Byron Leftwich wants to come to DC?

[CNYSkinFan]

We do loves us a QB controversy. Bring it on...can't hurt. I a ma a believer in Campbell, but if Campbell does not cut it I rather have leftwhich then Collins or Colt.

[greatest2]

no. why does campbell need competition? he already is one of the hardest workers on the team. work on the team around campbell, especially the guys right in front of him and he will do well. we just don't have anything offensively.

Leftwich problems are some of the ones we have heard about campbell. long dilivery, hangs onto the ball a little to much.

Tho i think campbell's delivery is much better and fine now that it has been fine tuned, his decision making has become faster.

i say no no. im good were we are. resign campbell. its his team, and it should be his team

[shally]

Originally Posted by greatest2

no. why does campbell need competition? he already is one of the hardest workers on the team. work on the team around campbell, especially the guys right in front of him and he will do well. we just don't have anything offensively.

Leftwich problems are some of the ones we have heard about campbell. long dilivery, hangs onto the ball a little to much.

Tho i think campbell's delivery is much better and fine now that it has been fine tuned, his decision making has become faster.

i say no no. im good were we are. resign campbell. its his team, and it should be his team

why does JC need competition ? because he hasnt proven he is the answer in 4 years thus far.. he is not WORTHY of a long term deal thus far.. he is under .500 as a starter for his career..

i am not saying that leftwich is the answer, but a coaching staff that puts all it's eggs in one basket for next year and assumes that JC will put everything together if only the o line is fixed, is asking for a beating.. i would prefer a qb with true WCO experience as back up

[BurgundyNGold]

I'm thinking that we have to bring in a veteran as a backup/starter this season anyway, so why not Leftwich? He's probably not the long term answer, but he'd be a viable option if the JC experiment goes south. Plus, he's a lifelong Redskin fan who would be emotionally invested in seeing us be successful.

That is, of course, until the ownership alienates him and runs him out of town on a rail... *cough* *Brad Johnson* *cough*

[greatest2]

Originally Posted by shally

why does JC need competition ? because he hasnt proven he is the answer in 4 years thus far.. he is not WORTHY of a long term deal thus far.. he is under .500 as a starter for his career..

i am not saying that leftwich is the answer, but a coaching staff that puts all it's eggs in one basket for next year and assumes that JC will put everything together if only the o line is fixed, is asking for a beating.. i would prefer a qb with true WCO experience as back up

let me get this straight. you want him as your backup. and should jc not do anything in the first say 8 games, he should be benched and Leftwich brought in to round out the year. if HE plays well then ok, if not we look for the long term answer cause neither of them are good.

assuming i got your point right in the above paragraph, the front office has already pretty much told J he needs to show more. Bringing in leftwich is nothing from a message sending aspect. Bringing in someone to just be a backup while having collins and colt is kinda ridiculous. Collins obviosuly stays cause of cap. Colt, well didn't we draft him to be a career backup and spot starter. i have faith in zorns qb coaching (tho that may be 1 of the few things i have faith in him) and think colt will reach that.

bring leftwich in to be a backup does nothing but make us cut a young backup prospect. pointless in my opinion.

on JC contract, i am in the minority and i understand that. But i love the way he plays, he works hard, does everything asked, and will not force anything no matter the criticsm from media and others. i think J is our answer at QB putting his career on the line in 1 year i think is bad. sign him long term, work on the team around him.

[silverspring]

Lets be serious, leftwich is going to get more than backup money because if he is content being a backup pittsburgh will more than likely happily pay him considering how well he stepped in for big ben.

We don't have the luxury of paying big dollars so jc has some competition so just end this thread right now.

[shally]

Originally Posted by greatest2

let me get this straight. you want him as your backup. and should jc not do anything in the first say 8 games, he should be benched and Leftwich brought in to round out the year. if HE plays well then ok, if not we look for the long term answer cause neither of them are good.

assuming i got your point right in the above paragraph, the front office has already pretty much told J he needs to show more. Bringing in leftwich is nothing from a message sending aspect. Bringing in someone to just be a backup while having collins and colt is kinda ridiculous. Collins obviosuly stays cause of cap. Colt, well didn't we draft him to be a career backup and spot starter. i have faith in zorns qb coaching (tho that may be 1 of the few things i have faith in him) and think colt will reach that.

bring leftwich in to be a backup does nothing but make us cut a young backup prospect. pointless in my opinion.

on JC contract, i am in the minority and i understand that. But i love the way he plays, he works hard, does everything asked, and will not force anything no matter the criticsm from media and others. i think J is our answer at QB putting his career on the line in 1 year i think is bad. sign him long term, work on the team around him.

you obviously got little or nothing of what i actually said.

A. campbell needs competition because i am not convinced he is the long term answer.. apparently, the front office thinks along the same lines. providing him with competition does not necessarily make him work harder, but it does provide the team with a viable option if campbell is showing little progress by the halfway mark next year.

B. i NEVER said that leftwich was the best answer. i SAID a qb with true WCO experience would be better.. however, if the choice is between a younger stronger leftwich and collins, i could certainly live with leftwich.. but as of now, i dont think he is ideal.

C. colt is a non issue at this time and doesnt factor into the process at all

D. we obviously disagree about our opinion on campbell. you are entitled to your opinion, but i think that banking on him to be the longterm answer and offering him a contract extension based upon his past performance over 4 years now, is foolhardy

[shally]

Originally Posted by silverspring

Lets be serious, leftwich is going to get more than backup money because if he is content being a backup pittsburgh will more than likely happily pay him considering how well he stepped in for big ben.

We don't have the luxury of paying big dollars so jc has some competition so just end this thread right now.

collins is going to get 2 mil.. pay leftwich not a penny more to do the same job...

[skinsfan36]

Originally Posted by shally

collins is going to get 2 mil.. pay leftwich not a penny more to do the same job...

agreed that would be an upgrade imo. heck start him his release looks quicker with pittsburgh

[colkurtz]

The question is whether Byron would be a better backup than collins.

If he is then what is the reason for not hiring him or some other veteran QB?

The truth is that the FO, including Zorn [who DOES know something about being a QB] is NOT convinced that JC is the long-term answer here. JC may get to start more games here, but his contract and clock is running out.

We need a viable backup to challenge JC and make sure we have the best QB that this team can field. I think Bryon is a better QB than Collins, and if economically viable he might be the answer at backup. Then let's who is better in the pre-season and let them play. Bryon has a much better long ball than Campbell and IMO will beat Collins and JC in a fair competition.

I'd rather have someone besides Byron as backup but would take him over Collins.

[silverspring]

Originally Posted by shally

collins is going to get 2 mil.. pay leftwich not a penny more to do the same job...

I would assume collins isn't going to get anything because we are going to cut him.

Either way leftwich will make more than that next year.

I think it is more likely that we cut collins, sign a 3rd string backup and let colt move up to 2nd string this coming year.

[colkurtz]

Originally Posted by silverspring

I would assume collins isn't going to get anything because we are going to cut him.

Either way leftwich will make more than that next year.

I think it is more likely that we cut collins, sign a 3rd string backup and let colt move up to 2nd string this coming year.

If JC is on the edge we need a viable backup. Colt is a project player who is going to have to do very, very well this pre-season to move up to #2.

[Skinz4lyfe]

Ummm no. Leftwich isn't a WC offense kinda guy. He doesn't need to come here to compete for the starting job because Campbell is better than him. I'd prefer to have a WC QB to come in and compete, if that's what it comes down to. However, would I prefer him over Collins? Probably. With all the other holes on the team this shouldn't be a priority right now. I'd much rather solidify the O-line before we get the QB.

[greatest2]

Originally Posted by colkurtz

If JC is on the edge we need a viable backup. Colt is a project player who is going to have to do very, very well this pre-season to move up to #2.

why? what good is it if campbell plays bad and we go to a better number 2 then collins.

it still isn't the long term answer. so what good do we get out of it, as a team. as a fan we get to see a new player. but team wise, nothing. wont make J work harder. he already spends 49 of 52 weeks at the facility.

bad thing if bring in, teammates may not see J as a long term answer or lose faith in him. J may become unsettled.

While you could say "well if his teammates would think that with a backup he really isn't a starter", or "if he can become unsettled with this he can't handle being a starter". lets not forget he wants a long term deal, FO has already said not until he proves something this year. he already knows its make or break not just for here in washington, but probably the only and last legit shot to be a starter in this league.

i see no upside, and a potential downside.

[shally]

Originally Posted by silverspring

I would assume collins isn't going to get anything because we are going to cut him.

Either way leftwich will make more than that next year.

I think it is more likely that we cut collins, sign a 3rd string backup and let colt move up to 2nd string this coming year.

we arent cutting collins without a safety net.. colt simply aint ready.. it is either collins or another seasoned vet qb..