[IHO Art Monk & Darrell Green] hR Official HOF Gameday Thread: Colts--vs--Redskins

[SkinsfaninNJ]

Originally Posted by nicefellow31

I remember you and I getting in a nice debate last year about Heyer. I'm starting to think he would make a decent guard, although I don't know if he has the quickness to pull out when necessary. I also think he is a better RT because he doesn't do well against the speed rushers like you said. To me, it looks like and I think others have said it, that he plays up too high. If he would squat down a little it may help, but when he does that, the speed rushers go right by him. He needs some more work but he will eventually get there.

Its only one game, but for one night he took a step backwards from last season. He settled down as the night went on. He played a lot (maybe about three quarters by my estimation). But he was getting eaten alive early on.

[SkinsfaninNJ]

Originally Posted by nicefellow31

I thought Collins was holding on to the ball too long. Not sure if the receivers were getting open or what.

This is the problem we have been reading about all training camp, whether it was members here like JasonCampbell (the member not the QB) or JLC. Collins has to get a better grasp of the offense, trust his instincts, or something.

[TrueOracle]

Originally Posted by jaylen

Collins can only function it seems in Al's offense. He's been institutionalized. like Hadley from Shawshank. lol

I made this point in at least five other threads.... We should've let him ride with Saunders instead of paying him like he's a 28 y/o vet. Is Trent Dilfer still out there and available?

[dogfight6]

Two of the Redskins best in the HOF and a pretty good game. not a bad way to spend a weekend.

[Moe]

Originally Posted by Dolla Bill

We have a Gatewood sighting.

Gotta say it gave me pause to see number 56 out there on the field.

[Moe]

Originally Posted by nicefellow31

I remember you and I getting in a nice debate last year about Heyer. I'm starting to think he would make a decent guard, although I don't know if he has the quickness to pull out when necessary. I also think he is a better RT because he doesn't do well against the speed rushers like you said. To me, it looks like and I think others have said it, that he plays up too high. If he would squat down a little it may help, but when he does that, the speed rushers go right by him. He needs some more work but he will eventually get there.

Yeah he clearly struggles with speed, which is a problem if you want to be a LT. He doesn't have the quickest feet and even when he is able to recover it seems as though he can't engage enough to make up the difference. Granted he's young, so experience should improve his recognition and technique but you can't teach quickness.
To me he isn't build for OG, nor does the short area burst and technique used by OG's seem to fit his body. He's solid in space, when he has his feet under him and he can extend and really use his arms. I think he's more naturally suited for RT and with some more time in the weight room to add some strength to that frame, he could be very solid at that spot.