Portis Uncensored...WOW

[justinskins]

Originally Posted by akhhorus

And Campbell complained that the home fans made it tough for him to like playing at Fedex, which is worse-imo-than anything Portis has said.

I have to disagree to that. Even if you think the booing was well-deserved, Campbell would haven been dishonest to claim that he liked or looked forward to playing under those conditions. No one likes to be ragged on at work, and Campbell often took the worst of the abuse. On the other hand, Portis has a consistent pattern of talking smack behind the backs of his coaches and fellow players, and of taking his problems directly to the front office instead of going up the chain of command (an attitude Snyder encouraged in star players). Luckily Shanahan and Allen are changing the culture that enabled Portis to act in that way. I don't think Portis is a terrible person, but unlike Campbell his actions off the field have been detrimental to the development of team spirit and thus to the playing of quality football. That is true despite the fact that he is, in my opinion, a significantly more talented player than Campbell.

Also I don't remember the particular circumstances of Campbell making that statement, but I'm guessing it was in direct response to a reporter's question. Cooley was much more active in blogging about his dislike for the booing.

[akhhorus]

Originally Posted by csquared

Ok I'm not good at chopping up your post with quotes so here we go in order.......
1. You also know my stance on Campbell. Glad he is gone. Everything about him was an excuse.

Campbell's mouth wasn't your main problem with him lol

Originally Posted by csquared

2. I'm not sure who ripped Portis publicly except Campbell (see above)

Cooley did(which should be 2 strikes in your book since he ripped the fans also).

Originally Posted by csquared

3. Yes i forgot about Henson(Im sure i ripped him as well). Cooley lost a ton of respect with me when he ripped the fans. I'm sure i made it known in that thread as well.
4. I'm not sure how much more consistent i can get. Like i said earlier... I respect the running back but cant stand the mouth.

I'm not saying you're not criticizing them, but it seems like you're more enthusiastic when it comes to Portis.

Originally Posted by csquared

5. Portis may be right but the way he goes about it is wrong.

Two things:
1-I don't have any problem with a player(only an accomplished, vet player. I would only list McNabb, Portis, Haynesworth and Fletcher as that currently on the redskins) saying something like "there's something wrong with XYZ on this team." I would prefer that they didn't call out a player personally and keep it to a general criticism of a part of the team, but I have no problem with them bringing it up. Especially if they went to the coaches(who did nothing in reaction).
2-The most recent time when Portis had a problem, during the season, with a player's performance, he went to the coaches privately and asked them to do something about Sellers(who as we all saw, looked like crap). Thats exactly what you're asking him to do.

Originally Posted by justinskins

I have to disagree to that. Even if you think the booing was well-deserved, Campbell would haven been dishonest to claim that he liked or looked forward to playing under those conditions. No one likes to be ragged on at work, and Campbell often took the worst of the abuse. On the other hand, Portis has a consistent pattern of talking smack behind the backs of his coaches and fellow players, and of taking his problems directly to the front office instead of going up the chain of command (an attitude Snyder encouraged in star players). Luckily Shanahan and Allen are changing the culture that enabled Portis to act in that way. I don't think Portis is a terrible person, but unlike Campbell his actions off the field have been detrimental to the development of team spirit and thus to the playing of quality football. That is true despite the fact that he is, in my opinion, a significantly more talented player than Campbell.

Also I don't remember the particular circumstances of Campbell making that statement, but I'm guessing it was in direct response to a reporter's question. Cooley was much more active in blogging about his dislike for the booing.

No, it was some round table discussion with Sonny and Theismann. Campbell just blurted it out without being led to it by a reporter.

[ChiefPowhatan17]

Portis has gotten lame. He just thinks LaVar party crashed the funeral to speak or whatever, doesn't he realize that the family asked LaVar to speak.

I just don't get Portis's attitude of everyone is against me, or me against the world, he's has everything he could ever want why continually talk about others. He needs a lesson in respect for others.

[remaxjon]

They both suck

Cheers

[WarEagle]

CP should save some of this for his memoirs.

[LATrueRedskin]

I don't care for Portis running his mouth, but I just can't get excited about this stupid Lavar beef. I really don't care about it.

[Redskinmayhem]

Originally Posted by cal_junior

Because CP thinks a guy ST didn't know well or particularly like should not have spoken at his funeral is "disrespectful" to his memory? I have a hard time seeing that connection.

Yep, CP using ST's funeral (Lavar's speech specifically) to further his own agenda/vendetta against Lavar. He's obviously got issues w/ Lavar. Leave ST out of it. Then the comment about "jumping" Lavar? I'm not saying Lavar isn't free of blame in this little soap opera but CP is always opening his mouth when he shouldn't be. Lavar's job is to talk. CP's job is the run the ball.

[skinsfan36]

cp should shut up,but lavar is a douche. i hate him and think its a joke hes on the radio. did anyone see the strange part in the interview about the car accident? where he told buchanon not to get in the car. whats that all about?

[Emmanouel8]

Just when you think Portis is taking a step forward he goes on another public crusade at the expense of the team. Clearly Portis has deep hatred for Lavar and is trying anyway he can to even the series only to make himself look like a complete immature moron and that pretty much sums up the whole interview.

I agree Portis is a chronic distraction. My personal humble opinion is he's out for himself at any cost. His public lashings against the O line, Sellers, and Zorn were as much about covering up his own faults than helping the team get better. He's been overweight, off-balance, and rusty on the field for a long time. When he did get a hole to run through he'd stumble and fall on his face with an open field in front of him. And yeah maybe the patchwork O line wasn't great rush blocking, or Sellers may have been having an off year, and the coach was in over his head, but he's the $20 million franchise RB tripping over his feet.

What could've been if he kept himself in shape and dedicated himself to practices. He's a great player for for even getting as much done as he did without putting his every effort but he's not worth keeping around if he's still looking to put himself in the spotlight to fuel his ego.

As brought up earlier the truly big news is what's transpiring behind close doors between Shanahan and Allen. I'm sure those two already wanted him out in the worst way and now the season hasn't started and he's already making headlines with another camp coming up. It may come to the point he gets released.

[BurgundyNGold]

I can't really get excited about this latest Portis explosion of duh. Especially since it's probably been less than 20 minutes since LaVar said something in the same zip code of stupid.

Instead, I prefer to marshal my energy for rants about Grossman and Marko Mitchell lol.

[justinskins]

Originally Posted by BurgundyNGold

Instead, I prefer to marshal my energy for rants about Grossman and Marko Mitchell lol.

I definitely think Marko is the better quarterback.

[Goskins11]

It seems to me that this should have been a battle that they kept between themsleves(CP and LA). However, this is in no way shape or form a put down to the team or to any of his teammates. I wish portis would keep his mouth shut, but IMHO it's a stretch to call this a huge locker room divider. Heck, noone on this team ever really played with LA.
It's also a stretch to assiciate his behavior with the likes of vick and packman. CP may be illiterate, but he is not a criminal.

Now if he goes into camp and starts talking about the crappy Oline and hating on new teammates that will be a distration. Than we can consider him gone cause shanny wont put up with that crap.

[joethefan]

The thing that gets me is why would he bring up something that took place over 2 and half years ago and say he had a problem with it. As close as Portis is to Seans' family, why didn't he ask them if they asked Lavar to speak when from all accounts they did ask him to speak?

So if you're gonna be a man, be a man all the time. Don't use the media to get your point accross. We should have never heard about his feelings because he should have been man enough to address Lavar on the issue. But running back and forth to the media expressing how you feel about someone else negatively isn't cool for Lavar and Portis to do.

[BurgundyNGold]

Originally Posted by justinskins

I definitely think Marko is the better quarterback.

LMAO. I'd have to agree lol. Thanks for the laugh.

[Skins7ny]

I really don't care about the underlying beef, but it seems to me that what Clinton is saying that he knows better than Sean Taylor's father, fiancee, etc. who deserved to be invited to speak at Taylor's funeral. That really is an opinion he shouild keep to himself.

Originally Posted by Emmanouel8

Just when you think Portis is taking a step forward he goes on another public crusade at the expense of the team. Clearly Portis has deep hatred for Lavar and is trying anyway he can to even the series only to make himself look like a complete immature moron and that pretty much sums up the whole interview.

I agree Portis is a chronic distraction. My personal humble opinion is he's out for himself at any cost. His public lashings against the O line, Sellers, and Zorn were as much about covering up his own faults than helping the team get better. He's been overweight, off-balance, and rusty on the field for a long time. When he did get a hole to run through he'd stumble and fall on his face with an open field in front of him. And yeah maybe the patchwork O line wasn't great rush blocking, or Sellers may have been having an off year, and the coach was in over his head, but he's the $20 million franchise RB tripping over his feet.

What could've been if he kept himself in shape and dedicated himself to practices. He's a great player for for even getting as much done as he did without putting his every effort but he's not worth keeping around if he's still looking to put himself in the spotlight to fuel his ego.

As brought up earlier the truly big news is what's transpiring behind close doors between Shanahan and Allen. I'm sure those two already wanted him out in the worst way and now the season hasn't started and he's already making headlines with another camp coming up. It may come to the point he gets released.

Originally Posted by skinsfan36

cp should shut up,but lavar is a douche. i hate him and think its a joke hes on the radio. did anyone see the strange part in the interview about the car accident? where he told buchanon not to get in the car. whats that all about?

Yeah, that was bizarre. I am still trying to figure out what the heck he was talking about.

Originally Posted by WarEagle

CP should save some of this for his memoirs.

He'd better have a reallly good ghostwriter.