The Final 53: Post Jets

[CNYSkinFan]

Ok come and get some. Here is my roster anlysis after the Jets game.

The Final 53: Post Jets

Bring the noise bring the thunder.

[shally]

Originally Posted by CNYSkinFan

Ok come and get some. Here is my roster anlysis after the Jets game.

The Final 53: Post Jets

Bring the noise bring the thunder.

good stuff


brown is already on IR and gone .. (should be on the PS when he recovers)

rian wallace was already cut today

i think jackson gets the nod over wilson because he is a draft pick (even though a low one) and wilson is too small and has been replaced as a speed rusher by jason taylor

jackson is bigger and has a far better upside than wilson

[WinnpegSkinsFan]

Good write- up. Can't argue with a single choice. Mix has to get in games and pick it up if he wants a roster spot over McMullen or Mason.

[Hr fan]

With Wallace gone IMO 6 LB with Gatewood to PS. That is one spot. The other spot I believe to be open is Tryon's. Comments below to be shaded by the fact that none of use really gets to study ST tapes, and they will tell the decision.

If Fox goes, Rock stays and Mix probably gets the 7th LB spot. Can't lose too much ST production, and Mix can be a terror on teams. The other spot would seem to go to Richardson. Beyond teams, 2 rookie WRs that haven't played much plus known fragility of our top 3 WRs means Mix is the only WR left with game experience. McMullen, I don't know what he has shown on teams. If the coaches are satisfied with that aspect of his games substitute Billy for Anthony.

The reason we are thinking Tryon will stick is his draft status. Again, I don't know his ST potential, but assume it is not large. Therefore at this point Richardson has higher production, and looking at game tape of Tryon should convince teams that he needs PS time. I think he will be safe to cut and put on the PS, remembering that another team cam sign him only to the 53 man roster to get him away from us. I think the tape on him will preclude this. All this assuming that the ST doesn't need a wedge buster more than a gunner type.

[silverspring]

Good write up, wow this is tight.

I get the feeling we are going to keep 6 WRs so who do we steal that spot from? Maybe one of the line backers?

If Rob Jackson continues looking like he does I don't know how wilson or james can make the team over him.

I would like to see richardson make the team. It stinks that we have to give Tyron a spot just because he was a high pick. I would love to stash him on the practice squad but don't know if that will happen.

[Dolla Bill]

I still think Jackson makes the team somehow. He reminds me of a young Wynn with a pass rush.

[SkinsfaninNJ]

Originally Posted by shally

good stuff


brown is already on IR and gone .. (should be on the PS when he recovers)

rian wallace was already cut today

i think jackson gets the nod over wilson because he is a draft pick (even though a low one) and wilson is too small and has been replaced as a speed rusher by jason taylor

jackson is bigger and has a far better upside than wilson

I agree. I think Jackson has showed more potential than Wilson. Maybe I'm just hoping Jackson is a late round steal, but I think he has earned a spot so far.

[Redblood]

Originally Posted by silverspring

Good write up, wow this is tight.

I get the feeling we are going to keep 6 WRs so who do we steal that spot from? Maybe one of the line backers?

If Rob Jackson continues looking like he does I don't know how wilson or james can make the team over him.

I would like to see richardson make the team. It stinks that we have to give Tyron a spot just because he was a high pick. I would love to stash him on the practice squad but don't know if that will happen.

Good picks CNSF! However, Coach Zorn has as much as said he wants 6 WRs.

SilverSpring, I think E. James goes IR for the year due to not being all the way back from knee injury, so I go with Jackson.

[SkinsfaninNJ]

Originally Posted by Redblood

Good picks CNSF! However, Coach Zorn has as much as said he wants 6 WRs.

SilverSpring, I think E. James goes IR for the year due to not being all the way back from knee injury, so I go with Jackson.

I would be mildly disappointed if James is IR'd. We have heard so many positive reports on his recovery.

[skinsfan36]

nice write up only thing i dont agree with is golston as a starter over monty

[redskinzluva]

Running Back

Projected Roster Spots: 4

Projected Starter:Clinton Portis

Projected Bench:Ladell Betts, Rock Cartwright, Marcus Mason

Rock Cartwright is a bad mother (shut your mouth). rock haters look to that 73 yard run and get used to seeing him in a Redskin uniform this year. Mason is doing well also and if you want to know why I keep saying we will keep 4 RBs, Betts going down with a knee sprain is exhibit A. We need 4 RBS to keep continuity in case of injury.

Rock had a good run. I will give him that. But the rest of them stunk. Even he said that also. He only had two or three decent runs and one good run this preseason. I rather have consistency than one long run. But still I give him kudos on that run eventhough he ran out of gas..Good run ROCK!!

Wide Receiver

Projected Roster Spots: 5

Projected Starter:Santana Moss, Antwaan Randle-El

Projected Bench: Devin Thomas, Malcolm Kelly, James Thrash,

On the Bubble: Billy McMullen, Maurice Mann, Anthony Mix,

Outside Looking In:Horace Gant, Burl Toller

With two rookies demanding roster spots and 3 accomplished vets ahead of you, you can’t take a game off. Mix did because of injury and McMullen though solid was not spectacular. Chris Cooley and even Portis can be split out in a pinch so I see us going back to 5 WRs.

If they keep 6. I definitely think they should Keep McMullen. He has good hands, is a tall receiver and he is familiar with the WCO.

Offensive Line

Projected Roster Spots: 9

Projected Starter:Chris Samuels, Pete Kendall, Casey Rabach, Randy Thomas, Jon Jansen

Projected Bench:Andrew Crumney, Chad Rinehart, Jason Fabini, Stephon Heyer

Outside Looking In:Kerry Brown, Devin Clark, Justin Geisinger, Todd Wade, Taveres Washington

Geisigner’s injury is goign to put him on the PS. Wade’s injury may put him on the unemployment line. He won’t be back until the final pre-season game and if Rinehart and Heyer shine (or even Clark) then we may have to Wade good bye. (that last joke brought to you by Fozzy Bear).

Devin Clark has looked good. But Wade is a bum anyway. He showed me little to nothing last year.

Defensive Line

Projected Roster Spots: 9

Projected Starter:Jason Taylor, Kedric Golston, Cornelius Griffen, Andre Carter

Projected Bench:Anthony Montgomery, Lorenzo Alexander, Demetric Evans, Erasmus James, Chris Wilson

On the Bubble: Rob Jackson

Outside Looking In: Matthias Askew, Ryan Boschetti,

Injured reserve/PUP:Phillip Daniels, Alex Buzbee

back to 9 for this unit and it has to help Chris Wilson who showed some great push last night and the same pass rushing skills that got him 5 sacks last year. Jackson is on his heels but his low draft status and PS eligibility may work against him getting a roster spot. And I don’t care what Ryan Boschetti did playing against guys collecting garbage next year. This is his 5th year in the league, I want more then a beast vs. nobodies. the guy brings nothing to the table but a hard to spell last name.

I think if Eramus shows something and Rob Jackons keeps up his play (has played well this preseason and has some sacks - Which are few so far for the D-Lines) Evans/Wilson might lose their spot. I think Alexander is safe because of his versatilty and special teams play[/color]

Cornerbacks

Projected Roster Spots: 5

Projected Starter:Shawn Springs, Fred Smoot

Projected Bench:Carlos Rogers, Justin Tryon, Leigh Torrence

On the Bubble:Matteral Richardson, Byron Westbrook

Outside Looking In:Cedrick Holt

Another week, another sign that Tyron may be a bust. Too bad 4th round picks should make the squad, and Tyron probably will, but if Matteral Richardson makes another move Tyron may be ps bound.

I think they need to ship Tryon out of here and keep Richardson. Tyron has not produced on the feel and is continually getting burned >> PS.

Matteral has shown more potential. Westbrooke has show nothing

Safety

Projected Roster Spots: 4

Projected Starter: Reed Doughty, Laron Landry,

Projected Bench: Kareem Moore, Chris Horton

On the Bubble: Justin Hamilton, Vernon Fox

Outside looking In: Patrick Ghee,

Fox could have played his way right off the squad Saturday by missing not one but two tackles on the Jets final drive. They say he has the smarts to play both safeties…too bad he does not have the skills. Moore has easily supplanted him at the backup FS position and Horton at the backup ss position, Fox is trying to make the case to be a 5th S and not doing very well doing it. Speaking of Horton I really hope we let him come in early against Carolina so we can see what he looks like versus NFL talent. Archueletta is calling saying Doughty can’t cover …that is saying something. Justin Hamilton is making a strong case for a PS look.

Vernon Fox hasn't been producing. Hamilton has been showing him up. Looks like Hamilton has more upside and has shown flashes in the preseason. Fox is not that impressive. I think Hamilton should get the last spot. BEcause he is more athletic and has produced so far. Definitiely was impressed by the force fumble (since turnovers are hard to coem by on this team) and he flies to the ball and has made some impressive tackles including droping the RB for a loss last game.

We should not hold on to somone if a younger guy has shown flashes in games and has shown more potential. I definitely think Mason, Rob Jackson, Justin Hamilton and Matteral should make the team.

[CNYSkinFan]

Originally Posted by shally

i think jackson gets the nod over wilson because he is a draft pick (even though a low one) and wilson is too small and has been replaced as a speed rusher by jason taylor

jackson is bigger and has a far better upside than wilson

But Jackson has PS eligibility and this way we keep both.

Originally Posted by Hr fan

With Wallace gone IMO 6 LB with Gatewood to PS. That is one spot. The other spot I believe to be open is Tryon's. Comments below to be shaded by the fact that none of use really gets to study ST tapes, and they will tell the decision.

If Fox goes, Rock stays and Mix probably gets the 7th LB spot. Can't lose too much ST production, and Mix can be a terror on teams. The other spot would seem to go to Richardson. Beyond teams, 2 rookie WRs that haven't played much plus known fragility of our top 3 WRs means Mix is the only WR left with game experience. McMullen, I don't know what he has shown on teams. If the coaches are satisfied with that aspect of his games substitute Billy for Anthony.

The reason we are thinking Tryon will stick is his draft status. Again, I don't know his ST potential, but assume it is not large. Therefore at this point Richardson has higher production, and looking at game tape of Tryon should convince teams that he needs PS time. I think he will be safe to cut and put on the PS, remembering that another team cam sign him only to the 53 man roster to get him away from us. I think the tape on him will preclude this. All this assuming that the ST doesn't need a wedge buster more than a gunner type.

well he could sign with another team's ps as well once we cut him as long as we don't sign him to our PS. But if we cut tryon I don't think he goes to ps, that IMO is westbrook's spot because of his return duties, something tryon is not doing. If tryon gets cut....he is gone.

Originally Posted by Dolla Bill

I still think Jackson makes the team somehow. He reminds me of a young Wynn with a pass rush.

He will....on the PS.

Originally Posted by silverspring

Good write up, wow this is tight.

I get the feeling we are going to keep 6 WRs so who do we steal that spot from? Maybe one of the line backers?

If Rob Jackson continues looking like he does I don't know how wilson or james can make the team over him.

I would like to see richardson make the team. It stinks that we have to give Tyron a spot just because he was a high pick. I would love to stash him on the practice squad but don't know if that will happen.

Originally Posted by SkinsfaninNJ

I agree. I think Jackson has showed more potential than Wilson. Maybe I'm just hoping Jackson is a late round steal, but I think he has earned a spot so far.

I know the love fest for Jackson is great here, and I like him too. BUT this is the same lovefest everyone had for Wilson last year (fickle fickle Redskin fans).

That being said please rememebr Jackson is doing his stuff against 3rd and 4th stringers, not the first string as Wilson has proven at least in the past he can play with. And James has a roster spot. That much ais a given.

Originally Posted by Redblood

Good picks CNSF! However, Coach Zorn has as much as said he wants 6 WRs.

SilverSpring, I think E. James goes IR for the year due to not being all the way back from knee injury, so I go with Jackson.

If we were going to IR James we would have done it already. we took him off the PUP for a reason, to get him into a pre-season game. Unless there is a setback he is going to be on the roster.

Originally Posted by skinsfan36

nice write up only thing i dont agree with is golston as a starter over monty

But he is....and has been all pre-season.

[SellerDoor45]

This is really a great column CNY. I look forward to it every week.

[shally]

Originally Posted by CNYSkinFan

But Jackson has PS eligibility and this way we keep both.



well he could sign with another team's ps as well once we cut him as long as we don't sign him to our PS. But if we cut tryon I don't think he goes to ps, that IMO is westbrook's spot because of his return duties, something tryon is not doing. If tryon gets cut....he is gone.



He will....on the PS.





I know the love fest for Jackson is great here, and I like him too. BUT this is the same lovefest everyone had for Wilson last year (fickle fickle Redskin fans).

That being said please rememebr Jackson is doing his stuff against 3rd and 4th stringers, not the first string as Wilson has proven at least in the past he can play with. And James has a roster spot. That much ais a given.



If we were going to IR James we would have done it already. we took him off the PUP for a reason, to get him into a pre-season game. Unless there is a setback he is going to be on the roster.




But he is....and has been all pre-season.

i dont think there is any reason why tryon couldnt go on the PS, if he is cut.. the only reason would be if some other team takes him for their roster. i think that is highly unlikely off of what he has shown. still, zorn has praised him in his pressors (as well as richardson) so i think in the end they keep tryon and try to sneak richardson onto the PS

wilson HAS shown he can get 5 sacks against nfl competition. his limiting factors are his size. unless he has dramatically increased his strength, he is always going to be nothing more than a situational player. he has been hurt this preseason, so he has shown very little. his main advantage is that he is playing for a coordinator who was his position coach last year. still, it is no sure thing.

james has to prove he can hold up against pro battering. i agree,if he was staying on PUP they would not have activated him. but, if he gets hurt or has a relapse in the next 2 weeks i could see them putting him on IR for the season

jackson has looked fine, most of the time, even though it is against second or third tier players. his motor is very impressive and his size represents good raw material to work with. i would try to hold onto him, but the numbers may work against him. philly had an analogous situation about 2 or 3 years ago when they had 10 or 11 solid looking Def linemen. they kept them all, much to my surprise (might have been the year they cut mcmullen ???).. you just never know

as for westbrook... if his name were west, instead of westbrook, i dont think anyone who even think he has a chance of making the team.. he has shown very little reason to keep him...his brother got all the nfl genes

[Patrick]

And I don’t care what Ryan Boschetti did playing against guys collecting garbage next year. This is his 5th year in the league, I want more then a beast vs. nobodies. the guy brings nothing to the table but a hard to spell last name.

LMAO .......... You and I know that he'll be a number's cut BUT after the first injury to the DL ............. HE'S BACK..... you can count on it.