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Peyton Manning - The Answer
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Old 11-16-2011, 08:34 PM
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All this talk about Andrew Luck but seeing the game against Oregon made me realize one thing : with our offensive line and lack of weapons on offense, Luck and every other rookie QB possibility is going to be running for their life for the first two years. They will quickly become damaged goods AKA Jason Campbell

If the Colts get the #1, they are certainly picking Luck. We look assured of having a top 5 pick and Indy would love the chance to take that pick straight up for Manning. Having Luck and still a top 5 pick would make it easy for the Indy fans to digest losing Manning. And that is the most important barrier from him leaving.

So does any of this make sense for the Redskins:

1) Manning was at the top of his game when he got hurt. Not some aging vet holding on to the glory years

2) Manning at 80% is better than any rookie QB would be after three years injury free

3) This years Colts prove that Manning can singlehanded take a bottom team and make them a deep playoff threat. Without him they are the worst team in the league. Imagine what he can do for us and we are maybe 5 teams better.

4) Manning instantly improves our wr production and running game by opening up the deep pass. This means less skill position holes we need to fill through the draft or free agency and more for the O and D lines

5) Kyle Shanahan isnt going anywhere for the next two years. With Manning, however, you get a player who is 60% great QB and 40% offensive coordinator anyway.

I have always hated the big free agent names but if you got a chance to get Peyton Manning, you sell the farm. End of story. This team has no chance of being competitive for the next 5 years with the Giants and Dallas having young QB's. This is still a weak division and can be taking. Manning is the answer.
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Old 11-16-2011, 08:48 PM
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1) manning has missed an entire season after his 3rd neck surgery. there's no guarantee he'll even be back and ready to play next season... or ever.

2) we saw what happened when mcnabb tried to freelance a bit. kyle wants robots for his precious scheme. peyton manning's improvising and self-play-calling would be like mcnabb times 5 to kyle's dumb@$$ scheme. kyle wouldn't have it, and he'd be benched for *mediocre-to-terrible backup QB that kyle is infatuated with (hell... probably rex grossman again anyway)* even faster than mcnabb got benched.

3) i think the colts will keep manning around for at least 1 or 2 more seasons to mentor luck, even though manning's contract is expensive. luck won't be making sam bradford money thanks to the new wage scale. hell, i could totally see manning retiring in a few years and immediately becoming OC or even HC for the colts before he comes anywhere close to being our QB.

4) even if manning came here, something would go horribly horribly wrong, as it always does in redskin land. also, his contract would prevent us from spending money on real areas that we have need (cough OL, cough)

it's rookie or "young, hungry vet with legit potential" QB time.

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Old 11-16-2011, 08:55 PM
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Manning would be perfect for the Skins. We could trade away 2-3 #1 picks, which makes drafting so much easier, and he would probably play almost as well as McNabb did. That would totally free up my Decembers and Januarys for the next 4 or 5 years.
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Old 11-16-2011, 09:02 PM
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if you got a chance to get Peyton Manning, you sell the farm.
No, you sure don't. If you're going to sell the farm sell it for a guy who might be around for 12 years.
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Old 11-16-2011, 09:12 PM
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Old 11-16-2011, 09:22 PM
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I have always hated the big free agent names but if you got a chance to get Peyton Manning, you sell the farm. End of story.
Please step away from the bar. You don't sell the farm on an injured, 15 year vet.
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Old 11-16-2011, 09:24 PM
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I wonder how these wild scenarios/ideas come up. Common sense is no longer common any more. Are you the one posting this team will go 10-6 a few weeks ago?
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Old 11-16-2011, 09:56 PM
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I'd say Manning is less than 50-50 toward playing again. No use being one of the QB greats and all that money if you can't move your neck or are in constant pain or are paralyzed.

Why would we trade a #1 for a QB who (even if he plays) has between 1-3 years of his career left. Our #1 draft pick can be used to get one of the top 3 QB right out of college. If he's franchise then you've got him for a decade.

We've tried the old, downside of their career QB with McKnabb, Brunell - how did that turn out?

Draft the best QB with our #1 pick and use most of the rest of the draft to build a young, talented OL.
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Old 11-16-2011, 10:11 PM
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Aww come on, really?
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We need to draft a QB in 2012.
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Old 11-16-2011, 10:33 PM
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We need to draft a QB in 2012.
That statement should end this thread.

BTW - as someone who lives in constant heavy back pain [military related] it is no joke. As Peyton looks to the future after three neck injuries (I've had 3 spinal surgeries) the chance of making his future life a living hell of pain, or being paralyzed or a semi-cripple - he will have to decide if one more season is really going to be worth it. He'll end up in Canton, just without the number of SB rings that he wanted.
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skinedip are you dan snyder?
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If the question is who's won the most MVPs, you're right. If the question is should he be the next QB for the Skins, I'm gonna have to ask you to pass whatever it is you're smoking to the left.
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Old 11-16-2011, 11:06 PM
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The only way i would take Manning is if we get Matt Barkley as our first pick and give the colts a 3rd for Manning so he could groom him as the redskins starting qb.
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Old 11-16-2011, 11:26 PM
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skinedip are you dan snyder?
you took the words right out of my mouth

But lets all be honest this team is a long way from being a playoff contender. We need to build thru the draft not go for one shot of glory. Plus even by the chance of Great Cesars Ghost we did get Manning what makes anyone here think he would last one game with our Offensive Line the way it is. Guy comming off 3 neck surgerys + our O-Line = Worst Tradgey in Football history.

Plus I honestly think with the albatros that is Mannings contract the Colts would be more likely to just cut him and go their seperate ways. I cant imagine anyone taking on the 28M option for next year (I might be wrong on the number) I belive the contract was structured in such a way that it allows the Colts to walk way after this season with no penalty. Thats why they havent put him on IR for the season, they want to see him rehab and when able particpate in practive to evaluate him for next year so they can decide what they will do in the draft.

Peace and Hail to the Redskins!!

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