Cincy's Kelly is the new head coach at Notre Dame

SlinginSam14 · #1 12-10-2009, 09:58 PM

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Notre Dame has settled on Brian Kelly as the man who can restore its faded glory, just as he turned Cincinnati into a national title contender.

He's leaving behind an undefeated and upset Cincinnati team that didn't seem prepared to lose him despite rampant speculation that the job was his.

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Great hire by ND.

Mardy Gilyard and other Cincy players are upset. I understand why they are. Team is trying to finish with a perfect season and he leaves them.

WarEagle · #2 12-10-2009, 11:46 PM

The sudden leaving surprises me. Guess ND wanted to wrap up this search. The pressure in South Bend must be enormous right now. I'm also surprised that the name ain't Urban Myer. But he's a strange man and a cold fish, so maybe I shouldn't be surprised.

SlinginSam14 · #3 12-11-2009, 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by WarEagle

The sudden leaving surprises me. Guess ND wanted to wrap up this search. The pressure in South Bend must be enormous right now. I'm also surprised that the name ain't Urban Myer. But he's a strange man and a cold fish, so maybe I shouldn't be surprised.

I never saw Meyer leaving Florida to coach ND. Hes got a better shot to win at Florida than he ever will if he was the coach of ND imo.

Hes already a icon there winning two national championships.

WarEagle · #4 12-11-2009, 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by SlinginSam14

I never saw Meyer leaving Florida to coach ND. Hes got a better shot to win at Florida than he ever will if he was the coach of ND imo.

Hes already a icon there winning two national championships.

I heard that the conventional wisdom was that Urban had nowhere else to go with the Fla program (but down) after the Tebow era, so right now is a very good time to bail for ND. He's also a serious Catholic so that factored into the speculation, too. Maybe he said no to them.

RedskinsDave · #5 12-11-2009, 07:39 AM

Why leave Florida where he can get a ton of blue chippers every year, play in the best conference and live in the warmth of Florida versus going to a program that hasn't been meaningful in a long time. I think the Notre Dame job is the most overrated by a long way right now.

akhhorus · #6 12-11-2009, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by RedskinsDave

Why leave Florida where he can get a ton of blue chippers every year, play in the best conference and live in the warmth of Florida versus going to a program that hasn't been meaningful in a long time. I think the Notre Dame job is the most overrated by a long way right now.

True, but Meyer coached at ND and called it his dream job(and if he was going to leave Florida, this would be the time with Strong leaving for Louisville, Rodriguez leaving for LSU, Tebow+the oline+the defense leaving for the NFL). Apparently his wife vetoed the move(she likes living in Florida).

Patrick · #7 12-11-2009, 08:52 AM

This is a good move by ND - If he can produce a winning program like the one he built in Cinny he WON'T get screwed out of a championship shot.

SkinsKY · #8 12-11-2009, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Patrick

This is a good move by ND - If he can produce a winning program like the one he built in Cinny he WON'T get screwed out of a championship shot.

The problem is most of the top kids can't hack it in class at Notre Dame. That's the biggest problem. That and kids are staying locally to play college ball now more than ever. I don't think the talent pool is big enough to provide what ND needs to compete at the level they want.

SlinginSam14 · #9 12-11-2009, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by WarEagle

I heard that the conventional wisdom was that Urban had nowhere else to go with the Fla program (but down) after the Tebow era, so right now is a very good time to bail for ND. He's also a serious Catholic so that factored into the speculation, too. Maybe he said no to them.

I see what you are saying. I just dont think Meyer will ever leave Florida unless he retires or gets fired. With what he has done for Florida he can keep them in contention for a long time. If I was him I wouldnt leave to try to rebuild Notre Dame after I won two championships and turned around a team in a powerhouse conference like the SEC.

Patrick · #10 12-12-2009, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by SkinsKY

The problem is most of the top kids can't hack it in class at Notre Dame. That's the biggest problem. That and kids are staying locally to play college ball now more than ever. I don't think the talent pool is big enough to provide what ND needs to compete at the level they want.

That doesn't say much for the high school system (public) but I understand what your saying. I stll belive Kelly will find the type of kids that ND system requires and in two years will have them in the championship race. ................. Best thing to happen to ND since Dr. Lou

shally · #11 12-12-2009, 12:16 PM

ty willingham was a great recruiter for ND.. problem was that he couldnt coach his way out of a paper bag.. Weis was just the opposite.. his first two years, using TW's recruits were his most successful .. when he had to use his own recruits is when the program floundered...

kelly might be the right man at the right program..

SkinsKY · #12 12-12-2009, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Patrick

That doesn't say much for the high school system (public) but I understand what your saying. I stll belive Kelly will find the type of kids that ND system requires and in two years will have them in the championship race. ................. Best thing to happen to ND since Dr. Lou

It's the same type of thing that happens at a place like dook in bball. It's just not as pronounced because you only need 12 kids and not 85. I think Kelly is a good hire for them, but I don't think they'll ever return to the success they enjoyed years ago.

akhhorus · #13 12-12-2009, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by SkinsKY

It's the same type of thing that happens at a place like dook in bball. It's just not as pronounced because you only need 12 kids and not 85. I think Kelly is a good hire for them, but I don't think they'll ever return to the success they enjoyed years ago.

I don't know how much the academic standards hurt them. Weis' problem wasn't recruiting, the coaching(especially defensively) was the problem. Kelly should be able to recruit as well as Weis did, but he has to put together a staff that can teach players well.

ryflan47 · #14 12-19-2009, 11:30 PM

Interesting thought, after reading PFT's post about needleneck (Collinsworth)'s son committing to Notre Dame, after also receiving an offer from Cincy - Is it possible that Kelly could have been more compelled to attract recruits to his NAME rather than his SCHOOL at the time (Cincy). Knowing that Notre Dame was a possibility, it could have had him thinking that if he had players committed to him personally, that there would be a chance that they would follow him to Notre Dame if he went, assuming that he was on board thinking that Weis was 100% out as HC.

I'm not implying anything, just a thought because some players DO become attached to head coaches, and winding up going elsewhere when the HC that they were recruited by leaves before they attended the school. It would have been a smart move by Kelly (although arguably unethical) to get players more attached to him than the University itself. Given the fact that he left Cincy before their BCS bowl game, it's not unreasonable to suggest.