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Old 03-26-2007, 11:43 AM
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i also dont understand what cooley needs to "rebound from." he only had about 50 less yards receiving than the previous year, but his YPC went from 11 to 13. statistically, theres not really that much difference between his 2nd and third years.
He really struggled in the early part of the season and didn't have the same impact as he did in 2005. Now with a season of Saunders under his belt, I think he'll top his '05 numbers.
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Old 03-26-2007, 11:44 AM
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Lock him up during the season or pay the consequences Danny...
He is worth it, and everyone knows that's not just an opinion.
If he wants 15-16 mill guaranteed, budget it into our cap, whatever it takes...plus, he's ALREADY JC's favorite target.
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while true, when daniel friggin graham receives $15million guaranteed, then you just cant be too sure of what cooley thinks he's worth. he is more valuable to this team than graham was to the pats, yet denver felt he was worth that kind of money. i'd like cooley's extension done as soon as possible, and that both sides are happy about the deal.
yeah but denver has been desparate for a tightend for a long time. i also agree that graham is way overpaid. but hey, it seems only a few teams have top notch pass catching tight ends, and we are one of them, the teams that dont are looking for one. i say pay him what it takes to get it done.
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It's gonna be shame to see him go.
ahhh! dont say that. i think chris will be resigned in due time.
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Old 03-26-2007, 01:06 PM
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ahhh! dont say that. i think chris will be resigned in due time.
If he is not signed to an extension before the start of the regular season then I would puty him at a 3-1 odds of resigning with us. That goes up to 10-1 at the end of the season. 20-1 if it gets to FA next year.

Whatever the reason we do not do a good job of signing our homegrown talent onto an extension before the end of the contract year. 2 exceptions were Betts last year and Lavar in 2003. Lavar's extension did not work oout so well and Betts is a backup RB who put an emphasis on staying here instead of chasing a starting job.

But the list goes on of the FAs that moved on to greener ($$) pastures. Smoot, Pierce, Clark, Dockery, Bailey all ended up moving on after their contract expired one way opr another.

The good news is that despite some massive $$ Cooley can and should be franchised next year if things dont go well.
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Old 03-26-2007, 01:09 PM
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If he is not signed to an extension before the start of the regular season then I would puty him at a 3-1 odds of resigning with us. That goes up to 10-1 at the end of the season. 20-1 if it gets to FA next year.

Whatever the reason we do not do a good job of signing our homegrown talent onto an extension before the end of the contract year. 2 exceptions were Betts last year and Lavar in 2003. Lavar's extension did not work oout so well and Betts is a backup RB who put an emphasis on staying here instead of chasing a starting job.

But the list goes on of the FAs that moved on to greener ($$) pastures. Smoot, Pierce, Clark, Dockery, Bailey all ended up moving on after their contract expired one way opr another.

The good news is that despite some massive $$ Cooley can and should be franchised next year if things dont go well.
worse case scenario he can be franchised and then a long term deal reached.. but it will be cheaper, FAR CHEAPER to do it now
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didn't we give up draft picks or trade some to move up? If he is gone next year then it's another check mark in the we need a gm column.


If he finds one of those dockery deals thou, it's been nice.
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If he is not signed to an extension before the start of the regular season then I would puty him at a 3-1 odds of resigning with us. That goes up to 10-1 at the end of the season. 20-1 if it gets to FA next year.

Whatever the reason we do not do a good job of signing our homegrown talent onto an extension before the end of the contract year. 2 exceptions were Betts last year and Lavar in 2003. Lavar's extension did not work oout so well and Betts is a backup RB who put an emphasis on staying here instead of chasing a starting job.

But the list goes on of the FAs that moved on to greener ($$) pastures. Smoot, Pierce, Clark, Dockery, Bailey all ended up moving on after their contract expired one way opr another.

The good news is that despite some massive $$ Cooley can and should be franchised next year if things dont go well.
Count Samuels, Jansen and Sellers on the guys who have been locked up long term.
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If he is not signed to an extension before the start of the regular season then I would puty him at a 3-1 odds of resigning with us. That goes up to 10-1 at the end of the season. 20-1 if it gets to FA next year.
oh i know. im saying it'll get done, but im not sure it'll get done until the draft is over, june 1st rolls around and holes get filled.
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Count Samuels, Jansen and Sellers on the guys who have been locked up long term.
I was about to point those out, especially Samuels and Jansen, who were both extended the first time, during their final season under contract.

I'll go on the record right now in saying that Cooley will get a new deal before the season starts or during this season at the latest. My opinion, of course.
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worse case scenario he can be franchised and then a long term deal reached.. but it will be cheaper, FAR CHEAPER to do it now
Actually that would be a pretty good scenario..worst case scenario is that he gets franchised and leaves the following year (or demands a trade, a la Briggs).
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Count Samuels, Jansen and Sellers on the guys who have been locked up long term.
And those are examples of how we need to do it. Those extensions were done well in advance of their free agency date. I think mid season on their last year or beforte. We end the season without a contract for Cooley and it aint a good thing.
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And those are examples of how we need to do it. Those extensions were done well in advance of their free agency date. I think mid season on their last year or beforte. We end the season without a contract for Cooley and it aint a good thing.
Any other reason why we would have cut Patten now??? I think it's cause we've got a deal in place with Cooley... which will get annouced 10 days after it's been signed. Like all the other signings this offseason.
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Count Samuels, Jansen and Sellers on the guys who have been locked up long term.
Betts, Portis, Moss (granted Portis and Moss were first deals with Washington)...

IMO the guys we lost were NOT worth the money they got in FA, and I'm glad they are gone.
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i said it a few weeks ago and i'll say it again now - i predict we will sign cooley to the largest contract ever for a TE before the draft.
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