The Final 53: Post Buffalo

[CNYSkinFan]

Here we are with my Final 53 update from after the Buffalo game. got a few surprises on here this time.

The Final 53: Post Buffalo

Check it out and let me know what you think.

[Patrick]

Looks pretty good so far. Injuries will be the determind factor on some of those borderline positions. ............. I'm still concern about Rogers and Rocky being completely healthy (or ready) by openning day as well as James.

[shally]

Originally Posted by CNYSkinFan

Here we are with my Final 53 update from after the Buffalo game. got a few surprises on here this time.

The Final 53: Post Buffalo

Check it out and let me know what you think.

the single toughest area to make cuts may turn out to be the o line.

wade may not make it despite his experience because he is not very flexible and fabini has proven to be more so. reinhart will be starting somewhere on the line by next year. heyer is improved physically but is still awkward
actually geisinger had a great game and made all the line calls flawlessly. crummey and clark could easily make someones roster as reserves and will be deserving of PS at the very least.. even taveres washington looked good. all of a sudden we have nice young depth. tough tough calls coming up

i dont think we go with only 8 d linemen because i dont think that james can be counted on for more than spot duty for most of the early portion of the season. that means either wilson or jackson gets the 9th spot

we might go with 6 linebackers out of necessity

the move of springs to safety is huge because it means we can go with 9 db's instead of ten with springs counting as either the 5th corner or safety. we will be alot younger inthe safety position because both horton and moore should make the squad barring injuries

you cannot look at the way mason runs the ball and not feel he has a place on the team.. ask the giants what having a reserve like ahmad bradshaw was worth late in the season as injuries piled up.. it will mean we keep 4 TE/FB's total.. maybe alexander gets some reps there eventually ?

incidentally, pitts cut trucks today.. i wonder if we give him a call to provide depth for the preseason ??

[The Iceman]

Pretty right on in my opinion. I think Fincher gets released and Rob Jackson makes the team. Remember, J. Taylor can play LB in a pinch.

[silverspring]

I would put Tyron on the practice squad, he needs a lot more work.
I don't know if we can keep all those WRs when we need so much more depth on defense (Dline, DBs, and LBs).

[flave1969]

Good write up Dustin but will you please stop callin London Fletcher, London Fletcher-Baker.

[shally]

Originally Posted by The Iceman

Pretty right on in my opinion. I think Fincher gets released and Rob Jackson makes the team. Remember, J. Taylor can play LB in a pinch.

i think we need to keep fincher, unless we pick up another vet linebacker..since we passed on takeo spikes,my guess is that they are pleased with what we have for now.

but remember we have both blades and rocky coming off surgery so we are truly thin at lb right now

[CNYSkinFan]

Originally Posted by Patrick

Looks pretty good so far. Injuries will be the determind factor on some of those borderline positions. ............. I'm still concern about Rogers and Rocky being completely healthy (or ready) by openning day as well as James.

Well both rogers and rockey are going to play in the last pre-season game according to what i am reading. I think they are just being careful wiht them, but i am reading great reports out of camp.

Originally Posted by shally

the single toughest area to make cuts may turn out to be the o line.

wade may not make it despite his experience because he is not very flexible and fabini has proven to be more so. reinhart will be starting somewhere on the line by next year. heyer is improved physically but is still awkward
actually geisinger had a great game and made all the line calls flawlessly. crummey and clark could easily make someones roster as reserves and will be deserving of PS at the very least.. even taveres washington looked good. all of a sudden we have nice young depth. tough tough calls coming up

i dont think we go with only 8 d linemen because i dont think that james can be counted on for more than spot duty for most of the early portion of the season. that means either wilson or jackson gets the 9th spot

we might go with 6 linebackers out of necessity

the move of springs to safety is huge because it means we can go with 9 db's instead of ten with springs counting as either the 5th corner or safety. we will be alot younger inthe safety position because both horton and moore should make the squad barring injuries

you cannot look at the way mason runs the ball and not feel he has a place on the team.. ask the giants what having a reserve like ahmad bradshaw was worth late in the season as injuries piled up.. it will mean we keep 4 TE/FB's total.. maybe alexander gets some reps there eventually ?

incidentally, pitts cut trucks today.. i wonder if we give him a call to provide depth for the preseason ??

all possibilities of course. 7 lbs, 9 dl, 10 ol, 6 wr, 5s, 4rb these are all positions of excess. It depends on who is there, whether you feel you can ps them and get away with it.

I doubt alexander goes anywhere but DT, and it is possible he could get cut for Jackson because of Evans flexibility.

Originally Posted by The Iceman

Pretty right on in my opinion. I think Fincher gets released and Rob Jackson makes the team. Remember, J. Taylor can play LB in a pinch.

But Jackson has PS eleigibility and has tapered off and Fincher does not and has played lights out.

Taylor has never been a true lb in a 4-3 from what i recall but I may be wrong.

Originally Posted by silverspring

I would put Tyron on the practice squad, he needs a lot more work.
I don't know if we can keep all those WRs when we need so much more depth on defense (Dline, DBs, and LBs).

Tryon could go to the ps, but I think a few other teams may notice him there being a 4th round pick...but maybe not.

Originally Posted by flave1969

Good write up Dustin but will you please stop callin London Fletcher, London Fletcher-Baker.

i have no idea what you are talking about

[shally]

i read somewhere that a few teams had already cut draft picks with the "waived/injury settlement" designation.

because of the smaller preseason rosters teams are forced to cut players they might keep around and some draft picks are already out there.

the fact that we may have wasted a 4th rounder on tryon is irrelevant to other teams. they will look at tape and decide if he is worthy of a roster spot. right now, he sure looks shaky. i hope he is showing up better in practice than he is in games..

[HanburgerBum]

I think Rob Jackson makes the final 53 at the expense of Erasmus James (PUP) or Lorenzo Alexnader (cut). If Wilson gets healthy, he may be a 9th Dlineman at the expense of Rock Cartwright or a 7th LB.

The depth at LB is very shaky. But, merely adding anther body (a 7th LB) may not be the solution. It's not evident that both Sinclar and Finch deserve spots. Blades played both inside and outside last season after McIntosh went down, and Khary Campbell has apparently played inside and outside this preseason. So, six LBs may be enough.

If Marcus Mason shows anything on special teams, I think Cartwright's Redskins career is at an end.

And, don't discount Geisinger's chances at backup center instead of Crummey. The Wash Post had an article today about the great game Geisinger had vs Buffalo including calling all the line assignments.

Jon Jansen is rapidly becoming a problem. It's no longer clear that he deserves to start at RT. If he is the backup center, how come he hasn't played a snap there yet? If Jensen were not to expensive (capwise) to cut, the team should give some serious consideration to that.

[Battle Cat]

I think that is a pretty good 53 man list. I would only disagree with Erasmus James making the team as a situation pass rusher. He doesn't rush the passer very well in my opinoin and is probably a walking injury waiting to happen. I would take Chris Wilson even though he has struggled some this camp or Rob Jackson over James any day of the week. But other than that pretty musch on target in my opinion of the 53 man team.

[redskin_rich]

Originally Posted by HanburgerBum

And, don't discount Geisinger's chances at backup center instead of Crummey. The Wash Post had an article today about the great game Geisinger had vs Buffalo including calling all the line assignments.

Jon Jansen is rapidly becoming a problem. It's no longer clear that he deserves to start at RT. If he is the backup center, how come he hasn't played a snap there yet? If Jensen were not to expensive (capwise) to cut, the team should give some serious consideration to that.

Agree about Geisinger, he did very well.

I thought Jansen had a good game, other than the holding call, where he got beat pretty bad. That happens to everybody, it's not like he was getting pushed around the entire time. Him and Thomas were blasting some huge holes on running plays.

[Hrabanmaur]

Thanks for offering up the new projection, CNYSkinFan.

Originally Posted by redskin_rich

Agree about Geisinger, he did very well.

I thought Jansen had a good game, other than the holding call, where he got beat pretty bad. That happens to everybody, it's not like he was getting pushed around the entire time. Him and Thomas were blasting some huge holes on running plays.

Yeah, I'd place Geisinger above Crummey at this point, especially considering that Crummey didn't come in until Fabini went out (making him 3rd string?). I just have a feeling one of these young guys is going to make it over Wade, whose injury propensity and play doesn't seem to be getting better (in fact he may be a "progress stopper").

Jansen's forte has always been run blocking. He's always had a few issues with pass protection. I don't think he's declined as much as this is how Jansen plays. As for the holding call, I'd happily take it again if it keeps Campbell from getting throttled. We love Jansen because he and Thomas make a dominant run-game (see last year without them).

Originally Posted by BattleCat

I think that is a pretty good 53 man list. I would only disagree with Erasmus James making the team as a situation pass rusher. He doesn't rush the passer very well in my opinoin and is probably a walking injury waiting to happen. I would take Chris Wilson even though he has struggled some this camp or Rob Jackson over James any day of the week. But other than that pretty musch on target in my opinion of the 53 man team.

And in the news today, James came off the PUP and onto the active roster. John Palermo, his college coach, is the defensive line coach. I'd be shocked to see James cut for any reason other than a recurrence of his injury. I think Jackson stays on the active roster, and Chris Wilson becomes the guy on the outside looking in. Wilson looked great last year when we had no pass rushers besides Carter. This year, it's a different ball game (thank God!).

Originally Posted by HanburgerBun

The depth at LB is very shaky. But, merely adding anther body (a 7th LB) may not be the solution. It's not evident that both Sinclar and Finch deserve spots. Blades played both inside and outside last season after McIntosh went down, and Khary Campbell has apparently played inside and outside this preseason. So, six LBs may be enough.

Spot on. No reason to keep two below average LBs to make up for our depth problems. We just need to hope that Campbell and Blades can cover any injury problems. I think we keep only 6.

Originally Posted by shally

i read somewhere that a few teams had already cut draft picks with the "waived/injury settlement" designation.

because of the smaller preseason rosters teams are forced to cut players they might keep around and some draft picks are already out there.

the fact that we may have wasted a 4th rounder on tryon is irrelevant to other teams. they will look at tape and decide if he is worthy of a roster spot. right now, he sure looks shaky. i hope he is showing up better in practice than he is in games..

Yeah, I agree that if Tryon needs to get cut, he will. Ultimately, I think this will come down to a pow-wow between Gray and Blache to determine how coach-able this kid is. If they think they can mold him, he'll stay. If they think he's too overwhelmed, say bye-bye. I would look to Richardson to slide into Tryon's spot if this happens.

Originally Posted by CNYSkinFan

Mix’s injury opens up the 6th WR spot for McMullen who is out there catching balls, and not sitting on the sideline. And Mix’s injury will sideline him for another week. A strong performance by McMullen and he will be out of the …uhm Mix. Mann and Toller are battling for the last PS spot

McMullen has obviously earned the confidence of the Redskins QBs, and he's caught everything coming his way. BUT, I still think our 6th WR will have to play solid teams, which Mix has done. I need to see McMullen do something on teams before I jump on his bandwagon. I think the WR roster won't be clear until the end of the preseason when we get Mix, Thomas, and Kelly on the field to see what we actually have.

[ryflan47]

Chris Wilson is my only gripe. I think he'll make the team if it comes between him and James.

[Nomad]

1. Does Devine replace Collins next year if Brennan improves? That is, Brennan #2, Devine #3?

2. Any real chance Rock gets cut & replaced by Mason? Mason blows it up rest of preseason, could this happen?

3. How have Tavares Washington & Geisenger looked? Any chance we ditch Fabini & give them or someone else a shot? That would mean no older b-ups, but Heyer and Rinehart.

4. Given the fact that we have old and/or injury prone DL, doesn't 9 make more sense? Would some other team sign Jackson if placed on PS?

5. Wouldn't it make more sense to keep a really solid prospect somewhere else rather than 7 linebackers?

Thanks for any answers, haven't been able to see as much preseason as would like, sports bars here stingy about showing preseason Skins.