Wilbon: Shanahan is "bad" at evaluating talent

[cal_junior]

Thanks, Mr. Wet Blanket:

"And it's not like we don't have a book on Shanahan the talent evaluator: He's bad at it. Like Joe Gibbs, Shanahan is one helluva coach but not particularly insightful as a talent evaluator. In fact, the record already shows Shanahan drafted bust after bust after bust in an effort to fix the defense when he was coach in Denver. Even Elvis Dumervil was drafted to play the wrong position and became an All-Pro after Shanahan departed. Shanahan the personnel man undermined Shanahan the coach so badly, he was fired after twice not making the playoffs. So, moving from Denver to Washington is going to change all that?"

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...010602367.html

[Patrick]

Well Mr. (I am a Chicago fan) Wilbon ...... MAYBE that's why Allen is here.

[BurgundyNGold]

This coming from a guy who keeps calling DC a basketball town lol?

Shanny might not be Ron Wolfe or Bill Polian but he's not Joe Gibbs either. And he's certainly not Charley Casserly or Vinny Cerrato. I would put him at better than average. His weaknesses aren't in recognizing talent, they're in taming his ego when the talent is insufficient for the choice. In any case, Bruce Allen will be identifying talent along with a (hopefully) revamped scouting department. Shanny will only have to slect from the folks who have already been vetted and graded. Hopefully for longer than 3 weeks lol.

[BigTex]

I would hope that's why Allen is here. I did read that Shanahan has the final say on personnel matters. I don't know that I really agree with that considering he had a spotty record when he was wearing both hats in Denver, but we'll see how it goes I guess.

[CarMike]

MW is pissed that Shanahan had zero interest in Chicago. [besides Cutler]

[cal_junior]

Originally Posted by Patrick

Well Mr. (I am a Chicago fan) Wilbon ...... MAYBE that's why Allen is here.

I don't know. Everyone keeps tell me that Allen's thing is cap and salary, and that he's not much of a talent evaluator.

Hopefully Morocco Brown is good enough at what he does to start changing Shanny's reputation

[CarMike]

Originally Posted by BigTex

I would hope that's why Allen is here. I did read that Shanahan has the final say on personnel matters. I don't know that I really agree with that considering he had a spotty record when he was wearing both hats in Denver, but we'll see how it goes I guess.

Everyone misses on draft choices. He hit on a good number as well. Akh or fent has made several comments on his "hits".

[SpicyMcHaggis]

Originally Posted by cal_junior

Thanks, Mr. Wet Blanket:



http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...010602367.html

Elvis Dumervil had 8.5 sacks in his rookie season, without starting a game. Now, he may have not made the ProBowl right away, but for a 4th round pick, that is pretty damn great. Plus, he had 12.5 sacks in his second season.

Now, that information was available to me by typing a handful of letters on the google search bar and looking at one nfl.com page. Perhaps Wilbon should have done the same "extensive" research before writing that crap.

[BurgundyNGold]

Originally Posted by cal_junior

I don't know. Everyone keeps tell me that Allen's thing is cap and salary, and that he's not much of a talent evaluator.

Hopefully Morocco Brown is good enough at what he does to start changing Shanny's reputation

Maybe I'm missing something, but who has Morocco Brown selected that would make you think he's better than either Allen or Shanny?

[tuckahoeskin]

I don't like Michael Wilbon. I haven't for quite a while.

[BurgundyNGold]

Originally Posted by SpicyMcHaggis

Elvis Dumervil had 8.5 sacks in his rookie season, without starting a game. Now, he may have not made the ProBowl right away, but for a 4th round pick, that is pretty damn great. Plus, he had 12.5 sacks in his second season.

Now, that information was available to me by typing a handful of letters on the google search bar and looking at one nfl.com page. Perhaps Wilbon should have done the same "extensive" research before writing that crap.

WaPo sports writers generally don't bother to do research, with the notable exceptions of Boswell, Maske and Reid.

[cal_junior]

Originally Posted by BurgundyNGold

Maybe I'm missing something, but who has Morocco Brown selected that would make you think he's better than either Allen or Shanny?

No one. You are missing something.

[BurgundyNGold]

Originally Posted by cal_junior

No one. You are missing something.

If it's no one, then I'm not missing something lol. Wait, did you do the sarcasm thing again?

As an aside, I don't know that Morocco Brown or any of the scouts will be here that much longer anyway. I think the Allen-Shanny broom might end up taking whatever is loose out in Ashburn.

[BIGREDSKINSFAN1963]

this is not anything new.i must have heard this from various people on ESPN and COMCAST the last two days.maybe wilbon decided he'd report it now.
he has his opinion and you know what folks say about those i hope?

[BigTex]

Originally Posted by CarMike

Everyone misses on draft choices. He hit on a good number as well. Akh or fent has made several comments on his "hits".

I'm not just talking about the draft. Everyone has their fair share of hits as well as misses in that department. I'd just prefer to see him stay out of personnel matters, but that doesn't appear to be how things will be setup. That's something I said before he was hired that I didn't want to see.