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12-15-2009, 02:48 PM
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Snyder is the owner we deserve
First let me start by saying this is not directed towards anyone person. That being said, Dan Snyder is the owner we wanted, he is the owner we deserve. I say this because talking to different fans and reading different message boards we are no better than he is. We are just as intrigued with shiny baubles as he is.
Take in point coaches I’ve heard plenty of people, myself included scream for a new coach. Zorn was not ready to be a head coach we hired him anyway. Now instead of trying to let him grow into the position we scream that he is not the right choice. Most coaches deserve 3 years. Right now we have a team that is fighting for pride I have to believe that a lot of that comes from him. He was given too many responsibilities in the beginning, now that he has less he and the team are steadily improving. Improvement is not good enough we need to start all over with the next big thing. (Kinda Snyderish)
Now let’s go with the QB (oooo a very hot topic). I have heard screams from the rafters that we need a new QB that knows how to win and JC has had 5 years to develop. First he has had about 3.5 years. In that time he has learned by my count 3 different systems. How many people in here would be good at their jobs if every year they had to learn a new way to do it? To quote a commercial you don’t become an expert by doing lots of things a few times you become great by doing a few things over and over again. So he hasn’t won the games we wanted, it’s time to get the next new thing (Kinda Snyderish). It never occurs to some fans that the best way to improve the team is to put weapons, protection and some consistency around him and then see what he can do. If he has these things and still only treads water then it’s time to move on (i.e. T. Jackson and the Vikings)
Finally let’s look at the draft. Two seasons ago we were screaming about a tall WR. What did the team do we drafted tall 3 WR’s/TE. This was exactly what the fan base was screaming for maybe not the amount but definitely the pic. We took TALL WR’s with injury histories and lack of experience and passed on Desean Jackson (Kinda Snyderish). Now we knew it takes time for them to develop but it was too much time (less than 2 years) and we called them busts. Now they are starting to develop it just takes time.
The Redskins are part of my life some of my happiest times as a child were rooting for them at good ole RFK. It pains me to see them like this. It also pains me that we (I’m including myself) are so impatient that we won’t let the team develop and grow. We are no better than Snyder he is impatient and thinks good things come from constant change. I ask that we all stop take a deep breath and have some patience, or we can look forward to many more years of constant disappointment.
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12-15-2009, 02:51 PM
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Not even dallas deserves Daniel Snyder.....ok maybe dallas
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12-15-2009, 02:53 PM
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Sorry, but that's just dumb (at least the part I read before I quit was).
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12-15-2009, 02:56 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Farmer Ted
Sorry, but that's just dumb (at least the part I read before I quit was).
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Can you be more specific? Whats dumb or are you just make an empty comment.
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12-15-2009, 03:00 PM
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Because he's the owner Redskins deserves, but not the one it needs right now. So we'll hunt him and call for his head. Because he's not out owner. He's a silent idiot, a grade A jerk. A dark heart.
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12-15-2009, 03:07 PM
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Interesting, but I think that you're overlooking mismanagement and conveniently blur the lines in the dichotomy between fans and ownership.
To put it bluntly, the people in this organization are paid for this. We, as fans, pay for what's put on the field. There are different intrinsic responsibilities in the two, and what I view this situation as is a reflection of how the fans have been treated, not the other way around.
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12-15-2009, 03:10 PM
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No I still think we could use a new owner.
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12-15-2009, 03:23 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by redcayman
we are no better than he is. We are just as intrigued with shiny baubles as he is.
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This is where I stopped reading.
Since we don't get a say in who the team picks up, fans are "intrigued" by whatever new pieces are there. It so happens under Dan Snyder the new pieces have usually been these "shiny baubles."
I haven't liked most of the free agent/draft/coach hire moves the team has made the past ten years, but what else am I going to do? Each off-season you try and imagine how the seemingly inept decisions could possible work some how.
That's Dan's fault, not ours.
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12-15-2009, 03:26 PM
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Redskins fans have endured huge sections of time where the team was mediocre to bad, yet have stayed with the team. Redskins fans have endured having only 2 QBs in the history of the team who were good for an extended period of time, yet have stayed with the team. Redskins fans have spent the last 9 years without having even a division title, yet have stayed with the team. Redskins fans have watched Daniel Snyder destroy any credibility the team had, have watched him sue fans, have watched him charge for training camp, have watched him raise prices to ungodly levels, have watched him tinker and make idiotic moves on and off the field, yet have stayed with team.
Saying that Redskins fans deserve Snyder is like saying a child deserves Brain Cancer.
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12-15-2009, 03:35 PM
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danny wants to win and will spend to get there. As an owner he is potentially good. As a football man (GM, scout, sometimes HC) he is a disaster. Therefore we may have the owner we deserve but we don't have the GM etc. we deserve. This is the definition of dysfunction. The real problem is that the owner will not fire himself from jobs he constantly screws up. This is the definition of fan despair.
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12-15-2009, 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Farmer Ted
Sorry, but that's just dumb (at least the part I read before I quit was).
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+1 
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12-15-2009, 03:43 PM
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A provacative post to be sure. We are impatient- it's been so long since we've been relevant, since this team has been anything but joke-fodder. We the fans didn't hire Cerrato or Zorn or Spurrier, we didn't play billionaire fantasy football, all we did was root for our team. How can you say that this proud franchise deserves head cancer? Danny ruined the skins, we didn't.
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12-15-2009, 03:46 PM
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So, we deserve Snyder since some fans booed/dumped on Campbell(among other things)? I like Campbell, but I don't see what he's done to prove that he's a superstar(or even a star) or that we "deserve" Snyder because we "mistreated" anyone on the team.
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12-15-2009, 03:54 PM
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Wow redcayman. You paint with a mighty broad brush.
But, whatever.
PS. I think it's the right move to keep Campbell. So see. Not everyone is the same as YOU want to think we are.
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12-15-2009, 03:57 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by akhhorus
So, we deserve Snyder since some fans booed/dumped on Campbell(among other things)? I like Campbell, but I don't see what he's done to prove that he's a superstar(or even a star) or that we "deserve" Snyder because we "mistreated" anyone on the team.
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I'm using Campbell as an example. I'm not defending Snyder actually quite the opposite. What I'm trying to say is that we as a fan base exhibit some of the same tendancies he does (impatience). We I say we deserve Snyder I mean we reinforce his bahaviors with our actions and support.
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