Do we dare the Giants and press coverage their wr's

[jaylen]

Its an interesting dilema. Was the Eagles game a revelation or just the realization that the Eagles wr's and McNabb can't connect right now on the deep shots. Both Brown and Curtis have very good speed I did not buy the conversation that they couldn't get down field they both can get deep they struggle with the jam at the line apparently though and could't run by our corners.

Now with Plastico and Toomer both being bigger wr's, do we dare the Giants by doing the same thing to them and pressing them.

My theory is we discovered Monday night that Rogers can actualy press guys. We've never really consistently used him that way and may have discovered that he's actually pretty good doing so. Springs excels there so not much to think about in that instance.

Now with Shockey being a real threat at tight end we're gonna need one of our safeties most likely to watch him which would leave the corners on an island. Do we risk it.

I'm not certain. Once again we get the benefit of looking at the Packers game and after the 1st half where the Giants burned them a couple times he Packers secondary settled down and contained them.

What do you guys think

[remaxjon]

Originally Posted by jaylen

Its an interesting dilema. Was the Eagles game a revelation or just the realization that the Eagles wr's and McNabb can't connect right now on the deep shots. Both Brown and Curtis have very good speed I did not buy the conversation that they couldn't get down field they both can get deep they struggle with the jam at the line apparently though and could't run by our corners.

Now with Plastico and Toomer both being bigger wr's, do we dare the Giants by doing the same thing to them and pressing them.

My theory is we discovered Monday night that Rogers can actualy press guys. We've never really consistently used him that way and may have discovered that he's actually pretty good doing so. Springs excels there so not much to think about in that instance.

Now with Shockey being a real threat at tight end we're gonna need one of our safeties most likely to watch him which would leave the corners on an island. Do we risk it.

I'm not certain. Once again we get the benefit of looking at the Packers game and after the 1st half where the Giants burned them a couple times he Packers secondary settled down and contained them.

What do you guys think

I don't think we should press them. The Giants won't be able to run the ball and there d sucks. We should be able to score and control the clock. If the d plays soft Eli will eventually make a mistake trying to keep up with our o.

[Skins-R-Us]

It would be in Greg Williams best interest to mix it up. Switch up from Zone to Man and see how the G-girls react. Nothing says you have to stick to one coverage scheme per game.

[jaylen]

Originally Posted by Skins-R-Us

It would be in Greg Williams best interest to mix it up. Switch up from Zone to Man and see how the G-girls react. Nothing says you have to stick to one coverage scheme per game.

I agree but we generally have a team philosophy week to week with our agressiveness level. We didn't seem to wanna get too agressive against the Dolphins and sat back, against the Eagles we attacked with press most of the game until the end.

Mixing it up maybe half the time would be smart this week possibly. I guess it depends on how the game is going.

[Moe]

I think Plaxico is struggling a little with a gimpy ankle, so I guess it remains to be seen what he shows up with. It should be noted that Rogers has had some nice games in manning up T.O. in spots as well, so there is some logic in offering this up.

I anticpate that GW will use it far less than what we saw on MNF, but it'll get some looks. As you noted the key to it all could be Shockey and how they plan to deal with him, along with the best means to rattle Manning. The Giants don't have any singular threat a la Westbrook to contend with, but they have the potential (should they execute) to have the most threatening and balanced offense that this D has seen thus far. I think they have their own issue to actually put it all together and based on the way the D has played in the first two games, they'll make that hard, but I wouldn't ignore the potential threat that they pose.

[MikeBass]

I do not think that we should play man to man on Burress, he is too tall for most corners and will win most one-on-one battles. We are going to have to give our corners plenty of help on him if only to jar the ball lose after he gets his hands on it. We certainly have the safeties who are capable of doing this.

[shally]

Originally Posted by Skins-R-Us

It would be in Greg Williams best interest to mix it up. Switch up from Zone to Man and see how the G-girls react. Nothing says you have to stick to one coverage scheme per game.

agree. mix things up.. but get after eli no matter what the basic formation

[SkinsfaninNJ]

Originally Posted by shally

agree. mix things up.. but get after eli no matter what the basic formation

Attack Eli up the middle. He has trouble when guys are around his feet and can't step into the throw. It would be great to see Griff, Monty and Golston get some pressure.

[PyroGenic]

Originally Posted by SkinsfaninNJ

Attack Eli up the middle. He has trouble when guys are around his feet and can't step into the throw. It would be great to see Griff, Monty and Golston get some pressure.

I don't think I've ever seen that, except for once last game

[RedskinRyan]

we light it up against them(hopefully), and let the defense do their thing.

[Meatsnack]

Unless Toomer has lost a step (and I have not watched any Giants' games to see) he has burned us too many times deep for me to feel fine leaving him without a safety over the top. Buress is a weakling and will be a non-factor due to his ankle. Shockey is capable of doing bad things to us but between McIntosh and our two safeties I think we can limit him to his usual non-factor performance against us.

The real plus for us is that the Giants do not have Tiki or even his replacement, Jacobs. If we can stop their very suspect run game from the nickle, the Giants might not score at all on offense.

[flave1969]

Totally different threat this week. Toomer and Burress have had good starts to the year and we must respect their ability and size. Why dismiss Burress the man has scored four TD's in two weeks and is averaging 17.6 yard per catch.

The key is to get in Manning's face and throw the receivers a bunch of different looks. Taylor and Landry will be key this game. I think we need to get in the heads of the Giants to be as effective as last week. A hard hit or two will sow the seeds of doubt.

[Redskin4Life]

Honestly, I think we go man to man press to start the game. Go 5-2-4 with MW on the line. Blitz Landry early and set the tone for the game. If we get to Eli early, the big play WRs won't have a chance to show their stuff cause EM will have happy feet. If we get a big lead early, we'll probably stay with this... if not, we may go cover 2.

[Hr fan]

Determined by down and distance. That's the reason we are currently good on 3rd down. If short play the run and don't allow the long play. If long get in his face because a too short pass is a stop, and if he holds the ball we can hurry/get to him.

[firehawk157]

Originally Posted by Hr fan

Determined by down and distance. That's the reason we are currently good on 3rd down. If short play the run and don't allow the long play. If long get in his face because a too short pass is a stop, and if he holds the ball we can hurry/get to him.

Exactly, play the situation. If it's 3rd and 20, it would be stupid to play press because then you can give up the long play. If it's 3rd and 2, it's stupid not to play close to the LOS because a 2 yard pass gets them a fresh set of downs. But, because it hasn't been said 80 times in this thread already, we need to pressure Eli.