PFT:skins considering peyton,flynn,orton

[syphy]

This is all smoke and mirrors. The guy(s) that get brought in here probably haven't been named in any of these wide ranging guesses by these writers.

I think it'll be something whacky like Bradford or one of the Houston QBs Leinart or Yates. Perhaps even something more whacky like trading for that Kaepernik(sp?) kid if the 9ers are sticking with Smith long term.

It's Shanahan, everything we're hearing is misdirection.

[shally]

Originally Posted by syphy

This is all smoke and mirrors. The guy(s) that get brought in here probably haven't been named in any of these wide ranging guesses by these writers.

I think it'll be something whacky like Bradford or one of the Houston QBs Leinart or Yates. Perhaps even something more whacky like trading for that Kaepernik(sp?) kid if the 9ers are sticking with Smith long term.

It's Shanahan, everything we're hearing is misdirection.

agree that right now, it is all feints and dis-information.. but one thing is certain, even to the casual observer, and that is that we dont have a starting qb on the roster right now.. that has to be remedied this offseason, and that is what will be done in one form or another

[Gravy]

Originally Posted by syphy

This is all smoke and mirrors. The guy(s) that get brought in here probably haven't been named in any of these wide ranging guesses by these writers.

I think it'll be something whacky like Bradford or one of the Houston QBs Leinart or Yates. Perhaps even something more whacky like trading for that Kaepernik(sp?) kid if the 9ers are sticking with Smith long term.

It's Shanahan, everything we're hearing is misdirection.

Don't forget Drew Brees is a FA. Is March 12 here yet?

[shally]

Originally Posted by Gravy

Don't forget Drew Brees is a FA. Is March 12 here yet?

i dont see ANY way that Brees leaves New Orleans.. worst case scenario is that they tag him

[Gravy]

Originally Posted by shally

i dont see ANY way that Brees leaves New Orleans.. worst case scenario is that they tag him

I don't think he will leave either but...stranger things have happened

[Moe]

Originally Posted by shally

they didnt think a lot about Jerry Rice, either.. not saying he will be the second coming of Rice, but the guy was essentially uncoverable at the college level..
he will be a great pro..i think he is a far better prospect than Julio Jones was

IMO, he's a classic case of a superior athlete dominating inferior competition. He isn't impressivly big, fast or athletic and his route running in that offense wasn't disciplined (almost by design). I think he'll be a productive NFL WR, maybe a very good one, and because there are numerous teams with a need he'll go high but I'd take Julio Jones (and A.J. Green) over him 10 times out of 10. Both are physically superior athletes who produced in more NFL-esque offenses and against much better competition prior to coming out. There's a lot to like about Blackmon and I think he's a safe pick but I don't think his ceiling will be in line with where he's selected.

[akhhorus]

Originally Posted by shally

agree that right now, it is all feints and dis-information.. but one thing is certain, even to the casual observer, and that is that we dont have a starting qb on the roster right now.. that has to be remedied this offseason, and that is what will be done in one form or another

If this was all coming from Schefter, I would agree. He's Shanny's guy and Shanny would use him for leaks. But the Peyton to DC meme is coming from a lot of different sources.

[shally]

Originally Posted by akhhorus

If this was all coming from Schefter, I would agree. He's Shanny's guy and Shanny would use him for leaks. But the Peyton to DC meme is coming from a lot of different sources.

well, Peyton to DC would certainly qualify as obtaining a starting QB (health permitting of course).. but that would still only be a stopgap measure for 2-3 years, tops.. it would have to be paired with a developmental draft QB as well

as much as i would prefer NOT to sign Peyton and go with a draft qb, it would serve the purpose of freeing up the top of the draft for a wideout, or OT.
Getting Peyton, drafting Jefferey, signing Nicks, and using the second rounder for someone like Konz would jet start the offense.. plus, i could easily see someone like Wayne or Garcon being lured to DC by Peyton

use the 4-5th round for Rainey and a second day/third day pick for Cousins/Foles/Osweiler/Harnisch/Keenum/Wilson etc and we could see the Offense transformed in a single offseason

[silverspring]

I continually see the pro-manning crowd writing stipulations "if he is healthy". Everyone continues to ignore the simple fact that Peyton is not healthy. Not only is he not healthy, the type of healing he has to do is the slowest there is.

He will be released the first week of march and free agency begins the week after. No doubt, he will be signed by the end of march. There is no chance in hell he suddenly fully heals in 45 days.

So he isn't healthy and he isn't going to be when the bidding war starts for him. This isn't a secret. So if you are in the bring manning here crowd, you are really just rooting to bring an unhealthy manning here. I can't wait to have redskins park turned upside down for a 36 year old qb whose arm doesn't work like it use to and whose neck is one hit away from another surgery. Yes this will solve all our problems. Go skins!

[akhhorus]

Originally Posted by shally

well, Peyton to DC would certainly qualify as obtaining a starting QB (health permitting of course).. but that would still only be a stopgap measure for 2-3 years, tops.. it would have to be paired with a developmental draft QB as well

as much as i would prefer NOT to sign Peyton and go with a draft qb, it would serve the purpose of freeing up the top of the draft for a wideout, or OT.
Getting Peyton, drafting Jefferey, signing Nicks, and using the second rounder for someone like Konz would jet start the offense.. plus, i could easily see someone like Wayne or Garcon being lured to DC by Peyton

use the 4-5th round for Rainey and a second day/third day pick for Cousins/Foles/Osweiler/Harnisch/Keenum/Wilson etc and we could see the Offense transformed in a single offseason

It only makes sense as a bridge to a Qb of the future. Unfortunately, knowing Shanny's track record, he'll see it as all he has to do to fix the offense as he takes a CB at 6 and a safety in the 2nd.

[FanFromArizona]

I was just watching some ESPN and had the following thought:

TRADE for Peyton using the 5th round pick acquired from the Pats for Haynesworth. It's essentially a sixth round pick.

We did this a few years back for Erasmus James if I recall [a seventh rounder if he made the team]

Once he is acquired and off the market, give him the money that is due but change the roster option to a signing bonus so that it's prorated over 4 years.

Make his contract one that is incentive-laden and low base salary.

If we wait until my birthday[March 8th] there will be a bidding war.

Thoughts?

[BIGREDSKINSFAN1963]

I Think we are more likely to sign manning than we are to take rg 3 unless he is still there at 6,in which case,i could see signing them both.

[akhhorus]

Originally Posted by FanFromArizona

I was just watching some ESPN and had the following thought:

TRADE for Peyton using the 5th round pick acquired from the Pats for Haynesworth. It's essentially a sixth round pick.

We did this a few years back for Erasmus James if I recall [a seventh rounder if he made the team]

Once he is acquired and off the market, give him the money that is due but change the roster option to a signing bonus so that it's prorated over 4 years.

Make his contract one that is incentive-laden and low base salary.

If we wait until my birthday[March 8th] there will be a bidding war.

Thoughts?

If you trade for him, you have to eat that massive option bonus. You can't restructure out of it. He's not going to be dealt barring some surprise.

[smave]

Originally Posted by shally

well, Peyton to DC would certainly qualify as obtaining a starting QB (health permitting of course).. but that would still only be a stopgap measure for 2-3 years, tops.. it would have to be paired with a developmental draft QB as well

as much as i would prefer NOT to sign Peyton and go with a draft qb, it would serve the purpose of freeing up the top of the draft for a wideout, or OT.
Getting Peyton, drafting Jefferey, signing Nicks, and using the second rounder for someone like Konz would jet start the offense.. plus, i could easily see someone like Wayne or Garcon being lured to DC by Peyton

use the 4-5th round for Rainey and a second day/third day pick for Cousins/Foles/Osweiler/Harnisch/Keenum/Wilson etc and we could see the Offense transformed in a single offseason

My thoughts exactly. As long as they get a grooming, future QB later in the draft, I have no problem with it.

Originally Posted by akhhorus

If you trade for him, you have to eat that massive option bonus. You can't restructure out of it. He's not going to be dealt barring some surprise.

Exactly.

[shally]

Originally Posted by akhhorus

If you trade for him, you have to eat that massive option bonus. You can't restructure out of it. He's not going to be dealt barring some surprise.

agree.. since he is already sending out public messages that he would be willing to do a heavily incentive laden contract for another team