NCAA tourney thread

RedskinsDave · #1 03-13-2011, 05:17 PM

UNC got a better deal than Duke. That's crap that they can lose badly and get a 2 seed at home and Duke gets sent out west as a 1.

skinfanjon · #2 03-13-2011, 05:48 PM

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UNC got a better deal than Duke. That's crap that they can lose badly and get a 2 seed at home and Duke gets sent out west as a 1.

Boofrickityhoo

CarMike · #3 03-13-2011, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by RedskinsDave

UNC got a better deal than Duke. That's crap that they can lose badly and get a 2 seed at home and Duke gets sent out west as a 1.

Duke should have lost today.

EDIT: Duke has the easiest #2 seed of any bracket. AND a tough match up in the 2nd round.

SkinsKY · #4 03-13-2011, 06:44 PM

If there's one thing that seems to be true. Today's games meant nothing for seeding. Alabama beat UGa twice in the last two weeks, both were on the bubble and UGa makes it in.

UK beat UF convincingly today ( and twice in ten days) to win the SEC but UK is a 4 going against the #1 overall and Florida gets a 2?

I think tOSU has the hardest road for a #1, and it's not close for me.

Joke time: Did anyone in the selection committee realize the upcoming jokes by giving Rick Pitino Morehead in the first round? I mean, seriously.

akhhorus · #5 03-13-2011, 07:05 PM

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Joke time: Did anyone in the selection committee realize the upcoming jokes by giving Rick Pitino Morehead in the first round? I mean, seriously.

I heard that Louisville will only get a 27 second shot clock in the tourney *rimshot*

SkinsKY · #6 03-13-2011, 07:07 PM

From Pitino's own testimony, he only needs a 15 second clock.

akhhorus · #7 03-13-2011, 07:13 PM

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From Pitino's own testimony, he only needs a 15 second clock.

I bet he enjoyed it longer than the BYU forward...

dj_stouty · #8 03-14-2011, 08:31 AM

I'm shocked that VCU made it in by the skin of their teeth, but I'll take it. Their coach didn't even have the players collectively meet for the selection show because he was convinced they were't going to make it. Overall, I think the team deserved their spot after beating Witchita State and GMU late in the season...as well as play ODU to the wire in the CAA finals.

The best part about VCU making it was the fact that VT didn't. lol. Lots of Hokie fans pissed on Sunday afternoon.

Glad to see the CAA getting (3) teams in the dance as well as (5) total from Virginia. (ODU, GMU, VCU, Hampton and Richmond)

Watch out for ODU and Richmond. I think either one could pull early upsets...

Keino · #9 03-14-2011, 08:55 AM

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Duke should have lost today.

EDIT: Duke has the easiest #2 seed of any bracket. AND a tough match up in the 2nd round.

In addition to not deserving a #1 seed and getting placed in the bracket with the least number of Big East teams.

Personally, I am happy for VCU, but I don't think they deserved the spot and certainly not ahead of Virginia Tech. I am hoping for a VCU-Georgetown Round 1 match-up, so hopefully they beat USC.

dj_stouty · #10 03-14-2011, 10:03 AM

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In addition to not deserving a #1 seed and getting placed in the bracket with the least number of Big East teams.

Personally, I am happy for VCU, but I don't think they deserved the spot and certainly not ahead of Virginia Tech. I am hoping for a VCU-Georgetown Round 1 match-up, so hopefully they beat USC.

No matter how much the field is expanded, there will always be debate on who got snubbed and who didn't.

IMO, VCU deserved it for a few reasons; One, the CAA was one of the top mid-majors in the country and having three teams represented for the first time made sense. Remember - VCU has wins over the other two CAA entries. Two, VCU had three top-50 victories - all of which occured away from the Seigal Center. Third, they participated in and won their bracketbuster game against Wichita State, which was designed to get mid-majors the opportunity to improve their rpi. Speaking of rpi, VCU's was 53 compared to BC's 61, VT's 62 and Colorado's 65. Finally, they have 4 wins over the current field -identical to VT, BTW.

I think VCU's full season resume holds up here - but remember they got the nod for the play-in game...and nothing is guaranteed they will face G-town in the "real" first round. (although, like you, I'd love to see that matchup)

VT probably deserved it as well...especially after beating Duke...but that sweep from UVA didn't help matters...

Skaggsrules · #11 03-14-2011, 10:14 AM

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In addition to not deserving a #1 seed and getting placed in the bracket with the least number of Big East teams.

Personally, I am happy for VCU, but I don't think they deserved the spot and certainly not ahead of Virginia Tech. I am hoping for a VCU-Georgetown Round 1 match-up, so hopefully they beat USC.

VCU deserved to be in over VT when you look at all the numbers, or just watch both teams play, VCU is better than VT. Colorado, BC, and Alabama deserved to be in over as well VT.

Keino · #12 03-14-2011, 10:22 AM

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VCU deserved to be in over VT when you look at all the numbers, or just watch both teams play, VCU is better than VT. Colorado, BC, and Alabama deserved to be in over as well VT.

I agree about Colorado who should be in, but disagree about VCU, Bama and BC. Where was BC's quality win? VCU limped into their conference tourney and had a great showing and I liked their team, but I don't think the CAA should have sent anyone but GMU and ODU.

Virgina Tech won 21 games this year. They beat then #1 Duke.

They played in a tougher conference than the CAA and teams like PSU have no place in the tourney in my opinion.

Skaggsrules · #13 03-14-2011, 11:18 AM

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I agree about Colorado who should be in, but disagree about VCU, Bama and BC. Where was BC's quality win? VCU limped into their conference tourney and had a great showing and I liked their team, but I don't think the CAA should have sent anyone but GMU and ODU.

Virgina Tech won 21 games this year. They beat then #1 Duke.

They played in a tougher conference than the CAA and teams like PSU have no place in the tourney in my opinion.

BC - Texas A&M was a quality win, but probably not as good as beating VT...TWICE, and finishing ahead of VT in the ACC

VCU - yeah, limped into the CAA tourney...losing to 4 regular season 20 win teams. Their wins AT ODU, and "neutral" GMU alone are collectively better than VT's home win vs. Duke and any other "good win" VT had. VCU had 2 wins vs. the RPI top 25 and 3 vs. the RPI top 50....VT was 1 and 2. Don't have the SOS numbers, but VCU played a tougher schedule OOC which is a big deal, and Greenberg should know that by now.

VCU RPI: 47
VT RPI: 61

The CAA had 6 teams in the regular season with 20 wins, the notion that the CAA was weaker than the ACC is true, but the gap between the two is narrow...really narrow. The 6th place ACC team is not as good as the 4th place CAA team

Penn St - Meh, not too impressed with them either, but they had a strong schedule, and again, big thing. Making the finals in the Big 10 probably left an impression.

Greenberg got what he deserves scheduling 4-5 joke games, instead of just one or two to start the year, even though that's been the case the last two years

Keino · #14 03-14-2011, 11:42 AM

Ugh, I thought the VA Tech SOS (77, RPI of 61) was much higher than it was and I thought VCUs was somewhere around 80. The latter is correct, as VCUs SOS is 85 and their RPI is 48. They deserve it more than Tech, but they still don't deserve one of 37 at-large bids in my opinion.

I withdraw my objections relative to Va Tech.

I don't think UAB, VCU or PSU deserve to be there. I think both Carolina and Duke each got a seed that is one too high.

CarMike · #15 03-14-2011, 11:45 AM

I think VT losing twice to the Hoos hurt them in the end. Plus losing right after they beat dook.

But I agree with you. VT > VCU

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Originally Posted by Keino

I agree about Colorado who should be in, but disagree about VCU, Bama and BC. Where was BC's quality win? VCU limped into their conference tourney and had a great showing and I liked their team, but I don't think the CAA should have sent anyone but GMU and ODU.

Virgina Tech won 21 games this year. They beat then #1 Duke.

They played in a tougher conference than the CAA and teams like PSU have no place in the tourney in my opinion.