Free agent speculation from JLC via PFT

smittyskin · #1 07-13-2011, 08:35 AM

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...ins-wish-list/

I guess I would be okay with these guys. I think we need another solid corner though. Any thoughts on A. Franklin versus Kris Jenkins?

BIGREDSKINSFAN1963 · #2 07-13-2011, 09:34 AM

i'd take holmes before i woul braylon edwards! marshall yanda is got to be number 1 on the ravens resigning list is'nt he?

Santheb · #3 07-13-2011, 09:47 AM

Seems like a lot of high priced people to squeeze under the cap. I'm all for Yanda, but placing him next to Rabach instantly deteriorates his value to this team. Casey Rabach is pretty much a black hole of suck, compromising everybody in his immediate vicinity, dragging them down to his level.

Are there any decent FA center's this year?

shally · #4 07-13-2011, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Santheb

Seems like a lot of high priced people to squeeze under the cap. I'm all for Yanda, but placing him next to Rabach instantly deteriorates his value to this team. Casey Rabach is pretty much a black hole of suck, compromising everybody in his immediate vicinity, dragging them down to his level.

Are there any decent FA center's this year?

Montgomery, actually..Would be an instant upgrade without big time expense

otherwise, Baas or Sendlein would be fine

and adding the Jenkins Brothers would be a huge upgrade for the D line.. the only questions about Kris are his ability to stay healthy now.. if he can, he would be a cheaper alternative to Franklin, who will cost a mint to sign

Moe · #5 07-13-2011, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by smittyskin

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...ins-wish-list/

I guess I would be okay with these guys. I think we need another solid corner though. Any thoughts on A. Franklin versus Kris Jenkins?

Sounds like so much excrement being tossed at the wall to see what sticks.
-Holmes is a talent, but he's also 1 strike away from a suspension of some length, not to mention the realities that this team just drafted a ton of WR's and don't exactly have the most encouraging QB situation to lure a lot of WR's in.

- Yanda would fill a need nicely but I think the Ravens will find a way to retain him. They're a contender and losing him would hurt.

-Cullen Jenkins makes some sense and also fills a need so this one could bear fruit.

-Kris Jenkins is so banged up that at this point he's a spot player who should only be signed to an incentive contract. I don't buy him being a target due to his age, injury history, career list of always feeling underpaid and the fact that he's publicy stated that he doesn't like the Skins.

-Cofield will be available but he's a 4-3 DT, so I'm not sure where he fits for the price he'll be able to command. It wouldn't shock me to see him in the fold but he'll get some run from a lot of teams that better fit his style.

-Gaither...meh. He's can play but he's a headcase with a potentially gimpy back and as a backup would be great but not too many headcases thrive as backups.

-Chester is interesting because he's one of the few Centers that will be out there. However, he's never been able to take that spot for the Ravens, which probably says a lot. Maybe he needs to a fresh start or maybe he's Rabach v2.0

The list of guys they want to retain is logical and wouldn't surprise me. Buchannon doesn't excite me and i think they'll look at one of the free agent CB's that'll be available, but the rest seem likely. One position that wasn't mentioned is LB, whichI think will get some attention.

Gravy · #6 07-13-2011, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by shally

Montgomery, actually..Would be an instant upgrade without big time expense

otherwise, Baas or Sendlein would be fine

and adding the Jenkins Brothers would be a huge upgrade for the D line.. the only questions about Kris are his ability to stay healthy now.. if he can, he would be a cheaper alternative to Franklin, who will cost a mint to sign

Did Shanny NOT see the Titans game to see that Montgomery made our line instantly better? Cut Rabach and add Baas would be good

nicefellow31 · #7 07-13-2011, 11:03 AM

This is what caught my eye

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Shanahan has been unwavering in his support of Beck, to the dismay of some in the organization who haven't seen anything to suggest the former Raven and Miami Dolphin can be a competitive starting quarterback. With the 2010 season lost, Shanahan chose to play Grossman over Beck, and some at Redskins Park wonder why Beck, if he was indeed the future, didn't receive the call in those meaningless games. "He is set on Beck," said a source familiar with Shanahan's thinking. "That's his guy. He isn't just saying it for the media or to blow smoke. He's serious as hell about it."

I wonder where that "dismay" is coming from? Danny? Allen? Who?

LadyNRedskinsfan · #8 07-13-2011, 11:05 AM

Here's a more detailed article on the free agent speculation by Jason LaCanfora.

Link

akhhorus · #9 07-13-2011, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by nicefellow31

This is what caught my eye

I wonder where that "dismay" is coming from? Danny? Allen? Who?

The rest of the offense?

As for the names Holmes and Gaither are plausible, but Cullen Jenkins et al with all the Dline pieces we have already? Signing Moss AND Holmes? Does not compute. Resigning Brown and going after Gaither? Also does not compute.

That being said, I fully expect the skins to try all this so that people will forget that they are pushing John Beck out there at Qb lol.

shally · #10 07-13-2011, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by akhhorus

The rest of the offense?

As for the names Holmes and Gaither are plausible, but Cullen Jenkins et al with all the Dline pieces we have already? Signing Moss AND Holmes? Does not compute. Resigning Brown and going after Gaither? Also does not compute.

That being said, I fully expect the skins to try all this so that people will forget that they are pushing John Beck out there at Qb lol.

implausible we dont sign at least 1 QB-- either UDFA like Devlin, or perhaps a young reserve.

second, why we wouldnt just go after Harris to play the RT is beyond me. he was drafted by Shanahan and is 4 years younger than Brown with less injury history. plus, he actually wants to play the Right tackle position, unlike Brown, who sees himself as a LEFT tackle first.

i think the Ravens will go hard after Yanda, so plan B should be to go after the right side of the Falcons line

corner is a big concern until we decide who takes Rogers spot

akhhorus · #11 07-13-2011, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by shally

implausible we dont sign at least 1 QB-- either UDFA like Devlin, or perhaps a young reserve.

second, why we wouldnt just go after Harris to play the RT is beyond me. he was drafted by Shanahan and is 4 years younger than Brown with less injury history. plus, he actually wants to play the Right tackle position, unlike Brown, who sees himself as a LEFT tackle first.

i think the Ravens will go hard after Yanda, so plan B should be to go after the right side of the Falcons line

corner is a big concern until we decide who takes Rogers spot

Shally, stop trying to apply reason and logic lol.

Patrick · #12 07-13-2011, 12:39 PM

How about ???? ...... ANY of these articles that are written are nothing more that speculation. And besides if you add enough big names to any teams list (as one of these so-call expert nfl insiders do) you're going to come up with one or two correct ones. ............. NO ONE knows what Shanahan/Allen (I'm not sure they even know) are going to do, or any other coach/GMs. Bottomline is if Shanny/Allen go after young quality OG, OC, RT, NT, CB, and WR, then I'd say they are trying to be competitive this season. IF they go after mostly UDFA and one or two position players proven vets (stop-gaps) then it's pretty evident that they are building for the future (based on another strong draft in 2012).

akhhorus · #13 07-13-2011, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Patrick

How about ???? ...... ANY of these articles that are written are nothing more that speculation. And besides if you add enough big names to any teams list (as one of these so-call expert nfl insiders do) you're going to come up with one or two correct ones. ............. NO ONE knows what Shanahan/Allen (I'm not sure they even know) are going to do, or any other coach/GMs. Bottomline is if Shanny/Allen go after young quality OG, OC, RT, NT, CB, and WR, then I'd say they are trying to be competitive this season. IF they go after mostly UDFA and one or two position players proven vets (stop-gaps) then it's pretty evident that they are building for the future (based on another strong draft in 2012).

If they don't have a real QB, they aren't trying to be competitive no matter who they sign imo.

shally · #14 07-13-2011, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by akhhorus

Shally, stop trying to apply reason and logic lol.

sheesh... you would hope that things are better without the hand of Cerrato on the steering wheel...

Skins7ny · #15 07-13-2011, 01:21 PM

If PFT is right, we will be able to field the NFL's first all-Jenkins defensive line:

RDE Cullen Jenkins
NT Kris Jenkins
LDE Jarvis Jenkins

Maybe this is the new strategy. Stress cohesiveness of play by having each unit manned by people who share the last name. Brilliant!

I don't think that Kris Jenkins has much left in the tank. Cullen Jenkins is a good player, but I would rather go younger at the position. Marshall Yanda is probably going to command a top offer, and overpaying guards is not usually the secret to salary cap success, but he would be a huge upgrade over what we have now. I agree with Shally about Ryan Harris over Jamal Brown, esp. since Harris should be cheaper and is a proven fit for Shanahan's offense. I would stay away from both Holmes and Gaither-we have had enough head cases on this team, and enough drama. Let's stop picking up other teams' baggage.

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Originally Posted by nicefellow31

This is what caught my eye
I wonder where that "dismay" is coming from? Danny? Allen? Who?

David Donovan.