Gatewood to the Chiefs...Skins sign Octavien

[BurgundyNGold]

Originally Posted by AliBabba

When I say that I can't imagine ST without Rock it's more a comment on the lack of depth we have than anything else. I also felt that the KO should have been returned to the house but who's next after Rock, Betts? What about coverage, he made mistakes yes but he's still the best we have right now.

Thomas and Tryon have both returned KO in college. Not that I'd advocate that change now, but I think we're definitely going to have to address it in camp next year.

[shally]

Originally Posted by BurgundyNGold

Speaking of holes, do you remember the size of the hole Rock had to run through on that long KO return? It was like he was shocked to see it there, lol. He went through it in slow motion, I thought. If we had someone back there with a bit of burst, that KO return could have been housed.

absolutely !! if that was tryon, it would have been a TD

[smave]

Originally Posted by AliBabba

When I say that I can't imagine ST without Rock it's more a comment on the lack of depth we have than anything else. I also felt that the KO should have been returned to the house but who's next after Rock, Betts? What about coverage, he made mistakes yes but he's still the best we have right now.

my thoughts exactly.

[AliBabba]

Originally Posted by BurgundyNGold

Thomas and Tryon have both returned KO in college. Not that I'd advocate that change now, but I think we're definitely going to have to address it in camp next year.

Agreed, I think it'd be foolish to think that Zorn would trust the rooks right now considering his track record (Horton notwithstanding) with them thus far.

O/T: now that Springles may be back do you think Horton goes to the bench soon? I mean they may look to protect Springs' hoo-hoo and allow him to play some safety. Get Landry up on the LOS again and allow them to take stock of what they have in D-Hall before next season.

[Biggie]

Originally Posted by AliBabba

O/T: now that Springles may be back do you think Horton goes to the bench soon? I mean they may look to protect Springs' hoo-hoo and allow him to play some safety. Get Landry up on the LOS again and allow them to take stock of what they have in D-Hall before next season.

Hell no. Horton actually makes a huge impact on this defense. Now that Washington's out, I'd actually say that we just run out of that cobra with Springs as the third safety and two linebackers.

And that's why I'm not a coach.

[BurgundyNGold]

Originally Posted by AliBabba

Agreed, I think it'd be foolish to think that Zorn would trust the rooks right now considering his track record (Horton notwithstanding) with them thus far.

O/T: now that Springles may be back do you think Horton goes to the bench soon? I mean they may look to protect Springs' hoo-hoo and allow him to play some safety. Get Landry up on the LOS again and allow them to take stock of what they have in D-Hall before next season.

I would think we'd see more Cobra. The again, I thought we'd see Cobra against Dallas, given how effective it was against them in the first meeting.

[silverspring]

Originally Posted by Keino

For the most part I agree with you, but we aren't using Keebler, so why not just Give Rock his 1 or 2 carries per game?

I couldn't agree with this position more. If we are going to use him for < 5 carries a game then he is a waste of a roster spot. Rock is just as capable and even though he isn't a great blocker he is a much more capable blocker then alexander.

[silverspring]

Originally Posted by AliBabba

O/T: now that Springles may be back do you think Horton goes to the bench soon? I mean they may look to protect Springs' hoo-hoo and allow him to play some safety. Get Landry up on the LOS again and allow them to take stock of what they have in D-Hall before next season.

With our secondary, i would guess that we won't last too long without an injury to springs/smoot/rogers.

[AliBabba]

Originally Posted by silverspring

With our secondary, i would guess that we won't last too long without an injury to springs/smoot/rogers.

As long as its a long enough look to hammer down the last nail in the coffin of Springles' '09 season while giving the coaches a chance to see whether or not Meangelo's actually lost it at 24 I think it may be worth it ....

[skinsfan36]

Originally Posted by shally

absolutely !! if that was tryon, it would have been a TD

or devin thomas he was a beast at mich st at kick returns

[skinsfan36]

and i wanted to see what the kid had. two guys off our practice squad in 3 weeks and old vets not getting the job done in front of them ugh(mw!)

[sinskin]

You know we spent a draft pick on a punter that was so bad he only lasted 6 weeks.... why cant we draft a kick returner that will make a impact and possibly account for some game breakers. Why cant we take a chance on Thomas or tyron for this or even Hall... it cannot be any worse then it is... and even if we fumble back there once or twice we live with it... but something has got to give here.

[shally]

Originally Posted by sinskin

You know we spent a draft pick on a punter that was so bad he only lasted 6 weeks.... why cant we draft a kick returner that will make a impact and possibly account for some game breakers. Why cant we take a chance on Thomas or tyron for this or even Hall... it cannot be any worse then it is... and even if we fumble back there once or twice we live with it... but something has got to give here.

i think the "fumble once in a while", is unacceptable to the coaches.. that is why we have rock doing it..

[ChiefPowhatan17]

Octavien was quite a player at Nebraska. Supposedly he was passed in the draft cause of his inability to stay healthy and a broken leg. I would like to see him do well, but Gatewood is a loss. They should try to get Vince Hall from Tech on the PS, now that guy was a baller.