Post game analysis of Oline failure? (anyone get the number of that truck?)

[Biggie]

Originally Posted by shally

why would they even have to respect the deep ball ? their d line had pressure constantly and JC had no chance.. it simply wasnt an option and moss couldnt come down with the one real opportunity we had..

I realize that Moss dropped the one, but I think we should have tried that at least three or four times, and earlier in the game. When you dink and dunk that much, the defense is going to move up.

[youngestson]

Originally Posted by Biggie

I realize that Moss dropped the one, but I think we should have tried that at least three or four times, and earlier in the game. When you dink and dunk that much, the defense is going to move up.

I think they were trying to set up something deep but the pressure on Jason was just too much.

Every big third down play seemed to end up with Jason on the ground.

[BurgundyNGold]

Originally Posted by AliBabba

I was at the game and haven't watched the DVR yet, so this could change, but I thought the whole unit sucked. I graded them accordingly:

Samuels: B-
Jansen: F
Thomas: D
Rabach: C-
Kendall: C+

Samuels and Kendall both played pretty well. I would have given Kendall a B+, actually. He gave up no sacks and was a force in the run game. Samuels played very well, except for a few bad plays in pass protection, so B-. Same with Thomas, save one sack given up. Jansen was not that bad. He played a little below average and didn't dominate in any phase but I don't recall him giving up a sack. Maybe a C- for Jansen. Rabach was the weak link last night in both blocking and calling. I give him the F.

[nicefellow31]

Originally Posted by BurgundyNGold

Samuels and Kendall both played pretty well. I would have given Kendall a B+, actually. He gave up no sacks and was a force in the run game. Samuels played very well, except for a few bad plays in pass protection, so B-. Same with Thomas, save one sack given up. Jansen was not that bad. He played a little below average and didn't dominate in any phase but I don't recall him giving up a sack. Maybe a C- for Jansen. Rabach was the weak link last night in both blocking and calling. I give him the F.

I would disagree with you on Jansen. While he didn't give up a sack, he was constantly getting pushed backwards, making JC move. Thomas and Rabach were getting beat pretty good on running plays and I'm not sure why.

[GreenspanDan]

Originally Posted by youngestson

I think they were trying to set up something deep but the pressure on Jason was just too much.

Every big third down play seemed to end up with Jason on the ground.

yep. i was mad at the lack of downfield passing as well, until i realized you can't throw it deep when your QB doesn't even have time to throw a slant.

[jtovb2005]

On my drive home today I listened to Cerattos's show. He kept talking about fundamentals. My thought was how can this veteran group be talking about fundamentals. Watching Zorn now and he is talking about the same thing after a reported asked the question. To me that is a sign something (not sure what) needs to change on the line. We may be stuck here for the most part the rest of the year but we need some new blood up there.

Was at the game so saw no replays really but on pass plays the line just seemed overwhelmed. Is Jansen really done here as a starter? is it as simple as that or just a start?

[BurgundyNGold]

Originally Posted by nicefellow31

I would disagree with you on Jansen. While he didn't give up a sack, he was constantly getting pushed backwards, making JC move. Thomas and Rabach were getting beat pretty good on running plays and I'm not sure why.

That's why I gave him a C-. His run blocking was meh and his pass blocking was slightly less than meh. A few of the deep push backs he got were screens. A few others were run outs.