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Old 10-11-2005, 09:46 PM
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He's the one the QB will be looking for and pointing to as he approaches the line of scrimmage. Right now, that person is probably Sean Taylor (and Marcus Washington). Just imagine if the QB had to come out of the huddle and look for all three of them.
If a QB had that much to worry about (assuming one day we blitz Sean Taylor), then the entire team's blitzing would be much more effective. You worry about those three and Shawn Springs, Matt Bowen, and Carlos Rogers will have their opportunities. This is a defense that needs speed and solid tacking to be effective. Once those things fall into place, we can shut down any team.

One more thing about Arrington: if we can put in Jimoh and Rogers and roll coverage their way to help them out, why can' we do the same with Lavar to make up for his freelancing?
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Old 10-11-2005, 09:54 PM
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It seems to me most of us are desperate to get LaVar in there and Holdman in a back up role. I concur.
Here's a question: Where was Taylor on those two runs?
An observation and a question: We miss Noble and will we get him back this season?
Another question: Why has Chris Clemons not been effective as a rusher, except on the punt.
I think we should field our intimidators without fail: Arrington, Washington, Rogers, Taylor, Griffin, Springs (Bowen or Clark). It should hurt offenses to play us. It should be dangerous. Clemons should be brought in as designated rusher. Warner should be brought back to rush on passing downs for Wynn.
We were great last year because we swarmed and hit, as well as because of Williams.

Imagine being a quarterback in a passing situation facing:

Warner Griffen Daniels
Clemons Marshall Arrington Washington
Springs Rogers

Taylor Clarke or Bowen

Looks to me like 5 sack threats and a good chance of any receiver winding up out cold.
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Old 10-11-2005, 09:55 PM
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ok rf10. Love to debate further on this but I gotta sign off now. You are right though, I am pretty happy with a number 3 D. We must be doing something right! I am also ok with punishing Lavar, if that is what is happening. The real story will certainly come out someday.
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Old 10-11-2005, 09:59 PM
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I've read and heard alot of people say "if it ain't broke then don't fix it" in regards to LaVar and the defense, with the insinuatioin being that there is no need to play LaVar because the defense is ranked where it is.

I contend that there is something "broke that needs fixing", and that is the lack of pressure/sacks and turnovers. We are not applying as much pressure as we did last year, point blank. Since many of you contend that LaVar wouldn't help/isn't needed as far as these deficiencies (sp?) are concerned, then I would like to hear/read some solutions that you may have for the team to improve in these areas.

I'm looking for serious commentary.
To be honest Kenny, I'm looking beyond turnovers and sacks. How about pursuit! On the long runs we had against us I saw linebackers on Lavar's side of the field chasing behind the running back only to never make contact. Do you think that Lavar has better pursuit skills? I do. That's my opinion in addition to the sacks and turnovers.

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How do I know Holdman is ineffective? Lets see:

Washington- 28 tackles
Lemar Marshall- 24
Warrick Holdman- 10

Ryan Clark, who has been hampered by injuries, and Walt Harris, who hasn't played the last two games have 9 tackles.

That's what I was briefed on, but I'm sure to you that's no big deal. 10 tackles by your weakside LB is up to par with where he should be after 4 games I suppose.
My point exactly... pursuit, pursuit, pursuit!

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Old 10-11-2005, 10:00 PM
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[quote=Paintedbird]It seems to me most of us are desperate to get LaVar in there and Holdman in a back up role. I concur.
Here's a question: Where was Taylor on those two runs?
An observation and a question: We miss Noble and will we get him back this season?
Another question: Why has Chris Clemons not been effective as a rusher, except on the punt.
I think we should field our intimidators without fail: Arrington, Washington, Rogers, Taylor, Griffin, Springs (Bowen or Clark). It should hurt offenses to play us. It should be dangerous. Clemons should be brought in as designated rusher. Warner should be brought back to rush on passing downs for Wynn.
We were great last year because we swarmed and hit, as well as because of Williams.

Imagine being a quarterback in a passing situation facing:

Taylor tried to get him on the first run but he was so far ahead on the second run i think it was bowens fault he took a bad pursuit angle and missed i hope prioleo comes back
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Old 10-11-2005, 10:12 PM
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Trying to fix what's not broken? Hhmm. I'm not so sure about that. I'm of the opinion after this game that there is something that doesn't add up. IMO, Lavar may be "undisciplined" at times but he didn't make the Probowl 3 times because of nothing. Have his skills deteriated to the point of him not being effective. I'm frustrated w/this situation because I was salivating all off-season of the prospects of having him and Sean Taylor on D. Now, we're telling Arrington that he's no more than a 3rd string LB. I don't know are there performance incentives tied into his contract that we don't wanna pay or something? Is it because Blache is more familiar w/Holdman from their days in Chicago? I know I'm reaching at this point but something just isn't right. This comes after Gibbs apparently fought to resolve the contract issue w/him and the FO.

Also, regarding the aggressiveness of our defense, I believe that we aren't blitzing enough because our CBs have been hurt. Sure last year we had injuries on the defensive side but our CBs stayed relatively healthy. Maybe if Springs and Harris come back healthy we'll get to see if we can pump up the volume on the blitz packages.
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Old 10-11-2005, 10:14 PM
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I personally dont think last years creative blitzing scheme was sufficient and this years defense is dying to be exposed (and has been). I was willing to get rid of Ramsey 2 years ago when the Dolphins were getting rid of Dwale (AFC sack leader) and needed a QB just for some type of pass rush.

Pass rush from our Dline does not exist and I wonder sometimes if GW is even asking them to blitz because they are so non effective....It is pretty unbelievable that the coaching staff feels that a freelancing Lavar would not be a upgrade to our defense because he still has to be accounted for on EVERY down.

When GW finally forgives LA for whatever he did and announces that he will start, I gaurentee you that THAT QB will have a hard time sleeping that night....along with thier Offensive coordinator and the entire line!
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Old 10-11-2005, 10:36 PM
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This just came out in the Washington post.
Link.http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...101101908.html
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...101101599.html

Saying, "I've put myself in the doghouse somehow," Washington Redskins linebacker LaVar Arrington has no idea why he's not playing and vehemently disagreed with defensive coordinator Gregg Williams's assertion last week that players who want to be on the field Sunday "have to do it in practice."

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Old 10-11-2005, 10:39 PM
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This just came out in the Washington post.
Link.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...R2005101101908
All I got was this...

http://http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/error.html
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Old 10-11-2005, 10:39 PM
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We've near misses on interceptions, players just a tad too late looking around or turning around, and sacks that were apparent, negated by holds, choke holds and down right dirty play by O linemen, but no calls. Soon.
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Old 10-11-2005, 10:44 PM
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I do believe in the "if it isn't broke don't fix it"

but you should upgrade

IMO

Holdman is Playstaion...LA is PSX
You can have fun playing games on the playstation but PSX will be more fun.

Holdman is windows 3.1....LA is Windows XP
You might might be able to do what You got to do with 3.1 but you have more options with XP

Holdman is Dial up........LA is Cable
You can access the internet with Dial up but You can do it quicker with cable

Holdman is Aristocrat Vodka.....LA is Grey Goose
You can get drunk off Aristocrat but Grey Goose doesn't taste like **** and does not leave you with such a horrible hangover.

Holman is two wheel drive...LA is 4 wheel drive
You can get from point a to b in both but when the going gets rough LA can get you out of the mud.

I could go on and on cause its fun but I'll stop there. Point is LA is an upgrade over Holdman and he should be in there

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This just came out in the Washington post.
Link.http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...101101908.html
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...101101599.html

Saying, "I've put myself in the doghouse somehow," Washington Redskins linebacker LaVar Arrington has no idea why he's not playing and vehemently disagreed with defensive coordinator Gregg Williams's assertion last week that players who want to be on the field Sunday "have to do it in practice."
Ok it is good to go.
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Old 10-11-2005, 10:47 PM
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Lavar needs to go in; it's overdue. If he doesn't produce or his presence doesn't have the desired effect then we can deal with it/argue about it at that time.

The way things are going now, this is becoming a serious distraction IMHO. Put him in and let's see what he does.
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Old 10-11-2005, 10:49 PM
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I do believe in the "if it isn't broke don't fix it"

but you should upgrade

IMO

Holdman is Playstaion...LA is PSX
You can have fun playing games on the playstation but PSX will be more fun.

Holdman is windows 3.1....LA is Windows XP
You might might be able to do what You got to do with 3.1 but you have more options with XP

Holdman is Dial up........LA is Cable
You can access the internet with Dial up but You can do it quicker with cable

Holdman is Aristocrat Vodka.....LA is Grey Goose
You can get drunk off Aristocrat but Grey Goose doesn't taste like **** and does not leave you with such a horrible hangover.

Holman is two wheel drive...LA is 4 wheel drive
You can get from point a to b in both but when the going gets rough LA can get you out of the mud.

I could go on and on cause its fun but I'll stop there. Point is LA is an upgrade over Holdman and he should be in there
Holman is tighty-whiteys...LA is boxer briefs

umm-errrr nevermind. I agree, Lavar makes the defense better, period.
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Old 10-11-2005, 10:51 PM
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Lavar needs to go in; it's overdue. If he doesn't produce or his presence doesn't have the desired effect then we can deal with it/argue about it at that time.

The way things are going now, this is becoming a serious distraction IMHO. Put him in and let's see what he does.
If it hasn't been a distraction at Redskins Park it will be tomorrow morning. Check out the link hogs86 posted.
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