What sports teams do you dislike immensly?

[SpicyMcHaggis]

Originally Posted by RedskinsDave

I think this thread proves fairly definitively that people hate teams that win who are not one of their teams.

I agree completely. Once again, WAY too much hating going on for it to be real (like a Redskins-Cowboys hate real).

[MONK_in_HOF]

Originally Posted by RedskinsDave

I think this thread proves fairly definitively that people hate teams that win who are not one of their teams.

Maybe so, but who cares. I think most people get sick of the same teams succeeding if they aren't fans, especially if those teams are divisional foes or rivals of their favorite teams. I just think most sports fans will side with underdogs as opposed to perennial winners. When the perennial winners directly impact your favorite team on an annual basis it makes them easy to hate.

For me, I have reasons I hate all the teams I do. But in general I do side with underdogs, b/c in the end watching sports isn't that enjoyable when I am completely indifferent.

[RedskinsDave]

I hate teams that lose all the time and then have one or two decent years and everyone goes nuts about them. It's un-American to hate a winner.

[SpicyMcHaggis]

Originally Posted by MONK_for_HOF

Maybe so, but who cares. I think most people get sick of the same teams succeeding if they aren't fans, especially if those teams are divisional foes or rivals of their favorite teams. I just think most sports fans will side with underdogs as opposed to perennial winners. When the perennial winners directly impact your favorite team on an annual basis it makes them easy to hate.

For me, I have reasons I hate all the teams I do. But in general I do side with underdogs, b/c in the end watching sports isn't that enjoyable when I am completely indifferent.

There's a word for that..jealousy. I have no idea why a person would hate (and by hate I mean truly hate..again, like a Redskins fan hates the Cowboys) a team just because they win. I can understand siding with the underdog, I can understand wanting to see different teams succeding, I can understand wishing your team was there instead of them, but to hate them just because they win? That sounds kinda lame to me.

[MONK_in_HOF]

Originally Posted by SpicyMcHaggis

There's a word for that..jealousy. I have no idea why a person would hate (and by hate I mean truly hate..again, like a Redskins fan hates the Cowboys) a team just because they win. I can understand siding with the underdog, I can understand wanting to see different teams succeding, I can understand wishing your team was there instead of them, but to hate them just because they win? That sounds kinda lame to me.

I didn't mean to imply people hate teams JUST b/c they are successful. I don't know many people who say I hate a team b/c they win. Although I do feel repeated success can factor heavily into disliking teams.

The reasons you listed as understanding are just a few reasons people hate teams. You don't perceive wanting your team to be there instead as jealousy? Is there criteria that must be met before it is acceptable to hate a team in your mind?

Aren't you jealous when Milan and Juve constantly win serie A? You can say it is only hatred, but I am sure jealousy factors into that hatred. I mean who doesn't want their team to be in the winners circle?

For me there are several reasons I dislike the teams I do. I hate the knicks and the only thing they have won in my lifetime is second place in the eastern conference.

I certainly think repeated success can increase hatred for certain teams, especially if there was a dislike already. The best teams are covered endlessly and thus those teams and personnel within are subject to more scrutiny. Mediocre teams that wallow in obscurity seldom suffer the same fate.

I also think the perception of have and have not can amplify hatred as well. I will use the obviously examples of Chelsea and NYY. These teams obviously have funds at their disposal other teams don't. I just don't find it easy to root for teams I perceive to have competitive advantages, especially when having a passion for a competitor in the same league/association/etc...

I just think there are so many factors that lead people to hate teams and it is seldom JUST b/c they win. Even though winning factors in for many reasons, some of which I listed above, it is seldom the sole reason I hear for someone hating a team. In my eyes there is a difference between just getting sick of seeing a team winning and actually hating a team.

[BurgundyNGold]

Originally Posted by SpicyMcHaggis

There's a word for that..jealousy. I have no idea why a person would hate (and by hate I mean truly hate..again, like a Redskins fan hates the Cowboys) a team just because they win. I can understand siding with the underdog, I can understand wanting to see different teams succeding, I can understand wishing your team was there instead of them, but to hate them just because they win? That sounds kinda lame to me.

I agree with this sentiment. However, there is nothing wrong for hating a team because of *how* they win. This could be their style of play, how they recruit, etc. A lot of folks hate the Yankees and the Red Sox because of how much more loot they (can) dump into their teams as compared to every other team. They can only do this because of the markets that they're in. That would seemingly give them an advantage over smaller market teams, which would make them the pohibitive favorite, or the anti-underdog. If you go in for underdogs, it would make sense that you might not particularly care for the Yanks or the Sox, given how and why they're the odds-on favorite every year.

[Dept_of_Defense]

The Yankees lineup is just ridiculous. Once you get past Jeter, you have to pitch to A-Rod, Abreu, Giambi, and Matsui? That's gotta be a nightmare for any team. You can't really dislike them for that b/c if those guys were on your team, you would love it.

[MONK_in_HOF]

Originally Posted by BurgundyNGold

I agree with this sentiment. However, there is nothing wrong for hating a team because of *how* they win. This could be their style of play, how they recruit, etc. A lot of folks hate the Yankees and the Red Sox because of how much more loot they (can) dump into their teams as compared to every other team. They can only do this because of the markets that they're in. That would seemingly give them an advantage over smaller market teams, which would make them the pohibitive favorite, or the anti-underdog. If you go in for underdogs, it would make sense that you might not particularly care for the Yanks or the Sox, given how and why they're the odds-on favorite every year.

Exactly. I don't think it is as simple as people don't like a team b/c they win. I just think that winning increases disdain that is already there.

On the topic of rooting solely based on wins, I think there are more people who root for teams solely based on wins than against them. It is easy for anybody to pick out a winning team or recognizable team (usually winners) and claim they are a fan. This doesn't require any interest or knowledge in the sport whatsoever other than knowing a team name.
I feel in order to really hate a team you have to have at least some knowledge and passion for the sport itself. This passion is usually accompanied by a passion for a particular team.

Edit: Obviously to truly root for a team you have to have passion and knowledge for that sport. I just feel there are many more bandwagon fans than bandwagon "haters".

[SpicyMcHaggis]

Originally Posted by BurgundyNGold

I agree with this sentiment. However, there is nothing wrong for hating a team because of *how* they win. This could be their style of play, how they recruit, etc. A lot of folks hate the Yankees and the Red Sox because of how much more loot they (can) dump into their teams as compared to every other team. They can only do this because of the markets that they're in. That would seemingly give them an advantage over smaller market teams, which would make them the pohibitive favorite, or the anti-underdog. If you go in for underdogs, it would make sense that you might not particularly care for the Yanks or the Sox, given how and why they're the odds-on favorite every year.

I agree.
I have one word for you: Juventus. They win for alot of reasons, but unfortunately among those reasons there are buying referees, choosing which refs are assigned to which games, buying players thanks to illegal cooperations with other teams, and using steroids and creatine.
I hate Juventus with a passion. Really. I feel very strongly about this. Ask akh, he'll confirm it (after giving me the "jealous" link..lol...).

[SpicyMcHaggis]

Originally Posted by MONK_for_HOF

I didn't mean to imply people hate teams JUST b/c they are successful. I don't know many people who say I hate a team b/c they win. Although I do feel repeated success can factor heavily into disliking teams.

The reasons you listed as understanding are just a few reasons people hate teams. You don't perceive wanting your team to be there instead as jealousy? Is there criteria that must be met before it is acceptable to hate a team in your mind?

Aren't you jealous when Milan and Juve constantly win serie A? You can say it is only hatred, but I am sure jealousy factors into that hatred. I mean who doesn't want their team to be in the winners circle?

For me there are several reasons I dislike the teams I do. I hate the knicks and the only thing they have won in my lifetime is second place in the eastern conference.

I certainly think repeated success can increase hatred for certain teams, especially if there was a dislike already. The best teams are covered endlessly and thus those teams and personnel within are subject to more scrutiny. Mediocre teams that wallow in obscurity seldom suffer the same fate.

I also think the perception of have and have not can amplify hatred as well. I will use the obviously examples of Chelsea and NYY. These teams obviously have funds at their disposal other teams don't. I just don't find it easy to root for teams I perceive to have competitive advantages, especially when having a passion for a competitor in the same league/association/etc...

I just think there are so many factors that lead people to hate teams and it is seldom JUST b/c they win. Even though winning factors in for many reasons, some of which I listed above, it is seldom the sole reason I hear for someone hating a team. In my eyes there is a difference between just getting sick of seeing a team winning and actually hating a team.

I agree with you, and I wasn't referring to you when I was saying that it was lame to hate a team just because they win..I didn't think you did that. But I think there are quite a few people that do.
As for myself, and the two teams you listed, I don't hate Milan, even though they use their influence quite often to help themselves. But they win because they have a ton of money, buy the best players available, and play a good style of football. I can't really hate them for that. And besides, given how much I hate the other two teams I listed, Lazio and Juve, I really don't have enough evergy to hate another one. As for Juventus, I'm not gonna say exactly how much I hate them or what I would enjoy seeing happen to them, because this is a family site.
And I am absolutely NOT jealous of Milan or Juventus in any way. Regardless of what akh says.

[MONK_in_HOF]

Originally Posted by SpicyMcHaggis

I agree with you, and I wasn't referring to you when I was saying that it was lame to hate a team just because they win..I didn't think you did that. But I think there are quite a few people that do.
As for myself, and the two teams you listed, I don't hate Milan, even though they use their influence quite often to help themselves. But they win because they have a ton of money, buy the best players available, and play a good style of football. I can't really hate them for that. And besides, given how much I hate the other two teams I listed, Lazio and Juve, I really don't have enough evergy to hate another one. As for Juventus, I'm not gonna say exactly how much I hate them or what I would enjoy seeing happen to them, because this is a family site.
And I am absolutely NOT jealous of Milan or Juventus in any way. Regardless of what akh says.

Even though they have the coolest home uniforms in Serie A? Except for this season of course.

[SpicyMcHaggis]

Originally Posted by MONK_for_HOF

Even though they have the coolest home uniforms in Serie A?

***barf***

By the way, Juve is not in Serie A.

[dj_stouty]

Isn't the purpose of this thread to list teams you "dislike immensly"?

Not exactly "hate" in my book, but whatever.

[SpicyMcHaggis]

Originally Posted by dj_stouty

Isn't the purpose of this thread to list teams you "dislike immensly"?

Not exactly "hate" in my book, but whatever.

Oh. I thought it was pretty much the same thing..but I could be wrong...

[BurgundyNGold]

Originally Posted by dj_stouty

Isn't the purpose of this thread to list teams you "dislike immensly"?

Not exactly "hate" in my book, but whatever.

What team are you on?