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Old 01-05-2008, 08:08 PM
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we have so much to look forward to next season -- HTTR forever
Do we really though? With a possible coaching change and with the potential to cut ties with players like portis I am not sure what I am going to looking at next year.
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Old 01-05-2008, 08:09 PM
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I believe Santana. He's said repeatedly after ST's death that he plays every down like Sean. Sean wouldn't quit on a play, and I don't believe a professional athlete, down 7 points in a playoff game would quit on a route.

Also, in the end, Collins shouldn't have made that throw. Trufant didn't bite on the route and was sitting there waiting for Collins to chuck it.
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Old 01-05-2008, 08:17 PM
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I believe Santana. He's said repeatedly after ST's death that he plays every down like Sean. Sean wouldn't quit on a play, and I don't believe a professional athlete, down 7 points in a playoff game would quit on a route.

Also, in the end, Collins shouldn't have made that throw. Trufant didn't bite on the route and was sitting there waiting for Collins to chuck it.
was a questionable play call as well.
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Old 01-05-2008, 08:20 PM
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was a questionable play call as well.
Not really...I liked it. We hadn't gone deep all game and Trufant was playing aggressive.

But man, Collins really has a weak arm. I couldn't stand him as a starter because you really can't stretch the field with him.
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I think Santana did lose it in the lights...I am more concerned with his drops and the frequency with which they are coming. It seems lately he is feast or famine....and mostly famine.

I would love Andre Davis or Chad Johnson but I doubt we have the cap space for such a deal.
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Old 01-05-2008, 08:35 PM
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I think Santana did lose it in the lights...I am more concerned with his drops and the frequency with which they are coming. It seems lately he is feast or famine....and mostly famine.

I would love Andre Davis or Chad Johnson but I doubt we have the cap space for such a deal.
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Old 01-05-2008, 08:37 PM
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he said he didn't see it, not that he lost it in the lights. he wasn't even aware that the ball was thrown.

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I don't know if Santana is unlucky or just incompetent, but I do know that he has no business on the field with professional football players.
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Old 01-05-2008, 08:45 PM
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my thoughts exactly, i felt like once Mix's TD was called back (a BS rule IMO)
the tide seemed to turn and i didn't think we ever got it back --
even with this game loss, i feel like we have gained so much more this season than wins and losses - we have been given an up close and very personal look at this team and i am very proud to say that the Redskins are my team - we have so much to look forward to next season -- HTTR forever
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he said he didn't see it, not that he lost it in the lights. he wasn't even aware that the ball was thrown.


exactly, looking at the replay I think its obvious he has no idea the ball is in the air. You see him look at the defender before he is going for the catch then he turns his head back towards the qb and see what looks like a dead play. Thats when the INT occurs.
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The dagger in my heart was indeed the missed FG.
Absolutely. Talk about a momentum killer. Missed FGs - particularly chip shots - have a horrible psychological effect.
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Old 01-05-2008, 08:52 PM
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also, after santana realize the defender got the ball he trys to make the tackle, once he get blocks he continues to persue the player with the ball. This isnt what someone who quits on a play does.
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Old 01-05-2008, 08:54 PM
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They just showed the replay on NBC, I think Collinsworth was right when he said that Moss quit on it because he didn't think Collins would dare to throw it to him because of the coverage. Moss is watching the ball before it got near.
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Old 01-05-2008, 08:57 PM
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I think Santana did lose it in the lights...I am more concerned with his drops and the frequency with which they are coming. It seems lately he is feast or famine....and mostly famine.

I would love Andre Davis or Chad Johnson but I doubt we have the cap space for such a deal.
Andre Davis????
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Old 01-05-2008, 09:03 PM
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My first thought was that he lost it in the light and just didn't pick it up going over his head.
I don't believe Santana would ever quit on a play like that.
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Old 01-05-2008, 09:06 PM
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Moss is watching the ball before it got near.
When do you see this? To me it looked like he turns his head from the defender to LOS as the ball is way up in the air. It looked like his field of vision was more parrell to the ground then up in the air looking for ducks.
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When do you see this? To me it looked like he turns his head from the defender to LOS as the ball is way up in the air. It looked like his field of vision was more parrell to the ground then up in the air looking for ducks.
He(and I would like to see it from the other angle to see if I could see his eyes) is clearly following the ball when its over 10 yards away from him. It was such a slow pass that even though he looked away, he had time to look back for it. Trufant had no problems seeing the ball and making the play on it. The lights should have effected him as well.
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