point this season and I don't want Campbell in there. Plus you can't just carry 2 QBs, and trading Ramsey leaves a hole to fill; either we get a QB in the trade or we have to go to FA. Either way, the guy is useless to us because he's a cast off that doesn't know our offense. Ramsey WILL be here the rest of the season and he will almost definitely play again.
Plus, at this point I can't imagine his value going down, or his attitude getting worse.(He's not getting any MORE benched than he is right now.) Maybe he gets pissed if Campbell passes him on the depth chart, but I don't see that happening, unless we're completely out of playoff contention.
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09-21-2005, 12:20 AM
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I am not saying that we dump him but we should start seeing what people will give.
We could trade
QB Pat Ramsey and 5{06} to Arizona for WR Branyt Johnson
and then sign a 3rd QB like Vinny Testeverde he stayed healthy all last year and would provide more veteran leadership.
This is just an idea.
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09-21-2005, 12:31 AM
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Originally Posted by ConradCountry
I am not saying that we dump him but we should start seeing what people will give.
We could trade
QB Pat Ramsey and 5{06} to Arizona for WR Branyt Johnson
and then sign a 3rd QB like Vinny Testeverde he stayed healthy all last year and would provide more veteran leadership.
This is just an idea.
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Eh...its interesting. I just think its a bad idea and it won't happen.
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09-21-2005, 01:02 AM
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How about Ramsey to Detroit for Charles Rogers, straight up. I say that's a fair trade that would benefit both teams a great deal.
But, besides that we need to improve our pressure schemes. Whether it be by blitzing or by our front four, we need to improve our pressure skills a great deal.
Our deep threat game should now be utilized more now that we know it is effective. I hope to see more of it early on in games and it should help open up the running game which is also an issue.
Portis has been too inconsistent we have to get the passing game going in order for him to have good games. Once we can do that, Portis should be able to tear it up.
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09-21-2005, 01:20 AM
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2. More pressure I don't know what has happened but I thought we would be all over Bledsoe. I think the need for an improvement at DE was showcased but barring a trade we need to get pressure from somewhere else.
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Parcells expected this also...but GW outsmarted him. The girls ran a lot of max-protect expecting the blitz. The blitz never came and low and behold, Keyshawn is triple covered.
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09-21-2005, 04:45 AM
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My personal feeling is this. If we had Moss deep earlier in the game, Portis would have ran for 150+ yards. But since we didn't attack down field they were able to stack the line. Taking away our running game.
As I've said numerous times before. Until we show teams that we can hit the homerun ball, teams will continue to stack the line and take away our running game.
OMT, we have to cut down on the stupid penalties. How many false starts were we called for? That drives me crazy. A penalty before the play even begins...
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09-21-2005, 04:58 AM
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call me crazy but if they insist on running Portis straight up the gut i'd kinda like to see a lead blocker like Nemo in the backfield, and more stretch plays for Portis anyway.
Timing with Brunell and the receivers. Moss was open in the corner of the end zone, underthrown. Patten was also underthrown. I dont think Brunell can throw it any farther so he has to get rid of it earlier. Those guys can run 50 yards in 5 seconds and that's as far as Brunell can throw it so he better throw it quick to allow for the hang time. i think they were finally getting that down at the end, obviously.
if there's going to be a trade for Ramsey during the season i hope it's for a player player straight up. we cant let go an important piece and not get another piece. if it's in the offseason, then a draft pick would be okay.
Get Lavar up to speed. he could be a force after the bye week.
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09-21-2005, 05:22 AM
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Hey, we WERE throwing downfield early. Dallas was just breaking the passes up by knocking the balls down before Moss could get to them.
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09-21-2005, 06:26 AM
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Originally Posted by ConradCountry
What are the improvements that you would like to see mdae during the bye week to help the Skins improve.
1. Getting Portis into the 2nd level of defenses so he can use his speed and help the offense.
2. More pressure I don't know what has happened but I thought we would be all over Bledsoe. I think the need for an improvement at DE was showcased but barring a trade we need to get pressure from somewhere else.
3. More big plays, I hope then end of the Dallas game gave Gibbs and Brunell the confidence to go down field more often.
I also believe that we should be looking to trade Ramsey, with Brunell doing well and Campbell capable of holding a clip board we should dump him before his value and his attitude tanks.
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Portis should get more room to run with an improved passing game, and I don't mean the deep stuff like we saw to Moss. I am talking about the intermediate stuff over the middle.
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09-21-2005, 06:35 AM
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Improvements to be Made:
Game planning: Don't save the deep pass until our backs are against the wall.
Offensive Line: Get your act together and start playing as a unit. Stop the stupid penalties.
Defensive Line: Need to get pressure on the QB
QB Play: 2 weeks for Burnell to work on his timing in the short passing game.
ST Coverage: Get rid of the weak link(s) - bring in new player if you got to.
LAST ...... Kicker - Need to make a decision about Hall. His dependibility is VERY questionable - is he really worth having to worry about on a weekly (and game) basis.
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09-21-2005, 07:26 AM
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OK guys we should throw.....
......the ball deeper earlier, but I think it's all relative. I will admit that because of poor television decisions over here in the UK, we only saw the last quarter and a half of the game (Ch 5 said they wouild only show the 1st half of the NO-NYG,game then the whole of our game, but they LIED), but what I saw was our O-Line not performing. The Dallas rush got to Brunell real easy, especially their interior linemen. They seemed to get off the blocks real quick, as if they knew our snap counts. If we can get that sorted, that should give Brunell time to throw the ball.
PS As its a bye week I flying over to NY to watch the Jets play, but I'll be telling them how we got the better of the trade!!!

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09-21-2005, 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Redskin Scott
I don't know how many times I've seen the same dump-off pass to the TE in two games but man, it got OLD.
I want to see an end to the conservative, cautious, and eminently predictable run/run/pass-type of approach and see the O opened up more. The time for stretch-the-field bombs isn't with under 4 minutes left in the 4th quarter, it's for mixing into the first quarter - and every quarter.
In short, I think we need much more creativity and imagination on O. "Roll the dice" a little more, not like Mike Martz-type insanity or anything like that, but mix it up and take some chances. Also, a realization that Jumbo and Heavy Jumbo are a thing of the past, that we don't have a line that will make the run/run/pass thing work like it did in 1992, and that our offensive strategy and playcalling need to reflect these facts.
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See I disagree with this notion. I HATE Mike Martz's "feast or famine" offense that gives up lots of turnovers. I think if getting the ball to Cooley and Royal either picks up the first or sets us up for a good down and distance, then feed them the ball. I just want to take shots down the field more than '05. Patten needs to get in gear a little to help move the changes, but I like being a run first and conservative offense.
Another reason I like it is that when we play Philly or other high powered offenses, we can dominate in TOP and give their offense fewer opportunies against our rested top 5 defense.
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