Peyton/Saturday to Skins: Crazy Bram Weinstein rumor

DaveKShape · #1 01-13-2012, 10:51 AM

Here are a couple of tweets from today:

http://twitter.com/Bramweinstein

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Originally Posted by Bram Weinstein Twitter

One of the people who's opinion at ESPN I trust the most says Peyton + Saturday to Redskins is VERY likely.. So, I have to warm up to it
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@BranPart Yes.. Also why I don't believe the Jets rumors.. No way he'd want to be in the same city with Eli for media to compare
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Nothing happens with Peyton until March when deadline for 28 mil comes. Assuming he is free, the discussion I had was Skins go hard
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@JacksonSports I don't think Wash is his first choice, but Shanihan might be his kind of coach. Look at Colts and the difference he makes!
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A lot has to happen including Peyton release. This is no done deal by any stretch, just interesting how much momentum this has.

I still call B.S. on this. We saw what happened when Donovan strayed from Baby Shan's precious system. Manning coming here would pretty much make Kyle obsolete. Manning is many echelons above Kyle when it comes to building a good system. Things are already a mess with the 2 Shanny egos floating about. Adding Manning to that mix turns dynamite into a nuclear weapon. This could all be a moot point anyway, given that he may not even be able to play the game anymore.

As for Saturday, he's past his prime, and Will Montgomery was very decent at center this year. He would bring some good leadership qualities, but that's about it.

Typical Redskins offseason "big name player splash" rumors.

akhhorus · #2 01-13-2012, 10:56 AM

Monty's a UFA also. Dunno, I could see Mike telling kyyle to go back to his Rex Grossman dolls if they got Peyton.

DaveKShape · #3 01-13-2012, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by akhhorus

Monty's a UFA also. Dunno, I could see Mike telling kyyle to go back to his Rex Grossman dolls if they got Peyton.

So you think there's a realistic chance that they go after him? Maybe you should add that to your odds list, haha.

AustinSkin · #4 01-13-2012, 11:18 AM

I'm okay with a healthy Peyton, and Colston/Jeffery/Blackmon added to the WR corps with OL line depth built. Groom Tannehill/Weeden/Foles/Keenum, etc. as a backup.

This is a team that needs serious leadership and a go-for-the throat offensive mindset. If you can't stop us, you will lose badly, and we're not letting down for 60 minutes. This mindset seems to work pretty well for New England, New Orleans and Green Bay. If healthy, Peyton could change the culture of this organization and make it a "refuse to lose" team, instead of becoming deflated and giving up at the first sign of adversity.

I don't know where this puts Kyle, but I'm not sure he knows how to instill a sense of dedication & pride in his offense. Having good talent is one thing. Knowing how to build a team is another.

akhhorus · #5 01-13-2012, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by DaveKShape

So you think there's a realistic chance that they go after him? Maybe you should add that to your odds list, haha.

I think that it shouldn't be immediately discounted. And I'll put it on the board lol.

shally · #6 01-13-2012, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by AustinSkin

I'm okay with a healthy Peyton, and Colston/Jeffery/Blackmon added to the WR corps with OL line depth built. Groom Tannehill/Weeden/Foles/Keenum, etc. as a backup.

This is a team that needs serious leadership and a go-for-the throat offensive mindset. If you can't stop us, you will lose badly, and we're not letting down for 60 minutes. This mindset seems to work pretty well for New England, New Orleans and Green Bay. If healthy, Peyton could change the culture of this organization and make it a "refuse to lose" team, instead of becoming deflated and giving up at the first sign of adversity.

I don't know where this puts Kyle, but I'm not sure he knows how to instill a sense of dedication & pride in his offense. Having good talent is one thing. Knowing how to build a team is another.

that is the key... is he healthy enough to give the team a 2-3 year window to groom someone long term ? if he is, it would be a hell of a signing

think of the press that Eli vs Peyton would get 2 games per year..

shally · #7 01-13-2012, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by akhhorus

I think that it shouldn't be immediately discounted. And I'll put it on the board lol.

Keim has a strong article on signing Flynn

the most interesting comments out of the article were:

Taking half the snaps in preseason and in practice, there was no difference in the scouts observed performance of Rodgers and Flynn.. granted, not for real, but efficiency and accuracy cannot be faked

Accuracy is not dependent upon the quality of the receiver and Flynn was very very accurate

he is the least risky signing of all because all he will cost is money and cap space.. we could build around him

he is very efficient and has fine pocket awareness and mobility

i think we will either sign him immediately in march, or wont consider him at all.. this is an up/down decision by Shanahan

he has "roots" with the Holmgren/Sherman coaching tree so Cleveland could be a strong consideration and Holmgren went to the Packer QB Farm system to get Hasselbeck with tremendous results.. can easily see that happening again

BIGREDSKINSFAN1963 · #8 01-13-2012, 12:06 PM

I Would not have a problem signing peyton,saturday,reggie wayne,and drafting RG III if we could.the reason i added reggie wayne is simply because he is peyton's fave wr and could be another security blanket when peyton is running for his life.i can't think of anybody to learn from better than peyton manning for any young qb.i could see peyton staying on in DC after he retires and being a qb coach or oc too.if they can do all that,and still draft very wisely with olinemen,lbs,and the secondary,and still keep cooley and davis,i'd be ok with it!if they just are gonna sign manning,saturday,and wayne and not give them any support,that would be stupid!

dogfight6 · #9 01-13-2012, 12:08 PM

Hope this is just someone's idea of a joke. Just say no to mannings!

shally · #10 01-13-2012, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by BIGREDSKINSFAN1963

I Would not have a problem signing peyton,saturday,reggie wayne,and drafting RG III if we could.the reason i added reggie wayne is simply because he is peyton's fave wr and could be another security blanket when peyton is running for his life.i can't think of anybody to learn from better than peyton manning for any young qb.i could see peyton staying on in DC after he retires and being a qb coach or oc too.if they can do all that,and still draft very wisely with olinemen,lbs,and the secondary,and still keep cooley and davis,i'd be ok with it!if they just are gonna sign manning,saturday,and wayne and not give them any support,that would be stupid!

i think IF we do sign Peyton, we wont be going after RGIII unless he falls to us..More likely we go after the best LT (Martin ??) we can find to protect the investment

in the second round we go after someone like Foles or Tannehill or Lindley to develop

shally · #11 01-13-2012, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by dogfight6

Hope this is just someone's idea of a joke. Just say no to mannings!

it would be the ultimate snyder free agent signing.. even Haynesworth would be small potatoes compared to this

AustinSkin · #12 01-13-2012, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by shally

that is the key... is he healthy enough to give the team a 2-3 year window to groom someone long term ? if he is, it would be a hell of a signing

think of the press that Eli vs Peyton would get 2 games per year..

2-3 years would be great. But I want an understudy who can get up to speed within 1 year, and be prepared to start, if needed.

Inside my non-football mind, I believe the offensive mindset of any successful team is to have a goal to put a game out of reach by the 4th quarter and get your backup QB in the game as soon as possible. Not to run out the clock, but to run the same plays that gave you the lead. If they can't stop it, too bad. You would learn much more about the potential of your backup QB, and whether he's a keeper or not.

BIGREDSKINSFAN1963 · #13 01-13-2012, 12:22 PM

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i think IF we do sign Peyton, we wont be going after RGIII unless he falls to us

I Agree with you about trading up to get him,in no way should that be done,but if we pick at 6 and he is there,i can't see us passing him up can you?
upshaw from alabama is projected to go to the bills at 10,i could see us taking him at 6th if he's there though.

AustinSkin · #14 01-13-2012, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by shally

i think IF we do sign Peyton, we wont be going after RGIII unless he falls to us..More likely we go after the best LT (Martin ??) we can find to protect the investment

in the second round we go after someone like Foles or Tannehill or Lindley to develop

Shanny will be coaching Weeden in the Senior Bowl. I have a sneaking feeling that Weeden is going to perform well, and Shanny drafts him in the middle rounds.

smoak · #15 01-13-2012, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by shally

that is the key... is he healthy enough to give the team a 2-3 year window to groom someone long term ? if he is, it would be a hell of a signing

think of the press that Eli vs Peyton would get 2 games per year..

No, he won't. If this happens I will be at near an all time low in terms of my *Redskins enthusiasm*.