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08-16-2007, 08:33 AM
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Don't cut him some slack, just cut him
A certain DC sportwriter wants an under-performing Redskins wideout cut immediately. Find out who and what I think about it by reading this.
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08-16-2007, 08:49 AM
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A certain DC sportwriter wants an under-performing Redskins wideout cut immediately. Find out who and what I think about it by reading this.
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If Lloyd isn't aware of his status then he's blind. That being said, his play will determine his future. The coaches slotting ARE as #2 along with their comments about needing much more from Lloyd tell me that they are paying attention.
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08-16-2007, 08:56 AM
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A certain DC sportwriter wants an under-performing Redskins wideout cut immediately. Find out who and what I think about it by reading this.
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I don't think he should be cut yet. He barely deserves it but I think he should get another chance to prove himself and hopefully show his attitude has changed and he is ready to be a team player.
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08-16-2007, 08:58 AM
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Elfin is blind to the cap ramifications of such a move. He is the same guy who postulated the Lavar for Moss deal a few years back. THe Redskins could not afford to release or trade both AA and LLoyd this year. They chose to keep Lloyd. LLoyd has one more year as a Redskin and releasing him will be more pallatable next year.
HOWEVER we better hope he sticks because releasing him will make it hard to give Cooley an extension next year and almost impossible to give Taylor one as well.
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08-16-2007, 09:00 AM
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If a tree falls on Lloyd in the forest, would anybody hear it? If Lloyd gets cut from this team, would anybody care? I would miss him as much as I miss Archuleta.
But I am willing to allow him a re-chance to prove his worth to this team.....if he want's to....it all depends on the status of his rap career I guess.
I didn't like his "I did what I did and I'm not going to change for anybody" response last year in regards to his helmet toss last year.
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08-16-2007, 09:10 AM
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A certain DC sportwriter wants an under-performing Redskins wideout cut immediately. Find out who and what I think about it by reading this.
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foolish to cut him now
let's see what he does in the next couple of games. but i would keep him on a very short leash
chris carter turned himself around. ditto irving fryar. it's not too late for lloyd-- IF he gets his head into the game
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08-16-2007, 09:12 AM
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i dont think the coaches share this reporter's opinion of Lloyd.
Said wide receivers coach Stan Hixon: "He is bigger, but he still has the speed. He still has a fast first step, if not faster."
Hixon was asked if Lloyd's struggles were related to his transition to Saunders' timing-based offense.
"In Al's offense, we do throw to spots on timing, while in San Francisco they probably ran a different offense," Hixon said. "But I wouldn't put it on anything like that. We have to put him into position to make plays.
"We've been happy with Brandon. He does some things on the field that no one else can do. We have to take advantage of that."
http://www.redskins.com/news/newsDetail.jsp?id=28024
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08-16-2007, 09:15 AM
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foolish to cut him now
let's see what he does in the next couple of games. but i would keep him on a very short leash
chris carter turned himself around. ditto irving fryar. it's not too late for lloyd-- IF he gets his head into the game
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It's just empty Media prattle. Lloyd has the talent to be a good player, and the motivation to drop the attitude. Cut him prematurely, and he will go to NY, or Philly or Dallas and kill us for the next 8-10 years.
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08-16-2007, 09:25 AM
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My biggest worry is that due to the musical chairs of the OL, the offense will not get any rhythem with the running game or the passing game. That has bigger ramifications than Lloyd's attitude.
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08-16-2007, 09:29 AM
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It's just empty Media prattle. Lloyd has the talent to be a good player, and the motivation to drop the attitude. Cut him prematurely, and he will go to NY, or Philly or Dallas and kill us for the next 8-10 years.
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maybe.. i doubt the giants want another head case to go along with burress. but the real risk is that we leave ourselves very thin at receiver if we cut him too soon.
give him a chance. there should be no rush to judgement
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08-16-2007, 09:30 AM
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My biggest worry is that due to the musical chairs of the OL, the offense will not get any rhythem with the running game or the passing game. That has bigger ramifications than Lloyd's attitude.
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i hope and think things will settle down starting this weekend. pucillo at least is a real guard
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08-16-2007, 09:35 AM
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i hope and think things will settle down starting this weekend. pucillo at least is a real guard
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I like Pucillo at guard. Small, squat, and knows the position. I think Wade will take over at LT for preseason till Samuels gets fit. The reason why I posted that is that if the OL doesn't gel, then we have problems in the passing game which could hamper Lloyd even more. I don't know what his problem is, but he seems to be a different WR this year. If there are timing problems early, look to see how he reacts. I think he knows that if he mouths off once, he is gone.
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08-16-2007, 09:38 AM
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As big a pain as Lloyd is, the guy is a WR and we are as thin as Kate Moss at a vomitorium at that position. And, though I hate to admit it, shin-splints are painful with an upper case P. They are not a minor thing for a guy who depends on speed.
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08-16-2007, 09:39 AM
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Lloyd reminds me of Gary Clark, one of my all-time favorites. he yelled and screamed and threw his helmet a few times too. these guys are some of the most fierce competitors on the planet. i dont expect them to be church choir boys.
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08-16-2007, 09:41 AM
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Lloyd admitted that this offseason was the first one during which he ever really worked out, and the result has been that he has missed half of training camp with shin splints.
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So, we should reward his off-season work by cutting him because he sustained an injury? Is this guy for real?
I'm not a Lloyd supporter by any stretch of the imagination, but I can't see how we're better off by cutting a guy, who has rededicated himself to improving, and is saying all the right things to the press, before he's had a chance to see the field (a decision made by the trainers).
The time for cutting Lloyd has past. We chose to release Arch instead. Lloyd has a 1 year reprieve. If he is anything less than admirable this year, then I'll jump on the "Cut Lloyd, Now!" bandwagon.
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