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03-29-2010, 07:18 PM
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PFT: Bradford won't sign pre-draft contract?
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...raft-contract/
"Amid reports that the Rams are talking to the agents for multiple players who could be the first overall pick in the 2010 draft, there's increasing chatter that, as to one of the players, there may not be much to discuss.
We're hearing from multiple league and media sources that Oklahoma quarterback Sam Bradford could refuse to sign a pre-draft contract with the Rams."
If Bradford declines to agree to terms before being picked, and if the Rams ultimately don't select him, Bradford would slide to the Redskins at No. 4, at worst."
Somewhere, Akh is smiling...the theory lives on...
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03-29-2010, 07:23 PM
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If you have the first pick in the draft (like the Rams do) and don't have a franchise QB (like the Rams don't) and there is a potential franchise QB available (like Bradford may be and definitely is the closest thing to in this draft), then you have to make that pick. Not picking one because he won't sign before the draft has happened should not deter the Rams from picking him.
If the Rams don't pick Bradford (assuming they keep the #1 pick) they should be folded as a team.
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03-29-2010, 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by IowaSkinsFan
If you have the first pick in the draft (like the Rams do) and don't have a franchise QB (like the Rams don't) and there is a potential franchise QB available (like Bradford may be and definitely is the closest thing to in this draft), then you have to make that pick. Not picking one because he won't sign before the draft has happened should not deter the Rams from picking him.
If the Rams don't pick Bradford (assuming they keep the #1 pick) they should be folded as a team.
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By the way they have played the last few seasons,they began folding a long time ago.!
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03-29-2010, 07:38 PM
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Seriously though, from a draft standpoint, they are worse off at QB than we are. You shouldn't pass on the only franchise QB in the draft because you expect to be picking high again the following season and can grab a franchise QB then or because you can't have a player signed before the draft.
If the Chargers had followed the Manning edict of not drafting him, they would not have been able to pilfer the extra picks from the Gints.
You don't not pick the (arguably) best pick in the draft because he says he won't sign a contract prior to the draft.
And don't think that Bradford doesn't want to go #1. He's smart enough to know that sliding to #4 costs him money.
Additionally, I wouldn't put it past the Lions or Bucs to pick Bradford and trade him to some other team willing to give up what they want for the best QB in the draft, like the Browns who are amassing extra picks.
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A buffalo herd can only move as fast as the slowest buffalo & those are killed first. This natural selection is good for the herd as a whole because the health of the herd keeps improving by the regular killing of the weakest members. Similarly, the human brain can only operate as fast as the slowest brain cells. Intake of alcohol, killing the slowest & weakest brain cells first, makes the brain a faster, more efficient machine. That's why you always feel smarter after a few beers.
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03-29-2010, 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by IowaSkinsFan
Seriously though, from a draft standpoint, they are worse off at QB than we are. You shouldn't pass on the only franchise QB in the draft because you expect to be picking high again the following season and can grab a franchise QB then or because you can't have a player signed before the draft.
If the Chargers had followed the Manning edict of not drafting him, they would not have been able to pilfer the extra picks from the Gints.
You don't not pick the (arguably) best pick in the draft because he says he won't sign a contract prior to the draft.
And don't think that Bradford doesn't want to go #1. He's smart enough to know that sliding to #4 costs him money.
Additionally, I wouldn't put it past the Lions or Bucs to pick Bradford and trade him to some other team willing to give up what they want for the best QB in the draft, like the Browns who are amassing extra picks.
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they have picked 1 or 2 three straight years so they should be in position for locker and mallet next year lol
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03-29-2010, 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by GenMgr
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...raft-contract/
"Amid reports that the Rams are talking to the agents for multiple players who could be the first overall pick in the 2010 draft, there's increasing chatter that, as to one of the players, there may not be much to discuss.
We're hearing from multiple league and media sources that Oklahoma quarterback Sam Bradford could refuse to sign a pre-draft contract with the Rams."
If Bradford declines to agree to terms before being picked, and if the Rams ultimately don't select him, Bradford would slide to the Redskins at No. 4, at worst."
Somewhere, Akh is smiling...the theory lives on...
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Your post is impossible to read with that type color.
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03-30-2010, 06:30 AM
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Your post is impossible to read with that type color.
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Yeah, I really don't understand what made him think dark red text on a dark red backgrould would work. He must be using the old scheme. I've edited his original post as well the quote in yours. |
03-30-2010, 07:27 AM
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Bradford is sharp and his agent is greedy as are all agents. Show him the money and he will sign. If he doesn't Akh's thesis gains solid ground - the Rams prefer a trade.
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03-30-2010, 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by IowaSkinsFan
If you have the first pick in the draft (like the Rams do) and don't have a franchise QB (like the Rams don't) and there is a potential franchise QB available (like Bradford may be and definitely is the closest thing to in this draft), then you have to make that pick. Not picking one because he won't sign before the draft has happened should not deter the Rams from picking him.
If the Rams don't pick Bradford (assuming they keep the #1 pick) they should be folded as a team.
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See, I disagree but that is mostly b/c I am unsure of Bradford. He isn't Peyton Manning... But he probably isn't Joey Harrington either. With the #1 overall, I want my pick signed sealed and delivered before I pick 'em. Bradford is useless if he is a holdout or tries to cry his way out of town ala Elway.
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03-30-2010, 07:32 AM
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Ok, so are we all on SamB wagon? Cause I'm only hopping on if we're all in agreement.
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03-30-2010, 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by IowaSkinsFan
Additionally, I wouldn't put it past the Lions or Bucs to pick Bradford and trade him to some other team willing to give up what they want for the best QB in the draft, like the Browns who are amassing extra picks.
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While that's a good idea in theory, teams know the Bucs and Lions would have to trade Bradford, so they'd never get true value for him. They'd either end up with less than market value or sign another high dollar QB who would only serve to create problems in the locker room if he performs well in camp/preseason. |
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03-30-2010, 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by IowaSkinsFan
Seriously though, from a draft standpoint, they are worse off at QB than we are. You shouldn't pass on the only franchise QB in the draft because you expect to be picking high again the following season and can grab a franchise QB then or because you can't have a player signed before the draft.
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Not taking a QB because Locker will be an option next year has been floated around here as justification for not picking Bradford. I agree, it's lunacy but don't think that it isn't a popular theory.
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If the Chargers had followed the Manning edict of not drafting him, they would not have been able to pilfer the extra picks from the Gints.
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That was a special case where the Chargers GM didn't like Brees, but did like Rivers. He was fortunate that Rivers panned out and that they could snag so much talent in that weird Manning/Rivers swap but that's about as unique an example as you can find.
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You don't not pick the (arguably) best pick in the draft because he says he won't sign a contract prior to the draft.
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On its own, of course not. However, if you have another option that is arguably the best pick in the draft (Suh) who will sign early (and possibly for a tad cheaper as a result) then that has to factor in. Maybe this is a power play by Bradford and his agent because he doesn't want to play in St. Louis on a terrible team and this is his way of dancing the political dance.
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And don't think that Bradford doesn't want to go #1. He's smart enough to know that sliding to #4 costs him money.
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If you're only playing for one contract then yes, but if he's confident in his abilities then he'll make his real money on his second (and possibly third) contract. The difference between #1 and #4 guaranteed money is @$5-6mill which isn't that big of a deal when you're talking $33-34mill and up already in the bank.
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03-30-2010, 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by IowaSkinsFan
Seriously though, from a draft standpoint, they are worse off at QB than we are. You shouldn't pass on the only franchise QB in the draft because you expect to be picking high again the following season and can grab a franchise QB then or because you can't have a player signed before the draft.
If the Chargers had followed the Manning edict of not drafting him, they would not have been able to pilfer the extra picks from the Gints.
You don't not pick the (arguably) best pick in the draft because he says he won't sign a contract prior to the draft.
And don't think that Bradford doesn't want to go #1. He's smart enough to know that sliding to #4 costs him money.
Additionally, I wouldn't put it past the Lions or Bucs to pick Bradford and trade him to some other team willing to give up what they want for the best QB in the draft, like the Browns who are amassing extra picks.
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I think Bradford is smart enough to know that he could slide a little and still get QB money. Maybe he doesn't want to play in St. Louis?
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03-30-2010, 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by IowaSkinsFan
And don't think that Bradford doesn't want to go #1. He's smart enough to know that sliding to #4 costs him money.
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Actually...sliding from #1 to #4 will probably not cost him money. Matt Ryan was 3rd overall pick (I believe) a few years ago and he had the most lucrative contract that season. Same will hold true for Bradford. Rookie QBs are breaking the "slotting" theory. |
03-30-2010, 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by dj_stouty
Actually...sliding from #1 to #4 will probably not cost him money. Matt Ryan was 3rd overall pick (I believe) a few years ago and he had the most lucrative contract that season. Same will hold true for Bradford. Rookie QBs are breaking the "slotting" theory.
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To add....Matt Ryan and Sam Bradford share the same agent, Tom Condon...so don't be surprised if Bradford gets #1 money at #4...as Ryan did 2 years ago. Also, I'm pretty sure Condon has a pretty good relationship with Danny. Read into that as you like... |
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