Wizards 10-11

[ihatedallas]

Summer league started for the Wiz today.

Wall looked very good tonight, and so did McGee. Wall could bring alot of McGees potential out. They seemed to have very good chemistry in their first game. If McGee can continue to improve and Blatche keeps up with what he started last year the Wiz have a nice set of building blocks for the season.

[akhhorus]

I hate to bring up the past, but with Foye signing in LA and Miller in Heat, the Wiz gave up Rubio, Brandon Jennings or Curry for....nothing lol.

[Lavar703]

Originally Posted by akhhorus

I hate to bring up the past, but with Foye signing in LA and Miller in Heat, the Wiz gave up Rubio, Brandon Jennings or Curry for....nothing lol.

Another one of Ernies brilliant moves. While the circumstances were much different considering the team started the year with Butler, Haywood, Jamison and Arenas and was considered to be a real contender in the east but there was never a need for this trade. They basically ended up with nothing from this trade, pretty pathetic.

[RedskinsDave]

The worst part was it wasn't even a salary dump since they were not players at all in free agency. How the very first thing Leonsis did wasn't fire Ernie, I will never know.

[ihatedallas]

Originally Posted by akhhorus

I hate to bring up the past, but with Foye signing in LA and Miller in Heat, the Wiz gave up Rubio, Brandon Jennings or Curry for....nothing lol.

Yea, but Miller and Foye were the missing pieces to a championship run... Wouldn't Curry bring you what those two players brought for less money while also laying a foundation for the future?


Taking the "everything happens for a reason approach". I do think Grunfeld is a joke, and the way Leonsis would like to build this team - through the draft - is what Ernie has been exceptionally horrible at. All in all im happy he fudged last year to have Wall. Walls presence might also help him luck out with McGee, but either way this guy STINKS at drafting. He has drafted 3 people in the last 6/7 years that are still on this roster. Blatche/Young/McGee...and he has a tendency to trade his high lottery picks for teams used goods.

I do applaud him on dismantling the roster so quickly so we can get a rebuild going..

[Arkangiest]

Originally Posted by ihatedallas

Yea, but Miller and Foye were the missing pieces to a championship run... Wouldn't Curry bring you what those two players brought for less money while also laying a foundation for the future?


Taking the "everything happens for a reason approach". I do think Grunfeld is a joke, and the way Leonsis would like to build this team - through the draft - is what Ernie has been exceptionally horrible at. All in all im happy he fudged last year to have Wall. Walls presence might also help him luck out with McGee, but either way this guy STINKS at drafting. He has drafted 3 people in the last 6/7 years that are still on this roster. Blatche/Young/McGee...and he has a tendency to trade his high lottery picks for teams used goods.

I do applaud him on dismantling the roster so quickly so we can get a rebuild going..

It is a shame that the Wizards have nothing to show for that awful 08-09 season, if we had just been lucky enough to get pick #4 we would have potentially ended up with Tyreke Evans. The "everything happens for a reason approach" is the way to go, with hypothetical Tyreke in the picture, the Wiz probably would have won more games then with banged up Miller and invisible Foye, thus eliminating the chance of getting Wall, so in that sense everything worked out. Wall is dynamic!

After watching these first two summer games, withnessing Wall run the floor with McGee and Booker has been very exciting and will hopefully be a high flying combo for years to come. It would be great if Seraphin can contribute this season too, I really liked his highlights in the Nike hoops summit last year. Wall's 8 TO avg needs to improve, I'm certain he is fully aware of that and will learn to be more careful with the ball as he gets more experience.

Looking at the Wiz 2010-2011 season from a distance conjures up images of a team with a starting lineup that can run the floor and will be very exciting to watch, but will be lacking the halfcourt experience and depth to really be able to compete with the Magic, Bulls, Celtics, Hawks, and the cocaine smuggling drug lords of the Miami Heat.

My hope is that the Wizards have a season of growth and improvement, but still end up with a lottery pick. Hopefully the pick is good enough to get a guy like Perry Jones of Baylor or the Wiz get another phantom super lucky ping pong ball again and draft #1 pick Harrison Barnes of North Carolina.

The Wizards would be a slam dunk-a-thon if we got Perry Jones, it would be downright silly. Barnes would be amazing of course but I doubt the Wiz suck enough to land another #1.

Unofrtunately Durant is out of the question, and Carmelo is rumored to be headed to the Knicks along with CP3 FA wise. So where does that leave us? It leaves us completely reliant on the draft, something that Ernie Grunfield is too incompetent to accomplish. Leonsis would be wise to replace him with Kevin Pritchard if he is still avalible. If the Wiz build through the draft like the OKC Thunder did we will be the new beast of the east in 4 years, after the Miami Heat rape everyone within that timespan.

2011/2012 Wizards

PG- Wall/Hinrich
SG- Arenas/Hinrich (Hopefully after a nice bounceback year)
SF- Jones/Thornton
PF- Blatche/Jianlian
C- McGee/Seraphin rotation


If Perry Jones isn't the pick then the obvious choice would be a dominant traditional center like Entes Kanter from Turkey/Kentucky or a SG to replace Gil (assuming a trade takes place) like Will Barton of Memphis or Will Buford from Ohio State.

[skinfanjon]

Originally Posted by Lavar703

Another one of Ernies brilliant moves. While the circumstances were much different considering the team started the year with Butler, Haywood, Jamison and Arenas and was considered to be a real contender in the east but there was never a need for this trade. They basically ended up with nothing from this trade, pretty pathetic.

Not by anyone outside of the Beltway.

Originally Posted by ihatedallas

Yea, but Miller and Foye were the missing pieces to a championship run... Wouldn't Curry bring you what those two players brought for less money while also laying a foundation for the future?

You almost got me to bite lol

[Lavar703]

Originally Posted by skinfanjon

Not by anyone outside of the Beltway.



You almost got me to bite lol

Actually there were quite a few articles about how they would be the suprise team in the East.

[warpaint]

Originally Posted by ihatedallas

Yea, but Miller and Foye were the missing pieces to a championship run... Wouldn't Curry bring you what those two players brought for less money while also laying a foundation for the future?


Taking the "everything happens for a reason approach". I do think Grunfeld is a joke, and the way Leonsis would like to build this team - through the draft - is what Ernie has been exceptionally horrible at. All in all im happy he fudged last year to have Wall. Walls presence might also help him luck out with McGee, but either way this guy STINKS at drafting. He has drafted 3 people in the last 6/7 years that are still on this roster. Blatche/Young/McGee...and he has a tendency to trade his high lottery picks for teams used goods.

I do applaud him on dismantling the roster so quickly so we can get a rebuild going..

probably wasnt even his ideal to dismantle the team,someone told him to do this,he isnt smart enough to have done this on his own, oh heck why did i say that, i had forgotten about him making the trade days prior to the draft and saying he did this because he knew who would be there when the wizards drafted, he didnt have a clue as to who was going to be there .

[oldskinfan]

Originally Posted by akhhorus

I hate to bring up the past, but with Foye signing in LA and Miller in Heat, the Wiz gave up Rubio, Brandon Jennings or Curry for....nothing lol.

Well, the STILL all sucked so bad it got us ... John Wall (lol).
Agree though I was just thinking this when I saw Miller sign with the heat.

[Farmer Ted]

It was a lousy deal, but at least they didn't draft that over-rated loser from Spain. He would have never come over to play in DC and would have just been a distraction. And in the worse case scenario, he would've signed with the Bullets, would have sucked royally, and would have blocked the Bullets from drafting Wall if they had still won the lottery.

[cal_junior]

Fantastic news! The Wiz are heading back to the red, white and blue unis:

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/wiz...-to-red-w.html

[Patrick]

Originally Posted by cal_junior

Fantastic news! The Wiz are heading back to the red, white and blue unis:

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/wiz...-to-red-w.html

Now if they just go back to the Bullets that would be great.

[HailVictory]

Originally Posted by Patrick

Now if they just go back to the Bullets that would be great.

That is one of the things that pissed me off about Gilbert and the Guns; the incident made a revival of the "Bullets" next to impossible.

[Arkangiest]

Wall looked pretty awesome tonight, and the Wiz won their pres-season opener against the Mavs. Nothing to go crazy over but still pretty cool to see.

Still a good 18-19 weeks until basketball becomes relevant.