Huge Day for Bradford Today

[oldskinfan]

Originally Posted by Arkangiest

3 weeks can't come soon enough. So if Bradford and Okung are gone we take Clausen? Why is it so hard for everyone to pin Clausen's value, he has fluctuated from #1 to top 10 to late first round. I'm confused =(

#4 pick and Moss to Denver for Brandon Marshall, their 2nd rounder and 4th rounder. Use both second round picks O-line and the 4th rounder on developmental QB. If Okung and Bradford are gone, probably means McCoy (the DT) is available for Denver.

Skins essentially get a sure thing with their #4 pick in Marshall.

[Arkangiest]

Originally Posted by skins4life24

because he is a qb so people want to put him in the top 10, but he is a qb from notre dame so people want him to be the #1 qb and go first overall, but people who aren't blinded by these two facts see that he has mid first round level talent at best and rate him accordingly.

p.s. GO STATE

I see, good points. The Notre Dame hype machine pulls strings like a mad puppeteer. The Dilemma I see here is this. If we pass on Jimmay, take Okung or Bulaga, and he free falls like Aaron Rodgers, would it be wise to try and trade up with our second pick? Say we trade Andre Carter and our 2nd to Atlanta for their 19th pick?

Do we stand pat and take Saffold with our 2nd pick getting our bookends?

Or perhaps a situation where a team like the Raiders wants to trade up and grab one of the elite talents like McCoy or Berry, do we take him at 8?

My gut feeling cannot see Shanny passing on Clausen and it's hard to justify not taking a chance on a fringe franchise QB. Taking Clausen at 4 would be a reach to most people outside of the ones who love reading Walterfootball.com.

So the real question is, would Redskins nation (the ones in favor of drafting a Franchise QB) be more comfortable with trading up to #1 to get Bradford who is being hailed as a definite franchise QB after his impressive workout, OR taking Clausen in some kind of trade up (2nd draft pick) or trade down scenario?

[Hr fan]

Originally Posted by akhhorus

Interesting that despite his great pro day, the Rams have told ESPN that they aren't going to make any decisions until his private workout a few days prior to the draft....very interesting.

Yea, verily. And they continue to negotiate with others including Suh. Seems more like a delaying tactic to build suspense rather than a need for more information on which a decision would be based.

[Arkangiest]

Originally Posted by oldskinfan

#4 pick and Moss to Denver for Brandon Marshall, their 2nd rounder and 4th rounder. Use both second round picks O-line and the 4th rounder on developmental QB. If Okung and Bradford are gone, probably means McCoy (the DT) is available for Denver.

Skins essentially get a sure thing with their #4 pick in Marshall.

That scenario is an interesting one, however I feel it would be unwise to give up most of our ammo on a WR, albeit an elite one. After writing my little "A Look at the QB's of the past decade" thread I wouldn't be comfortable going the developmental QB route, unless its on Skelton.

In any case I fully expect the Skins to make some kind of trade on April 22nd.

[BIGREDSKINSFAN1963]

all this is up in the air anyhow because the rams are'nt making their final decision on wheter to take bradford until monday april 21st when he works out for them in private.

[hail2skins]

Originally Posted by BIGREDSKINSFAN1963

all this is up in the air anyhow because the rams are'nt making their final decision on wheter to take bradford until monday april 21st when he works out for them in private.

That's crap, they'll take him.

[BIGREDSKINSFAN1963]

Originally Posted by hail2skins

That's crap, they'll take him.

i don't think anybody here would be shocked to see the skins move up to take bradford though do you?

[lorimike]

We'll end up getting fleeced to move up for Bradford. Probably a 1st and 2nd next year as well as our 2nd this year. That is why this team cannot ever build anything. We constantly trade multiple picks for one player in return. That's how you end up with glaring holes at both tackle positions.

[akhhorus]

Originally Posted by lorimike

We'll end up getting fleeced to move up for Bradford. Probably a 1st and 2nd next year as well as our 2nd this year. That is why this team cannot ever build anything. We constantly trade multiple picks for one player in return. That's how you end up with glaring holes at both tackle positions.

How about waiting until there is maybe a hint of a rumor about the skins moving up before getting disgusted?

[wide_awake]

No way guys..



Why do we want to trade up for a potential franchise QB with question marks when we can build up the offensive lines FIRST, two or three pro-bowlers should do it... THEN when we are ready we'll just draft a QB who will be our franchise QB for the next ten years. We won't have to pay him top 5-pick money because we'll be selecting in the middle of the first round with our all-pro offensive line.

And why bother dealing with these questionable prospects when we can get one who has no injury history and played against top defenses in college without a great offensive line in a pro style system and little weapons around him and has perfect character, arm strength, accuracy and intelligence! This year's draft class is weak at QB? Then just wait for a draft so rich in franchise QBs we can get one in the 2nd!

Com'on, everyone knows rebuilding modes go in this order: offensive line, THEN when you are ready you simply draft your franchise QB.

[wide_awake]

Originally Posted by lorimike

We'll end up getting fleeced to move up for Bradford. Probably a 1st and 2nd next year as well as our 2nd this year. That is why this team cannot ever build anything. We constantly trade multiple picks for one player in return. That's how you end up with glaring holes at both tackle positions.

Maybe you haven't noticed, but things have been a little different with Shanahan and Allen making the important decisions.

[NCskinsfanatic]

Originally Posted by hail2skins

That's crap, they'll take him.

I gotta agree h2, I just dont see how they pass on Bradford. The bigger question for me is will someone trade up for whichever premier DT is left(assuming Okung is gone before we pick)? I think we'd be reaching a little bit if we selected anyone other than McCoy/Suh or Berry at #4. If Okung and Bradford are gone my hope is that we can find a partner and trade down a few spots and add a pick.

[lorimike]

Originally Posted by akhhorus

How about waiting until there is maybe a hint of a rumor about the skins moving up before getting disgusted?

I don't even want to hear any blather that they would consider this. Let the draft develope. No need for knee jerk reactions. Who's to say we don't trade up and Bradford ends up like Tim Couch, Jeff George, Alex Smith, Dave Carr etc.

[BIGREDSKINSFAN1963]

if they can get the right people on the oline,it does'nt matter who the qb is.if they give any pro qb 5 or 6 seconds of protection,he should be able to shred any defense!

[silverspring]

Originally Posted by wide_awake

No way guys..



Why do we want to trade up for a potential franchise QB with question marks when we can build up the offensive lines FIRST, two or three pro-bowlers should do it... THEN when we are ready we'll just draft a QB who will be our franchise QB for the next ten years. We won't have to pay him top 5-pick money because we'll be selecting in the middle of the first round with our all-pro offensive line.

And why bother dealing with these questionable prospects when we can get one who has no injury history and played against top defenses in college without a great offensive line in a pro style system and little weapons around him and has perfect character, arm strength, accuracy and intelligence! This year's draft class is weak at QB? Then just wait for a draft so rich in franchise QBs we can get one in the 2nd!

Com'on, everyone knows rebuilding modes go in this order: offensive line, THEN when you are ready you simply draft your franchise QB.

This notion that we have to choose between a future qb or building the oline is absurd. We need both and we should at least pursue both. We could draft a qb today or a new olineman, but that doesn't mean either will be ready for starting duty this year.

The oline could take years to rebuild, especially if we draft duds which is very possible. That doesn't mean you sit on your hands when it comes to developing a qb. Both these options could fail and take time before we know they are failures. So you got to start taking your shots now.