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Old 03-01-2006, 02:20 PM
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NEW YORK (AP) - NFL owners will try Thursday to find labor peace before the start of free agency, hoping to avoid the mass dumping of veterans for salary-cap reasons.


As first reported by FOXSports.com's Jay Glazer, the owners will meet in New York, seeking to find a way toward an agreement with the players union that could add $10 million to 15 million to a 2006 salary cap that current is projected at about $95 million. Without it, some teams could be forced into wholesale cuts to get beneath the cap by midnight. Free agency starts Friday.



Three days of talks between the league and the NFL Players Association to extend the agreement that runs out in 2008 ended Tuesday with the sides far apart on the percentage of league revenues earmarked for its players. Gene Upshaw, the union's executive director, said the league is offering to 56.2 percent of its total revenue for the players, almost four points lower than the union's.

"Our number has to start with a six," Upshaw said.

But beyond the numbers is an issue that has divided the owners for two years - revenue sharing among the teams.

Under the current system, some teams make far more than others in ancillary income, ranging from local radio rights to stadium naming rights and advertising. The lower revenue teams say that forces them to commit as much as 70 percent of that money to the players while teams with more outside money contribute far less, giving the high-revenue teams more available cash for upfront bonuses to free agents.

The NFL said in a statement after talks broke off that revenue sharing won't be discussed at Thursday's meeting.

Still, it is bound to come up during a meeting that on the surface is considered a strategy session to determine the owners' next move. Labor negotiations often have a way of being moved forward by deadlines, and revenue sharing is considered a critical part of the formula.

Under the current agreement, 2006 is scheduled to be the last year with a salary cap. An uncapped year in 2007 means new rules that will force teams and agents to change their plans this year and could keep a lot of teams out of the free-agent market entirely.

"It might mean that no rookies get signed because no one is sure of the long-term ramifications," said Tom Condon, the agent for a number of the game's top players.

Even more urgent are salary-cap ramifications for many teams, which anticipated a labor agreement and planned for a much bigger ceiling. Washington, for example, could be as much as $25 million after signings over the past few years that anticipated a salary cap figure well over $100 million.

Others seem ready for whatever happens.

"We're in pretty good shape," New York Giants general manager Ernie Accorsi said Wednesday. "They're going to give us a cap number and we'll be ready for it. You always prepare for a worst case, no matter what the situation. You never want to be surprised by something negative, only something positive."

Accorsi said he's also not worried about new rules. He said those contingencies are covered in the contracts of two young Pro Bowl players - tight end Jeremy Shockey and defensive end Osi Umenyiora - that the Giants extended last fall. But others are in a different situation, which could mean wholesale cuts of big-name players at midnight Thursday. What happens in the meetings may determine that.
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Old 03-01-2006, 02:28 PM
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At this point there is a lot of posturing, and smoke-blowing bewteen both sides here. unfortunately, my heart can't take this anymore and i am close to snapping. the players have better leverage this time around, and the wealthy owners might be forced to concede 61%. right now they are approx 4 billion dollars off. that's a lot. i think it gets done though, for the simple fact that if it doesn't, free-agency will be dismal and top teams will plummit. especially us. the league can not risk losing the integrity and quality of product they have built over the past decade. i pray for this to get done, and i don't even believe in god. sean is he.
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Old 03-01-2006, 02:33 PM
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You don't believe in Sean?? I do

This whole Bloody Thursday will definitely not be good for the players. I do think Upshaw will settle for less than 60%. Maybe not 56, but something in the middle.
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Old 03-01-2006, 02:36 PM
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I'm going to hold out a small amount of hope that cooler heads will prevail here, and everyone can walk away from the table happy. It's only in the best interests of the owners AND the players to make something happen. If no CBA is done, not only will the owners and players lose, but so will the fans and the game of football, itself. Let's hope tomorrow they can get it done.
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Old 03-01-2006, 02:38 PM
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This whole Bloody Thursday will definitely not be good for the players. I do think Upshaw will settle for less than 60%. Maybe not 56, but something in the middle.
i said, "Sean is He." Right now the players want 61, owners want 57. each percentage point if worth about a billion over the life of the contract.i think it will get done at the last minute tomorrow night. in the end i believe it gets set at 59 or 59.5 and FA is delayed a week.
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Old 03-01-2006, 02:39 PM
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If there is a meeting tomorrow, then the deal will be done. This is good news.
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Old 03-01-2006, 02:42 PM
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If there is a meeting tomorrow, then the deal will be done. This is good news.
Especially if the owners are actually going to be in New York rather than in some conference call or something. Glazer reported this around midday.
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Old 03-01-2006, 02:44 PM
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So then the real question becomes, what cap number will be decided on.
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I mentioned this another thread and I will repeat it here, this meeting is an owners only meeting with Tagliabue and it is to discuss how to move on in the new environment, sans a CBA.
I'm not saying that they can't come to an agreement and get Upshaw on the phone but as of now, this meeting isn't about a resolution.
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Old 03-01-2006, 02:46 PM
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If there is a meeting tomorrow, then the deal will be done. This is good news.
Let's cross our fingers. This may be the 2nd piece of bigtime offseason news for us to hiring Saunders. I really hope they get this done. The nfl is awesome along with the quality of play, contrary to what Chris Mortensen may say. Get 'er done boys.
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I mentioned this another thread and I will repeat it here, this meeting is an owners only meeting with Tagliabue and it is to discuss how to move on in the new environment, sans a CBA.
I'm not saying that they can't come to an agreement and get Upshaw on the phone but as of now, this meeting isn't about a resolution.
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Well, that doesn't make much sense. If they are meeting to go over the new rules for the cap, that gives the teams less than 24 hours to try and restructure and cut. They don't need to all go to NYC for that and having everyone in NYC would be an impedement to teams getting things done.
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Old 03-01-2006, 02:49 PM
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right now there are a lot of very prominent players that face getting released tomorrow because there is no cba. those players and their agents , I guarantee are calling upshaws office and telling him to get this done. the players don't want to face mass-dumping just as much as the teams don't. that meeting tomorow doesn't invovle player representation but i think a conference call may be in order. or we are about to enter a world of anarchy and chaos.
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I mentioned this another thread and I will repeat it here, this meeting is an owners only meeting with Tagliabue and it is to discuss how to move on in the new environment, sans a CBA.
I'm not saying that they can't come to an agreement and get Upshaw on the phone but as of now, this meeting isn't about a resolution.
The rules should have already been explained to everyone by now. There is no way they are going to wait less than 24 hours to get the cap out then explain everything and then expect the owners to get things done.

It doesnt make much sense if you ask me.
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Old 03-01-2006, 02:51 PM
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And I said in that thread:
I believe there is going to be a one week grace period for everyone to get under the cap.

Glazer broke this story to the AP last night and at the time they were reporting it as I explained it. Things might have changed since then, we'll see.
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The rules should have already been explained to everyone by now. There is no way they are going to wait less than 24 hours to get the cap out then explain everything and then expect the owners to get things done.

It doesnt make much sense if you ask me.
Well, also: Teams have until 4 pm EST to get under the cap and the meeting is at 8.30 am EST. Assuming it takes until 9.30ish, teams would have 6.5 hours to figure out what they can do under the new rules and make the moves they need to. That makes no sense.
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