New Springs Interview ESPN

[chrisbcbu]

Wow! I read everyone responses before reading the article so i thought Springs said something that was out of line or not true.

the only thing he really said that was bad was that he lost his phone. Well he still could have called from a house phone or something like that. But other than this i dont see any problems with what he said.

Springs, figuring he would command plenty of attention from other teams if the Redskins cut him, essentially called the team's bluff. He would only play under the contract he signed.

this sounds more like the reporter making an assumption as to why Springs didnt want to take a pay cut.

[CNYSkinFan]

Originally Posted by chrisbcbu

Wow! I read everyone responses before reading the article so i thought Springs said something that was out of line or not true.

the only thing he really said that was bad was that he lost his phone. Well he still could have called from a house phone or something like that. But other than this i dont see any problems with what he said.



this sounds more like the reporter making an assumption as to why Springs didnt want to take a pay cut.

Chris it is much more fun to banter about how Springs is a ***CBS*** then to read articles. Stop being a buzzkill.

[akhhorus]

Originally Posted by CNYSkinFan

Chris it is much more fun to banter about how Springs is a ***CBS*** then to read articles. Stop being a buzzkill.

Right, because those of us who dare to criticize Lord Springs didn't read the article because it showed how warm and selfless the man is why does springs get such a pass on being difficult? Even if the skins asked him for a paycut(which I don't believe), that doesn't excuse him running his mouth and skipping workouts sans a reason. My god, y'all are turning into the ramseyites with springs.

[James F. Quinn]

Originally Posted by akhhorus

Right, because those of us who dare to criticize Lord Springs didn't read the article because it showed how warm and selfless the man is why does springs get such a pass on being difficult? Even if the skins asked him for a paycut(which I don't believe), that doesn't excuse him running his mouth and skipping workouts sans a reason. My god, y'all are turning into the ramseyites with springs.

I'm curious. Why don't you believe about the pay cut? LaCanfora and Bryant of the Post have referred to it routinely for months, and they never put it as "alleged by Springs". Rick Snider of the Examinar refers to it as fact as well. Journalists are usually pretty cautious about things like that.

[NCskinsfanatic]

I say trade him for Schobel ...

[Keino]

Originally Posted by urobm

Bingo!!!!! When he can play more than half the season, then he can run his mouth. He really has some nerve. I think he might be overestimating his value on the open market. He is still productive when healthy, but how often it that? If we could get a 3rd rounder for him I say dump him. Ok maybe a little haste, he still is the #1 CB but his attitude is crap. I just never knew of Springs having this demeanor.

15 games 1st year, 15 games 2nd year, 9 games last year. He's been healthy 81% of his time here in DC. If you take away last year, you are talking 94% of his time here. I really think some of the comments here are unfair.

The guy is our best CB, he knows it...hence the cockiness.

I don't particularly care for the Saftey quote, especially when it sounds alot like Lavar did his last year, plus moving to saftey to prolong his career was his idea not the team's.

I have no problems with the first quote because the context was what he told the team back when he was approached about a pay cut.

[chrisbcbu]

When the Washington Redskins asked Shawn Springs to take a pay cut, he said no.

"You only get two choices," Springs told The Associated Press on Thursday. "Either keep me, or let me go."

So the Skins asked him to take a pay cut. He told them no. Which leaves the team with 2 options. Keep him or cut him. He didnt say anything that wasnt false. He didnt say anything bad about the Skins/coach/owner, he stated a fact.

In his first interview since rejoining the team for offseason workouts, Springs put his eventful offseason in very simple terms. He seemed bemused about the attention he's been receiving, wondering aloud more than once why he's in such demand.

"I ain't going to be the type of person that causes drama," Springs said with a smile. "You know how my personality is. I'm so easygoing and laid-back."

So he doesnt want to cause any drama, but did he really cause it? Skins wanted him to take a pay cut, he said no! They then tried to trade him.(Sounds like the Skins caused the drama to me)

Granted he should have kept his mouth shut to the media and kept it behind closed doors and worked it out with the coaching staff.

Springs, figuring he would command plenty of attention from other teams if the Redskins cut him, essentially called the team's bluff. He would only play under the contract he signed.

"Either you want me or you don't," Springs said. "All that other stuff, that ain't important."

This sounds more of cutting Springs words and placing them after a reporters comments to make it into something its not.

Springs complicated matters by not showing up for the start of voluntary spring practices in early May, deciding instead to remain in Arizona to pursue his own workout regimen. He and safety Sean Taylor were the only notable absentees during the first week, and Taylor eventually reported. Coach Joe Gibbs told reporters he had "lost contact" with Springs.

"I lost my phone," Springs said with a shrug. "That happens."

This part i have a problem with. I know if i lost my phone, then i would either A)get a new one immediately or B) call my company from a house phone and let them know what is going on.

More seriously, Springs said he preferred to complete the program he had begun in Arizona.

I wish he would have come to OTAs and completed his workout here rather than in AZ. im sure they have the same equippment in DC or could get it if needed.

Then, when he finally did report last week, he had to leave abruptly when he got a call from his pregnant wife. She has since given birth to a boy -- "everything's good," he said -- and he was at Redskins Park on Thursday to have his physical in preparation for the mandatory three-day minicamp that begins Friday

Anyone who has a problem with this should be kicked.

"This minicamp's going to be rough," said Springs, referring to the baby at home, "because I ain't getting no sleep."

The nerve of him using his newborn as an excuse to why he is going to suck in minicamp.

Springs is still probably the cream of that crop, and the team's thoughts about possibly moving him to safety faded when Washington selected LaRon Landry with the No. 6 overall pick in the draft in April.

"I don't know why they were talking about that anyway," Springs said of the move to safety. "Maybe they don't think I'm a good corner."

Tough to judge this without actually hearing him say this. As everyone knows its tough to read sarcasm. But that is how i took it. If not then it could be a problem.

Springs said he has not sought to have a clear-the-air talk with Gibbs. The very fact that he'll be on the field Friday in a Redskins uniform says all that needs to be said.

"I'm here, so they want me here," Springs said. "And nothing else matters."

It would be better if he sought Gibbs out. But maybe the "fans" are the ones who are blowing his situation way out of proportion(sp?)

no_trick_pony (6/15/2007 at 4:44 AM)

Everytime some guy holds out or wants to renegotiate his contract or doesn't want to be franchise tagged, every pro-management goon in the espn message board universe comes out to cry about how the guy's an overpaid athlete and cry-baby for not honoring his contract and a bunch of other stuff like that. Can we get a few boo-hoos and world's tineyest violin's playing for Redskins' management this time then? Waaaaa, we have to pay our contracted player what we agreed to.

Im sorry but i found this guys comments amusing.
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[James F. Quinn]

Originally Posted by chrisbcbu

It would be better if he sought Gibbs out. But maybe the "fans" are the ones who are blowing his situation way out of proportion(sp?).

I'm trying to think whether many of those clear-the-air sessions with Gibbs ever worked out very well for the player/team

Lavar?

AA?

Ramsey?

Anyone think of others?

Originally Posted by NCskinsfanatic

I say trade him for Schobel ...

I got an inkling of this and when I read a player had been signed, before I knew WHO, I was like....uh oh...did they do it????

Of course the signee turned out to be Willis, WR, with a history of practice squad, avg use in college, if not lower. Soooo, I didn't bring it up.
The mystery is about to unfold faster now, as it is clear we move forward into the "mandatory" mini and TC with a set agenda and no monkeying around with the TEAM preparatiion timetable.

I give the edge to the Skins in this one, because the best way to get to the QB is fresh secondary players in layers, in case your #1 Corner gets hurt as often as ours does, and apply far more pressure on the QB, lanes. The depth is there, the starters are there, though one is replaceble as a starter. Schobel is a FAR BETTER fit at the DL than Briggs was as a LB in a corps that actually is set to do damage like a Navy Fleet!

Originally Posted by James F. Quinn

I'm trying to think whether many of those clear-the-air sessions with Gibbs ever worked out very well for the player/team

Lavar?

AA?

Ramsey?

Anyone think of others?

LOl! how true you are. I stated months ago, we have better option this year, than ever before, and it is - we survive with or without Springs, to the point of getting things done, if a team is willing to take on Spring's contract, say like Arizona, Oakland, Houston or Indianapolis. However, Schobel for Springs is very, very attractive. If Springs likes to get off on how much chatter is out there for him, then he won and lost. No player, no matter what sport or how great, ever got FULL support from the masses. Some players found out later, they had bigger followings than the BIG NAMED player, just that the smaller following of the superstar, had more control of information, media, etc.

Springs is not only popular with his performance, he's generally a likeable guy, period, just like Portis, JC, Moss and the rest of them, it just that when business enters in the equation, he must expect some dislike, even hate to surface from fans as he turns his sights to other teams. Not that the dislike and hate is justified, just that s happens, ok. Teams have agendas as a group and when there's nothing left but to part ways, we all know that sound of emptiness in the void and then the breaking unfortunate news.

[AGibbsGirl]

Originally Posted by CNYSkinFan

Chris it is much more fun to banter about how Springs is a ***CBS*** then to read articles. Stop being a buzzkill.

I did read the article and thought he was speaking like someone with more power then he deserves. I want him to prove himself on the field (that he is fully recovered from his injuries) before he gives out ultimatums.

I really do like Springs but you have to admit last season was dismal I would have liked to learn why they asked him to take a pay cut, was it purely for cap reasons? or maybe the trainers know something about his health that wasn't discussed in this article?

...but I suppose he won in the long run, because as he said, he's here

[NCskinsfanatic]

Originally Posted by AGibbsGirl

I did read the article and thought he was speaking like someone with more power then he deserves. I want him to prove himself on the field (that he is fully recovered from his injuries) before he gives out ultimatums.

I really do like Springs but you have to admit last season was dismal I would have liked to learn why they asked him to take a pay cut, was it purely for cap reasons? or maybe the trainers know something about his health that wasn't discussed in this article?

...but I suppose he won in the long run, because as he said, he's here

My thoughts exactly, he seems a little blunt about being a Redskin, like I dont care who I play for, or how good our team is... just pay me. I'd rather pay someone that wants to be here and can be bothered to have conversations about it. He's the son of a former Cowboy star, his heart isnt in DC IMO. And we have players on this team that seem to care about more than just their paycheck...IMO Shawns being overly arrogant, and folks he may be the best we have but he's not in the top 5 at his position IMO, someone needs to tell him that.

Originally Posted by NCskinsfanatic

My thoughts exactly, he seems a little blunt about being a Redskin, like I dont care who I play for, or how good our team is... just pay me. I'd rather pay someone that wants to be here and can be bothered to have conversations about it. He's the son of a former Cowboy star, his heart isnt in DC IMO. And we have players on this team that seem to care about more than just their paycheck...IMO Shawns being overly arrogant, and folks he may be the best we have but he's not in the top 5 at his position IMO, someone needs to tell him that.

OMG was he the HIDDEN cancer no one wanted to talk about,while we thought it was LaVar?

See what we are just now finding out or will find out,is already known in the lockerroom and in the coaches minds. The FO can tell by the timeliness of the stall, the TYPE of contact being played out (i.e. SS is using the MEDIA source to confer - not confer wrap it up and THEN give the MEDIA source the info. When a player wants "favortism", he uses the mass media approach. Quickest litmus test and survey response, using blogs, emaills, mb, press releases to see where he stands in a "favored" fight. When it is clear the media sway won't work, the settlement is finally reached. This settlement is coming due soon, I believe somewhere in Monday or Tuesday.

[gibbsisgod]

Originally Posted by CarMike

These guys egos are amazing.

when you have the cash and know you can get more in the open market. springs is really showing his true colors....green

[HanburgerBum]

Originally Posted by James F. Quinn

I'm trying to think whether many of those clear-the-air sessions with Gibbs ever worked out very well for the player/team

Lavar?

AA?

Ramsey?

Anyone think of others?

Oh, I don't know. I thought the sessions worked out great. All these bums are gone, aren't they?