CB depth.....Ahmad Carroll is available - Page 4

csquared · #46 10-03-2006, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by shally

work him out.. but, again, who do you cut to keep him?

Well we cant give him Wrights #25 because its so charcoal black you cant tell its a Skins jersey.

shally · #47 10-03-2006, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Syllable

You would think that a Proud franchise wouldn't go through such a stink like this.[/QUOTE
They all do S.F, Miami, Buffalo, etc... Even our Redskins have been through a stink or 2. One was named Norv and the other was Steve.

san fran deserves to stink..forever...

shally · #48 10-03-2006, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by csquared

Well we cant give him Wrights #25 because its so charcoal black you cant tell its a Skins jersey.

too bad.. i thought that was one of our new black on blackened-burgundy unis we are going to trot out for the giant game...

csquared · #49 10-03-2006, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by shally

too bad.. i thought that was one of our new black on blackened-burgundy unis we are going to trot out for the giant game...

In all seriousness could he do any worse than Wright? I guess Wright had a decent play or 2 the last few games. But he is 29 Carroll is like 23? Shoot we get him in here get him to learn the system. Who knows he may prosper and then we take that 1st or 2nd rounder and fill another need.

Syllable · #50 10-03-2006, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by csquared

In all seriousness could he do any worse than Wright? I guess Wright had a decent play or 2 the last few games. But he is 29 Carroll is like 23? Shoot we get him in here get him to learn the system. Who knows he may prosper and then we take that 1st or 2nd rounder and fill another need.

I agree, Don't start Carroll untill he proves himself in nickel, but we can shape him into a man cover guy while Kenny does 2nd and 3rd when springs is back. I see no reason not to get a 23 year old guy with potential except for cap.

Meatsnack · #51 10-03-2006, 06:27 PM

Ahmad Carroll

5'10" 190# University of Arkansas

Picked 1st round, #25 overall, by the Green Bay Packers in April 2004.

Games Played: 34
Career Sacks: 3
Career Ints: 3 (38 yards)
Career PD: 21
Career Tackles: 95 (89 solo)
Fumbles recovered: 4
21 kicks returned for 421 yards (20 yard avg.)

Combine Timed 4.34 40-yard dash, 10'8" broad jump, 41" vertical leap
10.38 100-meters at the AAU Nationals.

We would be foolish not to have him in for a look. The Packers have no pass rush and crappy coaching. Anyone could look pretty bad in those circumstances.

MWballer · #52 10-03-2006, 06:29 PM

Who would u guys rather have Carroll or Curry Burns...Who's basically on the team due to P. Priealou's injury...I'd rather have Carroll he's got upside gives us another Corner and Doughty and Fox can prolly do the exact same thing that Burns has been doing.

shally · #53 10-03-2006, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by csquared

In all seriousness could he do any worse than Wright? I guess Wright had a decent play or 2 the last few games. But he is 29 Carroll is like 23? Shoot we get him in here get him to learn the system. Who knows he may prosper and then we take that 1st or 2nd rounder and fill another need.

wright has gotten a little better with each game.. but you just know, it would not be wright who was cut to make room for carroll.. and i do not want to lose jimoh..

shally · #54 10-03-2006, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by MWballer

Who would u guys rather have Carroll or Curry Burns...Who's basically on the team due to P. Priealou's injury...I'd rather have Carroll he's got upside gives us another Corner and Doughty and Fox can prolly do the exact same thing that Burns has been doing.

burns did look bad.. but fox is not much of a safety-- he is a special teamer. and doughty is not ready.. only if rumph is going to move to safety does it make sense to cut burns..

BurgundyNGold · #55 10-03-2006, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by redskin_rich

You guys are trashing this guy, deservedly so, but what if he gets brought in? It wouldn't surprise me, to tell you all the truth. Carroll was asked to do a lot of man coverage in Green Bay and that is probably not his strength. I don't know what his strength is but if the raw talent is there, I would give him a tryout at least.

First off, he has to clear waivers. Then 21 or so other teams have to decline putting in a claim on him. If we get him after all of that, what does that tell you?

If he's brought in then I'll support him. But that won't change the fact that he sucks.

Syllable · #56 10-03-2006, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by shally

wright has gotten a little better with each game.. but you just know, it would not be wright who was cut to make room for carroll.. and i do not want to lose jimoh..

Jimoh has been a backup his whole life though, and Carroll at least is better than Jimoh. If Carroll is clean I don't see why not play him. What I am thinking is that Carroll will probably want to be second cb at least and we cant give him that.

LATrueRedskin · #57 10-03-2006, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Meatsnack

Ahmad Carroll

5'10" 190# University of Arkansas

Picked 1st round, #25 overall, by the Green Bay Packers in April 2004.

Games Played: 34
Career Sacks: 3
Career Ints: 3 (38 yards)
Career PD: 21
Career Tackles: 95 (89 solo)
Fumbles recovered: 4
21 kicks returned for 421 yards (20 yard avg.)

Combine Timed 4.34 40-yard dash, 10'8" broad jump, 41" vertical leap
10.38 100-meters at the AAU Nationals.

We would be foolish not to have him in for a look. The Packers have no pass rush and crappy coaching. Anyone could look pretty bad in those circumstances.

I agree. And the Packers cut him purely as a scapegoat; out of frustration that their team sucks.

Meatsnack · #58 10-03-2006, 06:33 PM

According to this article his weakness seems to be a needs to put his hands on people unnecessarily - that is, he has the speed to keep up he just grabs out of habit.

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Carroll has speed and above-average cover abilities. He also has a penchant for picking up costly penalties that keep drives alive.

Right now, unless either Harris or Woodson gets injured or plays far below expectations, Carroll's high end for the 2006 season will be the role of nickel back. That's hardly what one would hope for a first-round pick.

So, it seems like the Packers were planning to play him at nickel, anyway.

MWballer · #59 10-03-2006, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by shally

wright has gotten a little better with each game.. but you just know, it would not be wright who was cut to make room for carroll.. and i do not want to lose jimoh..

I don't think we'd cut Jimoh I think its much more likely we cut C. Burns and move R. Doughty or give V. Fox some playing time. I think both could do the exact same job if not better as Burns is doing and at the same time maybe recycle someones career. The guy is only 23 I think it'd be a good move. Jimoh goes no where though thats been GW's project since day 1/

Syllable · #60 10-03-2006, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by BurgundyNGold

First off, he has to clear waivers. Then 21 or so other teams have to decline putting in a claim on him. If we get him after all of that, what does that tell you?

If he's brought in then I'll support him. But that won't change the fact that he sucks.

Yes plenty of other teams will be going after him. You know the Texans will be for sure, Giants since they do look like swiss cheese, and many others who can pay him for a more prominant role.