Free agent speculation from JLC via PFT

[shally]

Originally Posted by Patrick

How about ???? ...... ANY of these articles that are written are nothing more that speculation. And besides if you add enough big names to any teams list (as one of these so-call expert nfl insiders do) you're going to come up with one or two correct ones. ............. NO ONE knows what Shanahan/Allen (I'm not sure they even know) are going to do, or any other coach/GMs. Bottomline is if Shanny/Allen go after young quality OG, OC, RT, NT, CB, and WR, then I'd say they are trying to be competitive this season. IF they go after mostly UDFA and one or two position players proven vets (stop-gaps) then it's pretty evident that they are building for the future (based on another strong draft in 2012).

if the estimates of how much money the Redskins will have to spend just to reach the cap floor are even close to being true, there is no reason why the Redskins cannot be competitive this year.

that is not saying we should be a playoff contender, but we should be able to be competitive against all but the elite teams we face this year

[shally]

Originally Posted by Skins7ny

If PFT is right, we will be able to field the NFL's first all-Jenkins defensive line:

RDE Cullen Jenkins
NT Kris Jenkins
LDE Jarvis Jenkins

Maybe this is the new strategy. Stress cohesiveness of play by having each unit manned by people who share the last name. Brilliant!

I don't think that Kris Jenkins has much left in the tank. Cullen Jenkins is a good player, but I would rather go younger at the position. Marshall Yanda is probably going to command a top offer, and overpaying guards is not usually the secret to salary cap success, but he would be a huge upgrade over what we have now. I agree with Shally about Ryan Harris over Jamal Brown, esp. since Harris should be cheaper and is a proven fit for Shanahan's offense. I would stay away from both Holmes and Gaither-we have had enough head cases on this team, and enough drama. Let's stop picking up other teams' baggage.
David Donovan.

Larry Allen proved that if you have a top guard who can also play tackle at a superior level, you give your line tremendous flexibility. Having a guy like Yanda who can move from Guard to Tackle would allow coaches to tinker with the line without falloff. injuries occur, so why not have the means to deal with it ?

a parlay of Yanda, Harris/Clabo/Brown and moving Montgomery to Center would provide an instant fix and keep Beck or Grossman upright a much greater percentage

[akhhorus]

Originally Posted by shally

sheesh... you would hope that things are better without the hand of Cerrato on the steering wheel...

All starts at the top. Shanny is making these decisions, but Snyder isn't enabling, to quote Lincoln, the better angels of his nature lol.

[Keino]

Well whoever is expressing this "dismay" is expressing the same exact concerns that some of us stupid fans expressed, based on the handling of the QB situation. If Beck was the guy of the future (now), why in the blue hell would you play Rex Grossman? Who evaluates back-ups outside of pre-season and practice? This is beyond moronic.

[CNYSkinFan]

seriously...if I see one more time we are looking at a 4-3 guy to play our 304 I am going to kill the first person I come across named Mike, Kyle, Jim Haslett, or shanahan

[Patrick]

Originally Posted by akhhorus

If they don't have a real QB, they aren't trying to be competitive no matter who they sign imo.

QB comes next year .... .......gives the OL time to jell

[akhhorus]

Originally Posted by Patrick

QB comes next year .... .......gives the OL time to jell

You build around the QB, not create a donut to hopefully fill in. And if Shanny is convinced that Beck is the future now, unless he has a total meltdown of a season, why would he considering drafting a QB high next year?

[nicefellow31]

Originally Posted by Skins7ny

If PFT is right, we will be able to field the NFL's first all-Jenkins defensive line:

RDE Cullen Jenkins
NT Kris Jenkins
LDE Jarvis Jenkins

Maybe this is the new strategy. Stress cohesiveness of play by having each unit manned by people who share the last name. Brilliant!

I don't think that Kris Jenkins has much left in the tank. Cullen Jenkins is a good player, but I would rather go younger at the position. Marshall Yanda is probably going to command a top offer, and overpaying guards is not usually the secret to salary cap success, but he would be a huge upgrade over what we have now. I agree with Shally about Ryan Harris over Jamal Brown, esp. since Harris should be cheaper and is a proven fit for Shanahan's offense. I would stay away from both Holmes and Gaither-we have had enough head cases on this team, and enough drama. Let's stop picking up other teams' baggage.
David Donovan.

That's them Jenkins boys from Vulcan. Any Boomerang fans?

[jaylen]

gee wiz Holmes. Really have we put that much emphasis on Santonio Holmes hopefuly JLC is just blowing smoke about that with better options out there Holmes a drug issue guy with possible serious headcase issues. Come on.

and I'm done fishing for Ravens rejects Ozzie knows what he's doing if he doesn't want gaither I don't him either.

Cullen okay Fat jack Khris no thanks,

Very few of those names make sense and I didn't see cb on there anywhere.

Yanda okay. I'll buy that.

and the idea they are questioning Rabach is the best news in the whole article by JLC.

[skinsfan36]

both jenkins would give us alot of depth. id prefer franklin to kris jenkins but he will cost more. i like the idea of signing chris chester and replacing rabach(well with anyone).resigning buchanon and letting barnes ease into starting seems like a good idea. i hope we sign 3 olinemen(at least two) a dlinemen,a ILB. now holmes is a good player but will be expensive and still has those character issues but is a huge upgrade over moss. this should be interesting

[BigCountry]

Originally Posted by jaylen

gee wiz Holmes. Really have we put that much emphasis on Santonio Holmes hopefuly JLC is just blowing smoke about that with better options out there Holmes a drug issue guy with possible serious headcase issues. Come on.

and I'm done fishing for Ravens rejects Ozzie knows what he's doing if he doesn't want gaither I don't him either.

Cullen okay Fat jack Khris no thanks,

Very few of those names make sense and I didn't see cb on there anywhere.

Yanda okay. I'll buy that.

and the idea they are questioning Rabach is the best news in the whole article by JLC.

A good 20 teams send their scouts to Ravens pre-season games to watch these "rejects"

[Patrick]

Originally Posted by akhhorus

You build around the QB, not create a donut to hopefully fill in. And if Shanny is convinced that Beck is the future now, unless he has a total meltdown of a season, why would he considering drafting a QB high next year?

and Shanny has never been wrong about a QB????
But anyway - he'll consider it when Beck turns out to be just an OK QB and realizes that he's not what he is looking for in terms of a starting QB. AND that is IF this isn't a smoke screen right now but we'll know alot more come FA period. ................ AND to be honest - I do HOPE the Beck turns out to be the second coming of a Curt Warner type guy, AND I hope the Skins DO pickup "quality" young FAs at the same time. I'm getting tired of sub.500 seasons while becoming the laughing stock of the NFL. ........... I just have little faith in Shanahan's ability of "Built" a contenting team.

[akhhorus]

Originally Posted by Patrick

and Shanny has never been wrong about a QB????

?

Originally Posted by Patrick

But anyway - he'll consider it when Beck turns out to be just an OK QB and realizes that he's not what he is looking for in terms of a starting QB. AND that is IF this isn't a smoke screen right now but we'll know alot more come FA period. ................ AND to be honest - I do HOPE the Beck turns out to be the second coming of a Curt Warner type guy, AND I hope the Skins DO pickup "quality" young FAs at the same time. I'm getting tired of sub.500 seasons while becoming the laughing stock of the NFL. ........... I just have little faith in Shanahan's ability of "Built" a contenting team.

Considering the track record so far in DC, I can't assume that Shanny is capable of admitting a mistake, especially when it comes to Qbs.

[SkinsGuru77]

First I respectfully disagree with the notion that you always have to build around a QB and can’t build your offensive line and skill positions first before draft a QB. In my opinion I think that if you give your rookie QB a solid line first and WR’s he can depend on first it only increases his likelihood to succeed his first year and makes the transition to the NFL easier.
With that said Shanahan locked and loaded on Beck isn’t necessarily a bad thing. If I look at this dispassionately and not with my Redskins Goggles on I would think that taking a look this season at Beck and having Grossman as our back up is not necessarily a horrible plan. It works on many levels:

1. We see what we have in Beck: Option 1 he is great and problem is solved, Option 2 he is average and we know he falls in the “good but not great” category and we draft a QB. Option 3 he is just horrible with a capital “H” and we are in great position to draft a QB.

2. This strategy buys Shanahan Time while expectations are still low. None of us really believes the Redskins are a playoff contender little lone a Super bowl contender. We have time to coach the young players drafted, Build our D and if it doesn’t work out at the QB position or we learn we need additional players next year Shanahan can still claim he is Re-Building.

As far a not drafting QB and not signing one, I believe Shanahan looked at the landscape this offseason and didn’t see anything he liked and if he is going to succeed he can’t afford to try and fit a square peg in a round hole at the QB position like he did with McNabb. It’s better to see what he has in Beck and if all else fail give Grossman another shot with and improved line (Contingent on the FA) and make your move next year. Next year Draft class is expected to be much better at the QB Position and a lot of prospects in my Opinion, Luck & Barkley fit Shanahan (Father & Son) system better than anyone that was available in this draft.

These are just my opinions and are not to offend. I am a Lifelong Redskins fan and no matter what Danny, Shanahan etc.. Ever do with effect that. Peace to All and HAIL TO THE REDSKINS!!!

[jaylen]

Originally Posted by BigCountry

A good 20 teams send their scouts to Ravens pre-season games to watch these "rejects"

the same 20 scouts show up at Skins games as well its their job.