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Abridged Report From Day 5
Don't have time for the full thing tonight, so we'll do this a slightly different way.
The Good
Andre Carter: This guy routinely makes our tackles seem like they're not even there. He's a fantastic combination of power and quickness, and his speed around the edge is absurd. There were several times today that he easily would have gotten a sack if the golden jerseys weren't on.
Anthony Montgomery: Enormous, gigantic, behemoth of a man who's got plenty of quickness of his own. Montgomery made some excellent pushes today, including one fantastic play in which he basically shoved aside both Mike Pucillo and Ikechuku Ndukwe before reaching Jason Campbell. The rumors are true - Montgomery's a stud, and will give us excellent depth at DT.
Mark Brunell: Today was the first time in camp that the offense has been in a real rhythm, and it was mostly because of Brunell. He was hitting timing patterns perfectly, threw a few lasers, and made a fantastic throw to Moss about forty-five yards down the sideline. Moss had burnt Springs, and managed to get ahead of Sean Taylor for a touchdown. Beautiful play.
Reed Doughty: His straight-line speed was in question after the draft, but Doughty's got a knack for the game. He was extremely quick to the ball all day, looking good in coverage and blowing up a couple runs in the backfield. Doughty will probably be nothing more than a special-teamer this year, but he's the kind of guy we can quietly keep on the roster and groom into a very solid contributor. He can also free up Pierson Prioleau to play corner if needed.
The Bad
Backup O-Line: Someone needs to step up here in a jiffy. The backup D-line routinely destroys their offensive counterparts, and the situation is made infinitely worse in the face of a blitz. Our sixth-round pick, Kili Lefotu, appears to be a total waste. I don't think it's an exaggeration to say that he's the worst player out there. The run blocking's at least defense, but the pass blocking is downright horrendous. If I had to pick a bright spot, it'd be undrafted rookie Jasper Harvey, who's been getting a lot of time at center and does a decent job there. He's also the man who took over #56.
Spencer Havner: Apparently there's a lot to like about Havner, but when he was in today he was tested with a lot of outside runs and didn't fare very well. He had problems flowing with traffic, often taking bad angles and not being able to persue sideline-to-sideline. I doubt he'll be off the team entirely given the good stuff we've heard about him from the coaching staff, but I doubt he'll make it beyond the practice squad unless he's a preposterously good special teams player.
The Ugly
Jason Campbell vs. The Blitz: This almost isn't fair, because Campbell has to deal with defenders in the backfield within two seconds of the snap. But it's be nice to see him hit a hot route or two. The coaches clearly tested Campbell with five or six blitzes off the bat when he got his first reps during the 11-on-11s, and twice he didn't even throw the ball after being tapped by so many rushers while holding the ball for far too long. This is the hardest part of the game for a young QB to master, but he's going to need to show some improvement over the next month.
Dropsies: The backs weren't particularly adept at catching out of the backfield today, with several balls hitting the ground for no good reason, including two on consecutive plays thanks to the shaky hands of Kerry Carter and Clinton Portis. This is Todd Collins' bread-and-butter, so the offense really can't go anywhere when he's in unless the swing pass and check-down are working effectively.
As always, ask away if you've got questions.
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08-05-2006, 12:49 AM
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Tested Campbell with five or six blitzes!? Ouch! That's just wrong, man.
Thanks for another good report, Joe.
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08-05-2006, 12:51 AM
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Good stuff as usual, Joe. I have overall questions on Jason Campbell's accuracy throwing the ball. First, how's it looking? Is he usually on point or is he missing most of his throws? Also, where is he missing his throws? Are they generally rising over the heads of the receiver? Falling short? Too far ahead? Thanks.
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08-05-2006, 01:02 AM
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Originally Posted by LATrueRedskin
Good stuff as usual, Joe. I have overall questions on Jason Campbell's accuracy throwing the ball. First, how's it looking? Is he usually on point or is he missing most of his throws? Also, where is he missing his throws? Are they generally rising over the heads of the receiver? Falling short? Too far ahead? Thanks.
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great stuff... good news about harvey and doughty.. sorry about havner.
lofutu? hard to feel bad about a low round pick. still...
everybody has had positives to say about espy. how did he look today??
very little said about simon who seems to be having a quiet camp.. any word on him? on golston ?
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08-05-2006, 01:26 AM
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How do the kickers, punters look?
this is red hot:
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Reed Doughty: His straight-line speed was in question after the draft, but Doughty's got a knack for the game. He was extremely quick to the ball all day, looking good in coverage and blowing up a couple runs in the backfield. Doughty will probably be nothing more than a special-teamer this year, but he's the kind of guy we can quietly keep on the roster and groom into a very solid contributor. He can also free up Pierson Prioleau to play corner if needed.
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This allows more grooming on Jimoh as well, because the depth is ALREADY on the roster with PP being able to back three spots if needed and still be a gunner on Teams.
It also keeps Christian Morton from letting up on his game, if he's still going to be around.
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08-05-2006, 01:31 AM
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Originally Posted by bgforever
How do the kickers, punters look?
this is red hot:
This allows more grooming on Jimoh as well, because the depth is ALREADY on the roster with PP being able to back three spots if needed and still be a gunner on Teams.
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sounds good but i think doughty will be more than a special teamer
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08-05-2006, 05:01 AM
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sounds good but i think doughty will be more than a special teamer
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He'll contribute to the D I imagine, but it won't be for a few games unless we have injuries. He'll be eased in there I think so teams don't focus too much on gameplanning for him and he doesn't have the pressure of playing so many snaps from the get go.
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08-05-2006, 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by JoeDaSchmoe
Don't have time for the full thing tonight, so we'll do this a slightly different way.
The Good
Andre Carter: This guy routinely makes our tackles seem like they're not even there. He's a fantastic combination of power and quickness, and his speed around the edge is absurd. There were several times today that he easily would have gotten a sack if the golden jerseys weren't on.
Anthony Montgomery: Enormous, gigantic, behemoth of a man who's got plenty of quickness of his own. Montgomery made some excellent pushes today, including one fantastic play in which he basically shoved aside both Mike Pucillo and Ikechuku Ndukwe before reaching Jason Campbell. The rumors are true - Montgomery's a stud, and will give us excellent depth at DT.
Mark Brunell: Today was the first time in camp that the offense has been in a real rhythm, and it was mostly because of Brunell. He was hitting timing patterns perfectly, threw a few lasers, and made a fantastic throw to Moss about forty-five yards down the sideline. Moss had burnt Springs, and managed to get ahead of Sean Taylor for a touchdown. Beautiful play.
Reed Doughty: His straight-line speed was in question after the draft, but Doughty's got a knack for the game. He was extremely quick to the ball all day, looking good in coverage and blowing up a couple runs in the backfield. Doughty will probably be nothing more than a special-teamer this year, but he's the kind of guy we can quietly keep on the roster and groom into a very solid contributor. He can also free up Pierson Prioleau to play corner if needed.
The Bad
Backup O-Line: Someone needs to step up here in a jiffy. The backup D-line routinely destroys their offensive counterparts, and the situation is made infinitely worse in the face of a blitz. Our sixth-round pick, Kili Lefotu, appears to be a total waste. I don't think it's an exaggeration to say that he's the worst player out there. The run blocking's at least defense, but the pass blocking is downright horrendous. If I had to pick a bright spot, it'd be undrafted rookie Jasper Harvey, who's been getting a lot of time at center and does a decent job there. He's also the man who took over #56.
Spencer Havner: Apparently there's a lot to like about Havner, but when he was in today he was tested with a lot of outside runs and didn't fare very well. He had problems flowing with traffic, often taking bad angles and not being able to persue sideline-to-sideline. I doubt he'll be off the team entirely given the good stuff we've heard about him from the coaching staff, but I doubt he'll make it beyond the practice squad unless he's a preposterously good special teams player.
The Ugly
Jason Campbell vs. The Blitz: This almost isn't fair, because Campbell has to deal with defenders in the backfield within two seconds of the snap. But it's be nice to see him hit a hot route or two. The coaches clearly tested Campbell with five or six blitzes off the bat when he got his first reps during the 11-on-11s, and twice he didn't even throw the ball after being tapped by so many rushers while holding the ball for far too long. This is the hardest part of the game for a young QB to master, but he's going to need to show some improvement over the next month.
Dropsies: The backs weren't particularly adept at catching out of the backfield today, with several balls hitting the ground for no good reason, including two on consecutive plays thanks to the shaky hands of Kerry Carter and Clinton Portis. This is Todd Collins' bread-and-butter, so the offense really can't go anywhere when he's in unless the swing pass and check-down are working effectively.
As always, ask away if you've got questions.
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Good stuff as always! Joe, did Jason Campbell get any time with the starting offense? I would think that would be a more accurate way to gauge his progress. Did Todd throw any deep ones today? 
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08-05-2006, 09:34 AM
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Hate to see another late round draft choice look so poorly. Lefotu was hoped to back up guard and tackle....I guess not so much huh?
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08-05-2006, 10:41 AM
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Joe,
What are you seeing from rookie 7th round pick Kevin Simon? During minicamps Simon was reportedly catching on to the schemes very quickly and was going to get a look as the top backup to Lemar Marshall at the Mike. With the word that McCune has been struggling so far in camp, we don't really have a legitimate backup currently for Marshall.
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08-05-2006, 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by bgforever
How do the kickers, punters look?
this is red hot:
This allows more grooming on Jimoh as well, because the depth is ALREADY on the roster with PP being able to back three spots if needed and still be a gunner on Teams.
It also keeps Christian Morton from letting up on his game, if he's still going to be around.
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Jimoh excels on special teams, probably moreso than any other DB we carry. But as far as pure cover corners I think Morton and Patterson are better than Ade. Whether that is enough to make them better overall players remains to be seen.
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A buffalo herd can only move as fast as the slowest buffalo & those are killed first. This natural selection is good for the herd as a whole because the health of the herd keeps improving by the regular killing of the weakest members. Similarly, the human brain can only operate as fast as the slowest brain cells. Intake of alcohol, killing the slowest & weakest brain cells first, makes the brain a faster, more efficient machine. That's why you always feel smarter after a few beers.
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08-05-2006, 11:54 AM
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where is day 4's report?
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08-05-2006, 12:44 PM
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where is day 4's report?
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CLosed Practice. A Press pass wouldn't have gotten him far.
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08-05-2006, 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Keino
CLosed Practice. A Press pass wouldn't have gotten him far.
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ooohhh k. well let's hope that campbell had a day to remember, because as of late he's been pretty bad according to joe.
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08-05-2006, 03:57 PM
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JDS, I was at Friday's practice also. I tried to follow Keino's favorite Dennard Wilson. I only recall seeing his uniform number (39) briefly and I don't remember his taking hardly any snaps.
Do you know if he is being held out for some ailment, or is he just mired deep down the depth chart?
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