"No matter what is called, we have to execute"

Keino · #1 10-22-2007, 10:10 PM

I am listening to today's player interviews at Redskins.com. Two common phrases (and yes I know they are cliche, but I'm going somewhere with this) were heard throughout from various offensive players:

1. "No matter what the playcall/what you are asked to do you have to go out and execute"

And the second phrase is like unto it:

2. "Well we don't call the plays, but we need to execute what is called"

When I played, and we said stuff like this, it was because we didn't believe in the coach's playcall.

Three different offensive players interviewed uttered these words. Now as I indicated, they are largely cliche when spoken to media in answering questions about the 2nd half, however, I think it possible that the comments mean that the players are losing confidence in the way the playcalling is going in the 2nd half. (I know, huge revelation there) This can either be a very good thing or a very bad thing. On the one hand, it could signify the coaches losing the lockerroom. That would be very bad. On the other hand, it could cause some very serious conversations, particularly from some vet leaders and get us turned around, from an aggressiveness standpoint. That would be good.

Or I could be reading far into these comments.....

culpeper · #2 10-22-2007, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Keino

I am listening to today's player interviews at Redskins.com. Two common phrases (and yes I know they are cliche, but I'm going somewhere with this) were heard throughout from various offensive players:

1. "No matter what the playcall/what you are asked to do you have to go out and execute"

And the second phrase is like unto it:

2. "Well we don't call the plays, but we need to execute what is called"

When I played, and we said stuff like this, it was because we didn't believe in the coach's playcall.

Three different offensive players interviewed uttered these words. Now as I indicated, they are largely cliche when spoken to media in answering questions about the 2nd half, however, I think it possible that the comments mean that the players are losing confidence in the way the playcalling is going in the 2nd half. (I know, huge revelation there) This can either be a very good thing or a very bad thing. On the one hand, it could signify the coaches losing the lockerroom. That would be very bad. On the other hand, it could cause some very serious conversations, particularly from some vet leaders and get us turned around, from an aggressiveness standpoint. That would be good.

Or I could be reading far into these comments.....

i dont think you are reading too far into this.

what is glaring to me is we dont have that one guy who gets everyones head out of their *** on offense. LF is that guy on D, but someone has to be able to walk up and down the sidelines and demand the very best effort from their teammates once in a while.

when its going good, BOY is it good! but when its going bad, everyone is just looking around and sulking, and it gets worse. usually that player is the QB, and that is the only complaint i have about JC right now...hes too quiet.

JoeJacksonTaylor28 · #3 10-22-2007, 10:35 PM

I think this is good AND bad

The team is united and is not blaming the coaches, at least when talking to the media: Good

Some players don't believe in the system and/or the playcalling: Bad

The Skinsinator · #4 10-22-2007, 10:52 PM

There isn't a clear way to interpret it and the players themselves may not have intended for them to be. I couldn't watch the game yesterday painfully enough but see the stats clear as day. We won with our banged up line which is enough for me despite the horrific offensive stats. Whomever maybe calling the plays has to be unpredictable some and give the keys more to Jason. I love Gibbs but he has to give control unconditionally to Al despite his apparent reluctance. Very encouraged by this d though especially the forced turnovers. Pats comments about them:

The redskins shut down the best offenses in the league this year. Packers, Lions, Cardinals. I don't know who else, but that's enough for me. They are for real and don't expect Brady to dominate their defense just because we dominated the pathetic Dolphins. Taylor leads the NFL in interceptions and deflections i believe, he's a playmaker and if we don't watch out, if we don't play smart, he could return a pick for a TD. Plus their defensive line and linebackers are playing terrific as well. Their OLB McIntosh sucks in coverage but that's about it. Maybe we can hurt them with Welker in the slot.

skinsfan36 · #5 10-22-2007, 11:23 PM

this is true maybe campbell should learn to audible frequently that would be sweet

joethefan · #6 10-22-2007, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan36

this is true maybe campbell should learn to audible frequently that would be sweet

They don't allow him to. IMO that's part of the problem....I don't thinnk they are comfortable with Jason in that Aspect...I think they should allow him to go with what he sees.....he's on the field not them.....

shally · #7 10-22-2007, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by culpeper

i dont think you are reading too far into this.

what is glaring to me is we dont have that one guy who gets everyones head out of their *** on offense. LF is that guy on D, but someone has to be able to walk up and down the sidelines and demand the very best effort from their teammates once in a while.

when its going good, BOY is it good! but when its going bad, everyone is just looking around and sulking, and it gets worse. usually that player is the QB, and that is the only complaint i have about JC right now...hes too quiet.

EXACTLY my take on it.. we have real leadership on defense in guys like fletcher, carter and daniels.

on offense we simply dont.. sooner or later, JC is going to have to step up and make the offense his. it doesnt mean he has to call the plays, but it does mean he is going to need to show the moral authority that the other 10 guys on offense are accountable to him

you simply cannot have every single wideout (except for maybe mccardell)
dropping passes repeatedly.. tight ends doing the same thing. that cannot be allowed to stand. it cant come from the coaches effectively, but in most cases (lloyd excepted,i think) peer pressure is the greatest lever

greatest2 · #8 10-23-2007, 12:25 AM

we haven't fully trusted campbell yet. When we do, we will see his confidence go up (he does know they haven't trusted him enough, so his confidence isn't as high as it can be). Once that happens, you will see him make more plays, and be more proud of those plays. That will lead him to being more vocal and getting guys pumped for the next series or pick them up.

First you have to show in this league before you lead. London has done that with his previous team, and early in the season, so he can do that stuff and get the team ready and they believe him. GW has also given the controls to London as well.

campbell first needs to have full control of the offense before he can gain confidence and show his team that he is the absolute guy here. Then he can tell players to get up and be ready but not until then. Gibbs and company need to A.) give the keys over to Jason and let him drive. B.) gibbs needs to let Al make all the playcalls and not overturn him TO much. If its crucial down and al calls some crazy Wide reciever reverse or something then yes, but other then that let al be al cause he has proven it before that he can put together a great offense. The only thing different about this stop then his previous, gibbs may be holding his hand a little to much.

SkinsfaninNJ · #9 10-23-2007, 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Keino

I am listening to today's player interviews at Redskins.com. Two common phrases (and yes I know they are cliche, but I'm going somewhere with this) were heard throughout from various offensive players:

1. "No matter what the playcall/what you are asked to do you have to go out and execute"

And the second phrase is like unto it:

2. "Well we don't call the plays, but we need to execute what is called"

When I played, and we said stuff like this, it was because we didn't believe in the coach's playcall.

Three different offensive players interviewed uttered these words. Now as I indicated, they are largely cliche when spoken to media in answering questions about the 2nd half, however, I think it possible that the comments mean that the players are losing confidence in the way the playcalling is going in the 2nd half. (I know, huge revelation there) This can either be a very good thing or a very bad thing. On the one hand, it could signify the coaches losing the lockerroom. That would be very bad. On the other hand, it could cause some very serious conversations, particularly from some vet leaders and get us turned around, from an aggressiveness standpoint. That would be good.

Or I could be reading far into these comments.....

I don't think you are reading too much into it, but I think they are also speaking the truth. When you play conservative, you limit your chances to make positive plays on offense (low risk, low reward). On the few occasions the coaches take off the training wheels, the players have to execute, and they have failed in that regard often this year.

So I think some players are frustrated with the play calling, but also frustrated at themselves/teammates who are making mental or physical mistakes that blow up the few big plays to be made.

SpicyMcHaggis · #10 10-23-2007, 02:15 AM

After yesterday's Press Conference, I have totally lost confidence in the playcalling. And I don't see why the players should do otherwise.

If you were an offensive player, and heard your HC say that, up by only 2 TDs, since the defense was playing well, the offensive approach would be extremely cautious (resulting in an almost-collapse), how exactly would you feel? Honestly, if I were a WR, I would consider asking for a trade.

P.S. It goes without saying that the offensive players, even if they have no hope at all, must perform better anyways.

joethefan · #11 10-23-2007, 03:15 AM

They will never allow Jason to be Jason, as long as they play this consevative "HEY WE GOT 21 POINTS LET"S SHUT IT DOWN AND LET GREGG AND THE D WIN THE GAME" Crap....

I really feel sorry for Jason and whay they are doing to him....this is just sad, to have a kid with all the intangebles and not allowing him to use his GOD giving talent starting with his mind, instinct and talent. Just pure sad....

SpicyMcHaggis · #12 10-23-2007, 03:53 AM

The thing that most worries me is that Gibbs, discussing the second half performance of the offense in the press conference, didn't seem to realize that, because of our ultra-conservative gameplan, we had a very good chance of losing the game. In fact, the final result was independant of anything we could do.
If the game had ended 21-6, I would have been fine with that gameplan. We ice the game, make no mistakes, keep the clock running, etc. etc. etc. Instead, we accomplished none of the above, went 3 and out in 4 of the 5 drives of the second half, and almost lost the game.
Gibbs, on the other hand, seemed completely safisfied with the way the game played out, saying that both he and Saunders did a "great job" executing their strategy in the second half.
This seems alot like the clock management issue. We don't fix the problem because we don't realize that there is one.

smoak · #13 10-23-2007, 04:01 AM

This is certainly a worry, but I hope both the coaching staff and plater can work through it as we have in past season (our offense tends to get better as the season goes on). Also, I sure hope the coaching staff doesn't lose confidence in players so easily of we'd have Samuels, Kendall, and Rabach on the field for offense.

Oh and I guess Brunell hasn't made any mistakes this year?

Good team come together in times of adversity.

joethefan · #14 10-23-2007, 04:02 AM

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Originally Posted by SpicyMcHaggis

The thing that most worries me is that Gibbs, discussing the second half performance of the offense in the press conference, didn't seem to realize that, because of our ultra-conservative gameplan, we had a very good chance of losing the game. In fact, the final result was independant of anything we could do.
If the game had ended 21-6, I would have been fine with that gameplan. We ice the game, make no mistakes, keep the clock running, etc. etc. etc. Instead, we accomplished none of the above, went 3 and out in 4 of the 5 drives of the second half, and almost lost the game.
Gibbs, on the other hand, seemed completely safisfied with the way the game played out, saying that both he and Saunders did a "great job" executing their strategy in the second half.
This seems alot like the clock management issue. We don't fix the problem because we don't realize that there is one.

Spicy I hate to say it but i'll be the first one to....I'm not liking the structure of this team and after 3 1/2, we're still having the same issues. All I'm saying is that whenever Danny changes the tune, I just pray that Al would stay around to Allow Jason to Flourish in this offense. I think Al wants to be agressive but Gibbs puts the clamps on him.....I'm sick of it...

joethefan · #15 10-23-2007, 04:03 AM

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Originally Posted by smoak

This is certainly a worry, but I hope both the coaching staff and plater can work through it as we have in past season (our offense tends to get better as the season goes on). Also, I sure hope the coaching staff doesn't lose confidence in players so easily of we'd have Samuels, Kendall, and Rabach on the field for offense.

Oh and I guess Brunell hasn't made any mistakes this year?

Good team come together in times of adversity.

wll Smoak my problem is, why is it that we have so much adversity all the time.....That word should not be showing up this early in the year...IMO...