Wisconsin

[akhhorus]

Originally Posted by RedskinsDave

What percentage of the previously dying industries like U.S. auto makers are? Oh yeah....now that we bailed them out and made the unions take concessions, ta-da! Better cars.

GM did turn their 1st profit in 7 years(maybe that had a lot to do with the union effectively owning GM now and they had a stake in keeping costs down), but how many automakers moved plants to mexico thanks to NAFTA?

Originally Posted by dj_stouty

So an awesome first grade teacher needs to wait 11 years before finding out if he/she is worthy of merit or a raise? How will he/she like it when their groomed, budding 1st grader gets 3 craptastic teachers in a row for 2nd, 3rd and 4th grade, thus negating his/her efforts? We need a system that rewards individual efforts in the classroom.

Thats simply impossible. Whats the metric going to be? GPA? A teacher will grade more leniently. Standardized tests? The teacher will just teach them the test and nothing else. Student reviews? C'mon lol.

[cal_junior]

Originally Posted by akhhorus

Thats simply impossible. Whats the metric going to be? GPA? A teacher will grade more leniently. Standardized tests? The teacher will just teach them the test and nothing else. Student reviews? C'mon lol.

It would have to have to be a combination of factors - parent feedback, peer observation, student success rate - and the criteria will need to be adjusted dramatically based on where the teacher works.

[akhhorus]

A wisconsin judge just slapped a TRO onto the bill that was passed. In theory, they could just try to pass it again(maybe, there's some question about that).

EDIT: they probably can't. The judge TROed it due to procedure until there's a hearing on the merits(which means that the April State Supreme Court elections are about to get crazy).

[akhhorus]

Originally Posted by cal_junior

Much like Ohio, the state legislature in Wisconsin apparently doesn't seem the least bit interested in appearance.

I'm convinced the way Kasich & Co are doing business guarantees this thing gets put on a special ballot in November - and probably gets overturned. Window dressing matters in situations like this.

The AP has just called the Issue 2 in Ohio: the law is defeated. The vote is currently running 63-37 against the law.

[RedskinsDave]

[cal_junior]

Kasich made his own bed with some bait-and-switch after the election. If he had simply gone after public employee benefits without the collective bargaining nonsense he would have been able to accomplish something good for the state.

[akhhorus]

Originally Posted by cal_junior

Kasich made his own bed with some bait-and-switch after the election. If he had simply gone after public employee benefits without the collective bargaining nonsense he would have been able to accomplish something good for the state.

Bingo. Asking the unions to take a paycut is very popular across the country, but slapping on provisions where they're not allowed to strike or collectively bargain has nothing to do with any budget.

[Ibleedburgundy]

Originally Posted by RedskinsDave

Oh man that political cartoon would appear to be devastating for anyone who was ignorant to the fact that tax rates are at 60 year lows right now.

[RedskinsDave]

Originally Posted by Ibleedburgundy

Oh man that political cartoon would appear to be devastating for anyone who was ignorant to the fact that tax rates are at 60 year lows right now.

Oh man, that cartoon would go over someone's head if they were ignorant enough to think that unions don't give a flying farg about anything but more money and benefits for their members.

[Ibleedburgundy]

Yes, the middle class teachers/cops/firefighters and lower class blue collar union members are starving this country to death with their greedy $40,000 salaries and $18 an hour. And they have the nerve to drive around town in their 8 year old Honda Civics - WITH NEW TIRES!!!! The 7% of the private workforce that is unionized right now is ruining this country through their utter dominance of the labor market. The top 1% has doubled their share of our national income over the past 30 years, but clearly it's the hourly wage workers who are extracting abnormal amounts of money from our economy. Tax rates are at 60 year lows right now, but clearly high taxes are to blame for 9% unemployment.

[RedskinsDave]

You're all over the place as usual. It's tough to stay on point with your head that far up your rump.

[RedskinsDave]

http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local...133567508.html

http://articles.businessinsider.com/...l-city-workers

I can go on and stay in my city alone if you'd like.