Haynesworth, Portis, Landry, Campbell on the block?

The Iceman · #1 04-10-2010, 09:41 PM

I know this some regurgitated information, but this article was on the front page of yahoo today...Seems to confirm that Portis is possibly on the block as well as Landry.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slu...eplayers040910

Arkangiest · #2 04-10-2010, 10:23 PM

I would be absolutely shocked if we draft Eric Berry. Then again... We can always put off LT for another 2-years right? (I'm privatley hoping we draft a top OL at 4, it would be the practical pick)

On a scale of 1 to 10 how much better or worse would our line be if at we picked up Flozell Adams as opposed to drafting Okung/Bulaga/Williams?

Is Eric Berry the next super star Redskins safety? I'm running with this... I predict we are taking Berry. Not just from the yahoo article but I am convinced that Shanny thinks he can draft someone later in the draft and develop him behind "False start" Flozell. Berry is an elite talent and can play FS and CB. While Berry is injury prone I believe he is too good to pass up.

Now if both Suh or Okung are still available it will be one of the most tense draft moments ever.....

What could we get for Landry?

Sean36 · #3 04-10-2010, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Arkangiest

I would be absolutely shocked if we draft Eric Berry. Then again... We can always put off LT for another 2-years right? (I'm privatley hoping we draft a top OL at 4, it would be the practical pick)

On a scale of 1 to 10 how much better or worse would our line be if at we picked up Flozell Adams as opposed to drafting Okung/Bulaga/Williams?

Is Eric Berry the next super star Redskins safety? I'm running with this... I predict we are taking Berry. Not just from the yahoo article but I am convinced that Shanny thinks he can draft someone later in the draft and develop him behind "False start" Flozell. Berry is an elite talent and can play FS and CB. While Berry is injury prone I believe he is too good to pass up.

Now if both Suh or Okung are still available it will be one of the most tense draft moments ever.....

What could we get for Landry?

Here is my two scenarios: We trade Landry,CP, & J.Campbell to the Bills, for Marshawn Lynch, thier 1st,& second round pick. Then we draft Eric Berry, pick that LT Williams, & pick Brand Spikes to play LB in the 3-4.

Starting DB's: D.Hall, Chris Horton, Eric Berry, & C. Rodgers.
Starting O-line: F Adams, Dockery, Rabach, Hicks, & Williams

Or we trade Haynesworth, JC, & Landry to the Broncos for Brandon Marshall & thier first round pick. Then we draft Eric Berry, that LT Williams , & Rolando Mclain.

FunBunch5 · #4 04-10-2010, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Sean36

Here is my two scenarios: We trade Landry,CP, & J.Campbell to the Bills, for Marshawn Lynch, thier 1st,& second round pick. Then we draft Eric Berry, pick that LT Williams, & pick Brand Spikes to play LB in the 3-4.

Starting DB's: D.Hall, Chris Horton, Eric Berry, & C. Rodgers.
Starting O-line: F Adams, Dockery, Rabach, Hicks, & Williams

Or we trade Haynesworth, JC, & Landry to the Broncos for Brandon Marshall & thier first round pick. Then we draft Eric Berry, that LT Williams , & Rolando Mclain.

I don't see Buffalo giving up Lynch a 1st and second, for an overhill RB, a second rate QB, and an Arsehole who is completely overated. I could see us getting a second and Lynch out of the deal. I would love that trade because we could get Eric Berry at #4 then we have 2 second rounders to work on the OL.

Fathead · #5 04-10-2010, 11:55 PM

No one is going to take CP at his current salary.

MDBluefinCrab · #6 04-11-2010, 06:07 AM

You can probably forget about Fat Albert in any kind of trade with Denver as they run a 3-4 defense also.

redcayman · #7 04-11-2010, 07:20 AM

Is anybody else concerned that alot of the trades being rumored are for Defensive players? Portis isn't going anywhere because of his age, milag,e work ethic, and contract. JC was probably gone from the start. But Landry, Hainesworth, Carter, Rogers have all been rumored to be on the block. Even for the picks they might fetch its hard to find starters. It will be huge drop off in talent if we lose these players. Defense was unfortunately our strength and all they needed was good coaching now we run the risk of severly weakening our one strength.

firehawk157 · #8 04-11-2010, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by redcayman

Is anybody else concerned that alot of the trades being rumored are for Defensive players? Portis isn't going anywhere because of his age, milag,e work ethic, and contract. JC was probably gone from the start. But Landry, Hainesworth, Carter, Rogers have all been rumored to be on the block. Even for the picks they might fetch its hard to find starters. It will be huge drop off in talent if we lose these players. Defense was unfortunately our strength and all they needed was good coaching now we run the risk of severly weakening our one strength.

Some players just don't fit with what we are trying to do. Rogers can't generate a turnover for the life of him. That doesn't fit. Haynesworth isn't open to playing NT. That doesn't fit. If we want our corners to be playing the ball, we need a safety who doesn't bite on every single double move and takes good angles. Landry doesn't fit.

Hr fan · #9 04-11-2010, 10:20 AM

Aren't we tired of coaches who worship scheme (Zorn, and particularly Blache) over maximizing the talent available through scheme adaptation? And to the point that most trade discussions being about D players, OLmen are only behind QBs on the $, and hence availability, scale.

No one denies, and hasn't for several years, that OL is our biggest need. IMO LOT is such a huge need that any talk of Berry is inane, though IMO he is an impact player. If we trade down, and IMO this is quite possible because we want proven but not old OL and teams like Balto & NO have some good young T reserves, and particularly during the draft picks seem to be valued over proven talent. We don't know what may be in the works, or what contingencies may be involved. But I am sure there is a plan, and IMO even if we were to wind up with Bulaga/Adams there would be a considerable improvement in our O.

warpaint · #10 04-11-2010, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Arkangiest

I would be absolutely shocked if we draft Eric Berry. Then again... We can always put off LT for another 2-years right? (I'm privatley hoping we draft a top OL at 4, it would be the practical pick)

On a scale of 1 to 10 how much better or worse would our line be if at we picked up Flozell Adams as opposed to drafting Okung/Bulaga/Williams?

Is Eric Berry the next super star Redskins safety? I'm running with this... I predict we are taking Berry. Not just from the yahoo article but I am convinced that Shanny thinks he can draft someone later in the draft and develop him behind "False start" Flozell. Berry is an elite talent and can play FS and CB. While Berry is injury prone I believe he is too good to pass up.

Now if both Suh or Okung are still available it will be one of the most tense draft moments ever.....

What could we get for Landry?

a few years back landry was getting as much attention as berry is now, i respect your opinion but if we dont draft a o lineman with our first pick then in my opinion have some real concerns about allen and company having a good plan on as to how to rebuild this team.

CapitalDefense · #11 04-11-2010, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Fathead

No one is going to take CP at his current salary.

Agreed, we are stuck with CP unless we want something like a 5th rounder for him, then somebody might bite.

Emmanouel8 · #12 04-11-2010, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by redcayman

Is anybody else concerned that alot of the trades being rumored are for Defensive players? Portis isn't going anywhere because of his age, milag,e work ethic, and contract. JC was probably gone from the start. But Landry, Hainesworth, Carter, Rogers have all been rumored to be on the block. Even for the picks they might fetch its hard to find starters. It will be huge drop off in talent if we lose these players. Defense was unfortunately our strength and all they needed was good coaching now we run the risk of severly weakening our one strength.

I'm not worried. Personally I weigh 3rd down conversion percentage and number of turnovers heavier than the other defensive stats and we're at the bottom of both of those categories. Blache and Williams both called a bend don't break defense, our offense was poor, and with all that my feeling is we were very overrated.

Papa Johns can do a promotion giving everyone a dollar off a pizza for every tackle Landry makes and we'd pay full price all season. We have Horton and Doughty who I think play better than Landry at FS, and both can also play SS. So we have 3 SS's and the highest paid one is the least versatile and least reliable of the 3.

BurgundyNGold · #13 04-11-2010, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by warpaint

a few years back landry was getting as much attention as berry is now, i respect your opinion but if we dont draft a o lineman with our first pick then in my opinion have some real concerns about allen and company having a good plan on as to how to rebuild this team.

Agreed.

BTW, NFL Network doesn't even have Berry ranked as the highest S.

HoKiES34 · #14 04-11-2010, 03:41 PM

IMO i wouldn't trade Landry he seemed to be confused alot last year.did he get burned up and down the field in 2007 or 2008 nope. Carlos Rogers even said that Landry was asked to do too much and was confused i think Haslett could get Landry to play at the level we all expect him to. and how would we redskins fans feel if he got traded and had an all-pro season. i feel like im the only one who hasn't lost hope in Landry hope he doesn't get traded and steps up next year. HTTR

HanburgerBum · #15 04-11-2010, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Arkangiest

I would be absolutely shocked if we draft Eric Berry. Then again... We can always put off LT for another 2-years right? (I'm privatley hoping we draft a top OL at 4, it would be the practical pick)

On a scale of 1 to 10 how much better or worse would our line be if at we picked up Flozell Adams as opposed to drafting Okung/Bulaga/Williams?

What could we get for Landry?

Eric Berry would have made a lot of sense before, because a rebuilding team should draft the best player available and not be overly concerned about position and need. But, it is evident that the new regime thinks the Skins can win now. Otherwise, why trade for a 33-yr old QB and sign aging RBs?

If that's the case, I just don't see how the front office can pass up a LT in the first round, because that is the position with the most desperate need. Without a solid LT, McNabb would be running for his life virtually every passing play, just like Campbell did last season.

I think it is a mistake to draft strictly according to need rather than BPA, but I am guessing the current administration will choose the former path because it thinks the Skins are "close" to contending and patching up needs will get them there quicker.

As for how much Landry would bring in a trade, probably not nearly as much as a former No. 6 pick off the board who is still young should. He is out of position at FS due to his lack of cover skills. Not many teams would give a ton for a SS.