Arch speaks about losing starting job - Page 4

Dept_of_Defense · #46 11-08-2006, 04:37 PM

The fact that he acknowledges that he has sucked this year makes me give him a little bit of respect. He still needs to go out there and earn the salary that he's making. Right now he's that guy @ your job that either doesn't do anything or messes everything up when he tries to do something, but he still makes more money than you.

HailVictory · #47 11-08-2006, 05:33 PM

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That's because everyone at Redskin Park is on the message board.

For the longest time I thought Ack was Bram W., then I got to hear him on the radio and realized Ack was way to smart to be him.

greatest2 · #48 11-08-2006, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by shally

but i still think we need a stronger presence inthe middle of the defense

exactly!!!!!

but i think London fletcher is to old, don't we wish we still had Pierce, what a beast he was, and he was originally drafter by us

Oregonian · #49 11-08-2006, 08:02 PM

"Archuleta was the handpicked choice of assistant head coach-defense Gregg Williams..."

Just read the article and noticed that quote, which is interesting because it seems to get Vinny Cerrato (or Gibbs or Snyder or anyone else) off the hook as "the guy who decided to get Archuleta."

If you can believe the article, that guy was GW. And it makes you wonder about his personnel evaluation skills. Because I don't think anyone here would say that AA is capable of playing anywhere near commensurate with what he is getting paid.

A safety who is a liability when the other team throws the ball is a liability period.

I feel sorry for AA. He seems to be a class guy all around, and smart. Which is probably why GW liked him to start with...

70chip-on-1 · #50 11-09-2006, 11:44 AM

IMO Adam Archuleta should be cut. He simply does not have the goods to be a safety in the NFL. Against Dallas he was not only benched from the base defensive packages, but also nickel pkgs where 5 defensive backs are deployed. He's only plays in the dime w/ 6 DBs. THATS BAD... REAL BAD. On Dallas's last drive he was burned twice by tight ends! And we all know that Witten's catch over the middle should have ended the game. After watching NFL replay last night, anytime AA was on the field, Dallas attacked him relentlessly, with great success. He was also worthless when GW blitzed him, routinely getting swallowed up by RB's and TE's. I don't see any redeeming value to the guy. Safety's HAVE TO COVER THE PASS.. They are the safety net against the bomb... Linebackers are supposed to be the safety net against the run. I don't know if AA can play LB, but even linebackers have to cover TE's. How big was AA's signing bonus? I hate the notion of incurring dead cap money, but league minimum guys seem better. Sometimes players just drop off fast... its just how it goes.

shally · #51 11-09-2006, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by 70chip-on-1

IMO Adam Archuleta should be cut. He simply does not have the goods to be a safety in the NFL. Against Dallas he was not only benched from the base defensive packages, but also nickel pkgs where 5 defensive backs are deployed. He's only plays in the dime w/ 6 DBs. THATS BAD... REAL BAD. On Dallas's last drive he was burned twice by tight ends! And we all know that Witten's catch over the middle should have ended the game. After watching NFL replay last night, anytime AA was on the field, Dallas attacked him relentlessly, with great success. He was also worthless when GW blitzed him, routinely getting swallowed up by RB's and TE's. I don't see any redeeming value to the guy. Safety's HAVE TO COVER THE PASS.. They are the safety net against the bomb... Linebackers are supposed to be the safety net against the run. I don't know if AA can play LB, but even linebackers have to cover TE's. How big was AA's signing bonus? I hate the notion of incurring dead cap money, but league minimum guys seem better. Sometimes players just drop off fast... its just how it goes.

that would be an unfortunate overreaction to cut him..

he is not a negative influence inthe lockerroom and he tries hard. he has limitations and is not really being used to his best advantage.

we have already paid for his services this year so there is no financial reason to cut him. plus, what kind of message does it say to cut someone inthe middle of the year who is trying, but just getting beat?

who out there could we get who would be better? we got vincent, so the need is filled. who else do you want ?

let's see what he does the rest of the way and make a determination during the offseason as to what is best for the team.. if he needs to be cut, there willbe ample time to do so then..

vabeach_skinsfan · #52 11-09-2006, 01:13 PM

Sorry if someone already posted this, but I thought the article was pretty interesting. Sounds like Arch has more than football going on in his life. Hopefully he'll end up being th eplayer that we need him to be
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...110700916.html

skinfan43 · #53 11-09-2006, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by vabeach_skinsfan

Sorry if someone already posted this, but I thought the article was pretty interesting. Sounds like Arch has more than football going on in his life. Hopefully he'll end up being th eplayer that we need him to be
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...110700916.html

Sorry bro, it's like four threads below this one you just started

http://hailredskins.com/vbforum/showthread.php?t=38149

vabeach_skinsfan · #54 11-09-2006, 01:29 PM

my bad. I'm a day late and a dollar short

I guess the thread should be deleted.

70chip-on-1 · #55 11-09-2006, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by shally

that would be an unfortunate overreaction to cut him..

he is not a negative influence inthe lockerroom and he tries hard. he has limitations and is not really being used to his best advantage.

we have already paid for his services this year so there is no financial reason to cut him. plus, what kind of message does it say to cut someone inthe middle of the year who is trying, but just getting beat?

who out there could we get who would be better? we got vincent, so the need is filled. who else do you want ?

let's see what he does the rest of the way and make a determination during the offseason as to what is best for the team.. if he needs to be cut, there willbe ample time to do so then..

Yeah I agree, wait till the season is over.. However its too dangerous to put him out there anymore. QB's look for #40 and just throw. I can't emphasize enough after rewatching the Dallas game, that teams are targeting him. He knew coming into that game he would be abused and he was victimized over and over. I'm just saying at this point in the season, the redskins coaching staff has most certainly alarmed AA that he'll be pressed and maybe even given him help, but it doesn't matter. He is that much of a liability. If he remains on the field in passing situations, teams will continue to find ways to isolate him 1-on-1 and torch us.

skinfan43 · #56 11-09-2006, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by 70chip-on-1

Yeah I agree, wait till the season is over.. However its too dangerous to put him out there anymore. QB's look for #40 and just throw. I can't emphasize enough after rewatching the Dallas game, that teams are targeting him. He knew coming into that game he would be abused and he was victimized over and over. I'm just saying at this point in the season, the redskins coaching staff has most certainly alarmed AA that he'll be pressed and maybe even given him help, but it doesn't matter. He is that much of a liability. If he remains on the field in passing situations, teams will continue to find ways to isolate him 1-on-1 and torch us.

As I said to myself after that Witten completion with :08 to play, "I never want to see Archuleta at safety on our team again." As unreasonable as that sounds, as of right now he is as infamous at that spot as Jimoh used to be at corner a couple years ago. Not to say he can't improve, but for now only in special packages that can keep him from isolated coverage can I accept seeing him at safety. Not like I'll stop watching the Skins if he's back there, but I'll cringe every time I see a pass thrown

He is listed at 6'0"/225lbs...he is a converted linebacker. He is not a slender, delicate wideout or kicker. He's an exceptional tackler, a fast blitzer, and plays good special teams. So rotate him in at at WLB or in that 3-2-6 set ONLY...IMHO. Holdman's gone after the season, right? Have Arch gain 10 lbs. during the offseason and then rotate him (with Rocky starting) at WLB next season most of the time, or occasionally in the new 3-2-6 sets GW has implemented.

jtovb2005 · #57 11-09-2006, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by shally

unfortunately, right now he is looking like the downgraded version of matt stevens...

lol, I was having memories of David Terrel always chasing some receiver in the game winning 4th quarter highlite film.

greatest2 · #58 11-09-2006, 05:20 PM

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lol, I was having memories of David Terrel always chasing some receiver in the game winning 4th quarter highlite film.

yea, thats my thought of arch right now, terrel was supposed to be nice to

redwolf1218 · #59 11-09-2006, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by vabeach_skinsfan

Sorry if someone already posted this, but I thought the article was pretty interesting. Sounds like Arch has more than football going on in his life. Hopefully he'll end up being th eplayer that we need him to be
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...110700916.html

at least he can tackle:

...Archuleta is third on the team in tackles with 54 (behind Marcus Washington and Sean Taylor, who each have 55) and leads the team in solo tackles with 44.

In Sunday's win, Archuleta played mostly in third-down passing situations that featured six defensive backs...

why is he playing on passing downs when coverage is obviously his weakness? why not play him against the run? if he's playing on passing downs in packages with 6 defensive backs, shouldnt he be blitzing instead of trailing Whitten 25 yards down field?

could it be a misleading stat that he leads the team in solo tackles, indicating that he is late on coverage against the pass but he's there to make the tackle after giving up the catch? or does it mean he's good at diagnosing running plays and making open-field, one-on-one tackles against the run?

Oregonian · #60 11-09-2006, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by redwolf1218

could it be a misleading stat that he leads the team in solo tackles, indicating that he is late on coverage against the pass but he's there to make the tackle after giving up the catch?

Yes, I think it is more this than anything else. For instance, he got a tackle on that last catch by Witten to put the Cowf*s in FG range.

How many times this season have you said to yourself, "Wow, Archuleta blew up that play- what a hit!"? I can't think of any.